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Your choice is Android, not sideload in iOS.

"No sideload" is our choice and our top reason buying iOS.

This is the only way to force big names from hajacking your phone. They will force you to sideload their app if it's an option.
Actually, no, they won’t “force” me to do anything. If, for example, Facebook requires me to sideload their apps on iOS for dubious reasons, I am free to refuse to do so and either use the web version or stop using their services altogether.
 
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Capitalism, baby. Apple’s App Store practices are anti-competitive.

Consumers should be informed of the security risks, and left to their own devices (literally). Consumers should be allowed to use their devices as they see fit without the device manufacturer imposing restrictions.
Consumers are left to their own devices, literally, right now. You are free to buy an Android device or an Apple device based on your own personal preferences in regards to whether you prioritize privacy and security or openness. Forcing Apple to become Android isn’t giving customers choice, it’s taking away customers choice. This isn’t hard to understand.
 
The minute Tim Cook figures a way to make more money selling your data then keeping it private is the minute he will begin selling it and he probably has much more collected information about any iPhone user than Google or Facebook do.

As soon as Tim Cook figures out a way? Wow, the thinkless posting of you anti Apple people is to be admired for the comedy (fortunately that includes a group of several who clicked your post with like). Now you all could stop to consider you actually cheered the idea that the head of a huge corporation hasn't figured out the incredible secret of selling advertising. You all actually ran with that belief. That's just embarrassing.
Shockingnews!! for the anti Apple unhinged, Tim Cook knows how to monetize personal data. So does the head of Microsoft, Samsung, HP, Sony, a vast collection of large cap, mid cap, small cap, and all kinds of mid to small private businesses -- along with anyone who can take 5 minutes on the Internet to read. Tim Cook even spoke publicly on the subject of monetizing personal data. Yea, it's a real real tough one to figure how to sell advertising using mined user metadata. I'm sure only Google and Facebook (a.k.a. the dwellings of the anti Apple unhinged) has cracked the intricate code of advertising (and those two have sure cracked that code - the 2 biggest advertisers in the world).

I suggest you all get together to form a think tank.
 
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You misunderstand me. If the developer is not verified and its app is not signed, it is already hard on macOS to get the app on your system.
Well, this is true, but do avoid conflating signed apps with verified developers. You can sign up for an Apple Developer Program individual membership and get through — with the ability to sign apps for Mac distribution outside the App Store — with essentially no actual identity verification.

For businesses, a Dun & Bradstreet D-U-N-S Number is required. That’s pretty toothless in practice. You get a phone call from some Dun & Bradstreet employee and they ask you some questions about your business as “verification”; they do not require documentation, so you can say whatever you’d like, especially if you’re just looking to scam people for a quick buck.

Apple certainly needs to build out its identity verification infrastructure for developers, regardless of whether they’re forced to allow sideloading of iOS apps.
 
At 21 she got a top position in politics. She must be connected from birth. It gets worse after the quote.
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She studied at the University of Copenhagen, graduating in 1993 with a degree in Economics.[15] Vestager speaks Danish, English and some French.[12]

Political career[edit]​

Vestager has been a professional politician since the age of 21, when she was appointed to the central board and executive committee of the SLP and its European Affairs Committee, and shortly afterwards as National Chairwoman of the Party.'

Someone should check her finances, because her attitude to this indicates that a 3rd party is putting up cash for the position she is taking. If you want to see the driving forces behind these decisions always follow the money. It is very rare for any politician to do something because it is the right thing to do.
 
Says they guy who cant figure out parental controls.
LoL Apple parental control is a joke and just serves to limit a toddler, it's buggy and unreliable, there are several ways to bypass it. E.g. by doing multiple device restarts disconnected from internet, till it screen time freaks out and stops working, one day it remained stopped even with internet reenabled. Once a iOS update broke it, too.

But then I realized i was becoming like Apple, just at a smaller scale, locking down and doing security by obscurity, etc., then I tried the "educate my kids" mode, works better than this screen time shizzle, now they are 15ys and 20ys old, all fine.
 
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Someone should check her finances, because her attitude to this indicates that a 3rd party is putting up cash for the position she is taking. If you want to see the driving forces behind these decisions always follow the money. It is very rare for any politician to do something because it is the right thing to do.

100 times up vote the first item and 100 times up vote the second item (though I’d term the second item “exceedingly” rare).

One of the mystifying aspects of the significant majority of voters is their penchant to routinely re-elect lifetime politicians while also holding the firm belief “it would be best if there was change”. So it’s no mystery to see a lifetime politician bellowing loudly on about Apple (and who ever else — Google, and Amazon, and Facebook — how Microsoft hasn’t been caught up in this is probably another case of follow the money). This is the way a lifetime politician gets bigger campaign coffers and a bigger/better political office. Sure, they are clueless on most subjects outside political science. Sure, they are driven by the weight of their coffers. Sure, they are a shoe in for re-election. Sure, it’s not good to keep re-electing them over and over
 
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Governments seem to be under a lot of pressure to legislate iOS to be like Android but with no concessions to Apple’s strong privacy/security features. The result will be both bad law and bad product. And in lawmakers’ ignorant fantasies, the consumer will somehow benefit from this, even though it’s not what they want.
 
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If forks (side loading or alternate stores) are forced then many apps will leave the App Store and force side loading. Mainly the unscrupulous ones - social media and template games come to mind. The ones that will no longer have any barriers to scanning your device for any and all information. And if your phone has information about me then my privacy and security are impacted regardless of my utensils settings.

You're right! Something like that would happen, and it would be fantastic! People don't bother sifting through the millions of apps in the app store, because it's 99.99% garbage that you've described.

Add in other means of installing apps, and suddenly it becomes far easier to manage finding the good stuff.

I suspect you're wrong and that the iOS App Store is actually where all the garbage remains - the good stuff all moves to GitHub and other websites that explicitly exist to support developers making quality apps (vs the iOS App Store which exists to benefit Apple at everyone else's expense.)
 
If User A is protected and User B is unprotected and User B's devices include shared data about User A. User A's personal data is now compromised.

Even in the simplest form: contact details, social media accounts, birthday, location, spouse, pets name etc ...but compromised nonetheless and those details could be used for malicious intent e.g. to try and gain access to services or accounts.

A politician, without a degree in cyber security has no place making statements like this.
Tell that to LinkedIn. 😖
 
“the potential is there”

case close

LMAO!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Asteroid could possiblly maybe hit London!
The “potential“ is there. :rolleyes:

Tell that to all the data harvesting and other unprivate apps in the App Store.
Tell that to all the users who have had their data stolen (hacked) while using Apple approved apps.
Tell Apple to verify the privacy claims on the apps.

Sorry but trying to use the “chicken little” excuse assumes all App Store users lack common sense and will load something bad.
 
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and you wonder why phishing is so successful?
No, I actually don’t wonder about that tbh, and I get your sarcasm…
And the fact that you cannot run a Windows computer without anti virus is a sad state of affair too… but thinking that you can educate billions of phone users to become smart about sideloading is the biggest joke of all, out of this world dreaming…
The vast majority of smartphone users treat their device as an “appliance” and they should be able to do that …
This whole “consumer choice” thing in this context just does not make sense
 
No, I actually don’t wonder about that tbh, and I get your sarcasm…
And the fact that you cannot run a Windows computer without anti virus is a sad state of affair too… but thinking that you can educate billions of phone users to become smart about sideloading is the biggest joke of all, out of this world dreaming…
The vast majority of smartphone users treat their device as an “appliance” and they should be able to do that …
This whole “consumer choice” thing in this context just does not make sense

Chuckle. True.
I find myself at an impasse but not in agreement with most arguments I see here. Use both iOS and Android (yes I side load - some great apps to be gotten that way!) and have no real issue with either. I do believe the option should exist even if I suspect many would not use it.
 
You're right! Something like that would happen, and it would be fantastic! People don't bother sifting through the millions of apps in the app store, because it's 99.99% garbage that you've described.

Add in other means of installing apps, and suddenly it becomes far easier to manage finding the good stuff.

I suspect you're wrong and that the iOS App Store is actually where all the garbage remains - the good stuff all moves to GitHub and other websites that explicitly exist to support developers making quality apps (vs the iOS App Store which exists to benefit Apple at everyone else's expense.)

The good stuff for you is right over there ----> at the Play Store and the Internet. See how that works?

Here's a deal you can't pass up. What we, Apple users, decide is best for us will be decided by us. What you, and Android users, decide is best for you will be decided by you. The one caveat, which is already axiomatic, what you think is garbage for iOS apps matters precisely (well rounded to the nearest billionths) is zero.
 
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No, I actually don’t wonder about that tbh, and I get your sarcasm…
And the fact that you cannot run a Windows computer without anti virus is a sad state of affair too… but thinking that you can educate billions of phone users to become smart about sideloading is the biggest joke of all, out of this world dreaming…
The vast majority of smartphone users treat their device as an “appliance” and they should be able to do that …
This whole “consumer choice” thing in this context just does not make sense

Oh it makes sense but the sense has nothing to do with choice.
 
The good stuff for you is right over there ----> at the Play Store and the Internet. See how that works?

Here's a deal you can't pass up. What we, Apple users, decide is best for us will be decided by us. What you, and Android users, decide is best for you will be decided by you. The one caveat, which is already axiomatic, what you think is garbage for iOS apps matters precisely (well rounded to the nearest billionths) is zero.
Nothing less than a most uneducated cowards reply. How do you find food? Have you not read that even to-date a number of iOS apps continue to steal and share data, more than just the clipboard.. I pitty users like you.
 
Someone should check her finances, because her attitude to this indicates that a 3rd party is putting up cash for the position she is taking. If you want to see the driving forces behind these decisions always follow the money. It is very rare for any politician to do something because it is the right thing to do.

Most hilarious comment I have seen all day. Look into her political position. The woman is unbribable - unlike someone else who recently lived in a big white house.
 
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