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EU Competition Chief Tells Apple Not to Use Privacy as a Shield Against Competition
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Wait, a politician/bureaucrat trying to maintain their power or expand it? Come on, that can't be.
They are within the law so...let's change the law! And: we won't allow you to use 'reason' or 'logic' in our charges against you.....hmmmm...reminds me of ...the Old Soviet System! Makes sense for an unelected 'rep' to think in such a manner. But really: ALL of this is REALLY coming from the intermingled 'intelligence ' Services of the Western governments. Everything else is a red herring .....
In ongoing antitrust discussions about App Store competition, Apple has maintained that allowing users to install apps outside of the App Store would have dire privacy consequences, but European Union digital competition chief Margrethe Vestager said today that Apple must not use privacy excuses to limit competition.
In an interview with Reuters, Vestager said that privacy and security are of "paramount importance," but she does not believe that customers would be sacrificing security when sideloading an app.
Vestager has been working on the Digital Markets Act in Europe, which would require Apple to let iPhone and iPad users download apps from third-party App Stores or from the internet. Apple CEO Tim Cook said in June that the proposed rules around sideloading apps would destroy the security of the iPhone and the privacy initiatives that have been built into the App Store.
On the topic of the DMA, Vestager said that she is open to changes, and that she believes it is possible to "find solutions," but it is likely that Apple will continue to fight heavily against alternate app stores or sideloading apps.
Vestager also said that she supports Apple's recent App Tracking Transparency privacy changes and has no issue with the functionality because it's an option available to everyone.
Should the Digital Markets Act go on to become law, Apple will have to make major changes to its iPhone and iPad platform to accommodate the requirement to allow for non-App Store apps. Apple is also facing similar legislation in the United States, with U.S. House lawmakers in June introducing antitrust bills that would result in major changes to the tech industry if passed.
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You are right, I don't think it has happened to bypass data mining security. They don't need to, data mining os already all built into the platform for them. "Google" Play store is operated by the biggest corporate data miner, Google, on the planet. And fyi, that is a fact that is public information.
This is a tough situation in my opinion. By allowing other app stores which might have security risks to the phone and eco-system, any issue will be considered Apple's fault. This could create a change in imagine that damages the reputation of the brand and resulting in a drop in sales.
To an average consumer, they will always blame the manufacturer for anything that's wrong with the phone from an app point of view.
Privacy angle shouldn't matter if Apple can lock it down from the OS level.
To an average consumer, they will always blame the manufacturer for anything that's wrong with the phone from an app point of view.
Privacy angle shouldn't matter if Apple can lock it down from the OS level.
Once these 'life-time serving' and unelected 'Appratiniks' get involved they will, as usual, do much more harm than good. Should be concerned with feeding people etc. NOTE:NONE of them are talking about breaking up anything dealing with the Health Care Monopoly. Or Banking. Or Media....very telling.Apple is trying to protect it's consumers data... Not sure what is wrong with that.
Look what happened to ruthless Facebook.
PRIVACY will always be Apple's number one PRIORITY, No matter what happens. It in one of the main core values.
Find another excuse Chief! Perhaps, review this webpage/report that might help you not to go after our human rights, over this long 4th of July weekend
Privacy
Apple products, including Apple Intelligence, are designed to protect your privacy, because privacy is a fundamental human right.www.apple.com
10 Years ago... Steve jobs thoughts on privacy. iPhone 4 days...
You are almost there....MI5/CIA/NSA etc . will OF Course create their own 'stores'....That is the point!
People wanting to side load aps on iPhone already have a choice: Jailbreak your iPhone, it’s super easy. Or choose Android. Politicians are after total access to all data everywhere, and a lot of people on here are rooting for them! Shame on you guys.
They’ll also have the option of selling on that stores and not giving apple the 30% (or 15%, I think they changed that).
Except when major in-demand apps decide to pull from the App Store. macOS already shows plenty of examples of this. Fortnite showed us this on Android. And what happened? Plenty of average users and children mistakenly downloaded fake Fortnite APKs.
Its easy to say it would be the users choice whether or not to side load apps. The real world is much more nuanced than that however, and it’s not so cut and dry.
There is no chance given, fyi. The hardware and software manufacturer says they don't think it is in keeping with their offering of greater security. So they don't offer it, so it's not any chance, so you have the choice to go elsewhere. See you're right, choice isn't evil. Apple has its choice to decide its products. Customers have the choice to buy it or not but specifically you of the odd sense of entitlement have the choice for the other platform. Please exercise it over at Android and the Google Play Store (which very likely you already are).
"Idiots"? Sadly the irony is lost on you using that term here. Someone who comes to an Apple fan board to demand Apple change their products, something you don't use, a product that has a higher CS than yours, regarding a company they hate. Many would argue the very definition of idiotic is spending time on the fan site of a company you hate as well as arguing choice is your domain, not mine and other satisfied Apple users, certainly not Apple itself having choice.
Good luck with that...
Yeah, jailbreaking an iPhone is most certainly something that anyone with ZERO technical knowledge can easily accomplish. Puh-leez....
Plus, it voids the warranty, yes? And the jailbreak gets broken by an OS update?
Or Apple will just pull all of their devices out of the EU while the rest of the world gets to enjoy Apple’s products.
When will people in the UK learn that heavy regulation over everything is not the way to live?
When will people in the UK learn that heavy regulation over everything is not the way to live?
Or staggering and frightening debt being accumulated by many of the governments of the world, or inflation that is diluting all of our(working class) modest savings. Those subjects aren't currently being bandied about by their counterparts in the corporate media.
Much like a cat, once the media attention catnip ball moves elsewhere so will the rhetoric of empty suits of politics and bureaucracy.
"I think customers will not give up neither security nor privacy if they use another app store or if they sideload."
I'm sure their technical consultants from Facebook told them that, because it's obviously hogwash.
I'm sure their technical consultants from Facebook told them that, because it's obviously hogwash.
And who creates the API? Apple should get a cut.
There are many concerns beyond "consumer rights".
Think about this scenario:
- Consumer "chooses" to use some fancy new "app store" that's all over social media.
- They install a non-vetted app onto their iPhone.
- Every keystroke gets logged and sent back to malicious third-parties.
- User's banking info is compromised.
- User blames Apple for ruining their life.
Apple's approach is an "evolution" of the Windows "way of life" by being a strict gatekeeper. We all benefit because of it, even if there's a perception of reduced rights.
Absolutely right. Choice already exists, today.
I choose the simpler, cleaner, safer and more reliable option. iOS.
I don't think I'm "pro side-loading" but hypothetically, isn't there room here for compromise? Where Apps operate in a sandbox that has limited access to the core device features and functionality unless the App is signed? Doesn't Apple already do this for MacOS so what is there to stop them doing something similar for iOS to shut everyone up for a bit?
I don’t know why all these Americans even share their pointless opinion on what the EU should and shouldn’t do?
No one asks for the US "golden cage" AppStore to be opened up to competition! Give Europeans the option to side load apps from anywhere and we won’t have to force you with a giant fine - the likes the world has never seen before.
No one asks for the US "golden cage" AppStore to be opened up to competition! Give Europeans the option to side load apps from anywhere and we won’t have to force you with a giant fine - the likes the world has never seen before.
you are quite narrow minded ... did it occur to you that there might be people from the EU participating?
_LOL_ As if we would allow them to sell their anti-competitive **** in Europe. I don’t mind typing a line into Terminal to disable Gatekeeper. It’s an expert feature for people who know what they’re doing, but take that option away and you can keep your stinking Macs. If Apple wants to convince me that an iPad is a real computer, the AppStore monopoly must fall.
It’s very obvious that those who insist the government must not interfere were raised under US ideology.
If side-loading apps is important to you, then switch to Android. Maybe Apple releasing the Android iMessage app makes that more palatable from a PR perspective, dunno, but I doubt that there are many people that can't see fit to escape the embrace of iMessage that actually care about side-loading apps in the first place. I use Android daily and the only side-loading I do is for work, but IOS has Testflight and ADEP.
Sorry it does not work that way. Right now, companies that want to make apps for iOS/iPadOS/tvOS/WatchOS need to go through the App Store and so they do. They therefore support all apples privacy and tracking rules, not because they want to, but because they have not choice. Once they are not forced to do that, they will begin to stop supporting the App Store, just as many developers do on macOS. If an app one needs (including from one’s company or government) is only available outside the App Store one will have no choice.
Right now, Apple protects me from that. In a world where they do not have that control, they will not be able to protect me.
I'm not sure I've seen a more clear example of tech Stockholm Syndrome.