This is a really great point.
Apple has really shot themselves in the foot by being so ridiculous and petty, so often, and your example is a great one.
They are accomplishing nothing there but highlighting just how extreme they are willing to be.
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This is a really great point.
Apple has really shot themselves in the foot by being so ridiculous and petty, so often, and your example is a great one.
They are accomplishing nothing there but highlighting just how extreme they are willing to be.
It is indeed.
But Apple prefers the "sneakily harging through the proverbial back door" of commissions, licensing fees, developer fees and accessories that are
- hiding the true costs from the user
- preying on the most vulnerable developers (that offer digital content/services that can't be feasibly served as web apps)
- monopolising certain markets (when it suits Apple and they deem it profitable enough).
This was government access to data.In case you haven't heard :
Apple Fights UK's Demand for iCloud Data Backdoor
Apple today filed a legal complaint with the UK's Investigatory Powers Tribunal in an attempt to quash the UK government's demand for...www.macrumors.com
As opposed to Apple scanning data themselves on-device and then merely forwarding it.
Yes, the U.S. pushed the British to withdraw their demand on national security grounds.
Apple is not a charity. When they give us those nice features for "free", it usually means that they think they will profit down the line from secondary effects. It would be more honest and healthier for competition to actually put a price tag on many of those things.
Not going down this rabbit hole with you again. They are paying what’s requested of them by the owner of the property they’re using.
Just because someone at the restaurant got a comped meal doesn’t entitle you to skip out on paying your bill.
Uber, Lift, DoorDash, banking apps, eBay, even Amazon (their store app) pay less than they use.
While others, i.e. Epic, Spotify, Netflix are punished not to market to users of their apps - unless they pay 30% commission to cross-subsidise the freeloaders.
Apple certainly takes no problem with "freeloaders" - as long as it helps them sell iPhones and monopolise the app market.
I prefer higher prices for resources I use (e.g. app downloads and updates), rather than being charging more "through the back door" in hidden fees and commissions.
...and if said restaurant owners controls the supply of food to millions of consumers with high barriers to switch, I support the government forcing them 1) to compete and 2) to have non-discriminatory pricing and conditions.
That's it.
If Apple had the market power of an individual restaurant owner, I'd absolutely agree with you and demand government get the hell out of regulating their prices, terms and conditions (except food safety).
The debate comes out again and again. EU's policies are in essence a protectionist law to foster EU growth in areas where it has been sorely lacking or was beaten by US and Chinese companies (smartphones and electronics in general). The same happened to Japan in this regard.
It is the same logic that drives tariffs in India for foreign manufactured electronics, in the US for, well, something today, something else tomorrow (checks, ok, now also drugs (legal ones) and furniture it seems, as of the day of writing this post. Tomorrow? Who knows).
It seems everyone wants to protect some part of the economy where they are weak, or wish they were stronger. I think it is the wrong approach but everyone seems to be willing to go down that road. So, to all US friends here, we are the same, everywhere. Sometimes cars get tariffed in the US, sometimes Netflix or iCould get tariffed in the EU (figuratively, but I hope you get the point). Globalization is dying. I, for one, don't think it is necessarily a bad thing overall. I just wish it didn't come at the expenses of the middle class.
don't hate the player (EU, US) hate the game everyone's playing. China, India, US, EU and all others.
It is the same logic that drives tariffs in India for foreign manufactured electronics, in the US for, well, something today, something else tomorrow (checks, ok, now also drugs (legal ones) and furniture it seems, as of the day of writing this post. Tomorrow? Who knows).
It seems everyone wants to protect some part of the economy where they are weak, or wish they were stronger. I think it is the wrong approach but everyone seems to be willing to go down that road. So, to all US friends here, we are the same, everywhere. Sometimes cars get tariffed in the US, sometimes Netflix or iCould get tariffed in the EU (figuratively, but I hope you get the point). Globalization is dying. I, for one, don't think it is necessarily a bad thing overall. I just wish it didn't come at the expenses of the middle class.
don't hate the player (EU, US) hate the game everyone's playing. China, India, US, EU and all others.
Doesn't this prove the point though? An enclosed system like iOS is like everyone having passed their driving test, knowing the laws and having been verified by the government that they are on some level safe to use the roads. A completely open system is like everyone just being able to buy a car, drive as they like and there being no state laws to follow.
Sure, the version with more 'order' is still chaotic at times and has thousands of tragic accidents per year. But you can at least trust everyone has the same basic level of training. The opposite of that is complete anarchy where the accident numbers would be much, much higher.
It doesn't help that all the most innovative companies in the EU/UK were all bought by and promptly ran into the ground by US companies. The EU should never have allowed things like Microsoft buying Nokia or Softbank buying ARM
If they are unelected, why do I have to go and vote for who should represent my area on a regular basis?
Their own. It's been rumoured for years and it would be the second most utilized search engine within months of launch.
Remember how terrible Apple Maps was during launch? Now it's second only to Google Maps in terms of accuracy, information, and reliability.
On a side note, I'm trying out Kagi.
They would need to withdraw from Brazil, South Korea, Japan, India, Australia, and more soon as they all are making Apple open up their platforms to outside parties.
"Withdraw from Earth!"
It turns out too many humans aren't OK with Apple business practices and nothing is more important than the divine MegaCorp getting its way.
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In an alternative universe: Apple would
1. Not do aggressive tax planning in Ireland
2. Have Apps store fees that are reasonable (30% is taken from the thin air)
3. work together with EU (or rather EC) to develop a DMA to meet EU concerns
I my opinion Apple has mismanaged EU interactions and lobbying for decades. Embarrassing that daddy Don needs to protect a $3T company.
1. Not do aggressive tax planning in Ireland
2. Have Apps store fees that are reasonable (30% is taken from the thin air)
3. work together with EU (or rather EC) to develop a DMA to meet EU concerns
I my opinion Apple has mismanaged EU interactions and lobbying for decades. Embarrassing that daddy Don needs to protect a $3T company.
Its laughable that a trillion dollar company trying to tell a government that it has to repeal a law that has pro-consumer aspects
Its supposed to stop big business from abusing the market power and here's apple trying to use its market power to tell a government entity it needs to repeal it
Its supposed to stop big business from abusing the market power and here's apple trying to use its market power to tell a government entity it needs to repeal it
Because the EU enables other entities or people to bad-mouth the Union and face no consequences
More than welcome, but I laughed because your whole message doesn't make any sense. The real astroturfing, namely, is happening in your own reply that is just looking for ways to praise to the Apple-church. It commences from a non-existing EU AI, and then follows on short sighted assumptions that only large-corp can pressure governments. Governments fall and rise by its population. Collective pressure can help, whether that is a collective of unhappy citizens protesting, or a collective of actually concerned businesses.
I also want to point out Apple is only concerned about their cashflows, based on their forced idea that their devices should only work properly with their other devices. Don't forget that Apple does not shy away from scanning your pictures, and it only backed off when users united to complain about it.
In another post, I pointed out the two sides of the EU. And we should be very concerned about the constant whish for states to invade our privacy. Apple is not our saviour, it might complain, but in the end it will comply. See China. That is why we should vote nationally and in the EU for parties that defend democracy and privacy, cause they go hand in hand. Apple, one way or another, just wants a large as possible piece of the pie.
Now that you remind me the removal of permanent everyone airdrop, it is quite odd and peculiar to intentionally ignore what Apple did in order to bend to China, while yelling whining and blaming EU for trying to build the world for most people, not for robots, not for billionaires and trillionaires.
Mind-blowing and mind-boggling at the same time.
“Cough” American healthcare “cough”
If such “socialist corruption” brings massive quality of life improvement, then I’m onboard.
You can’t run mass surveillance while also protecting user data from being siphoned by foreign companies. The only way to prevent data from going out is to never generate it in the first place.
And dare I say Apple is among one of those control freaks out there. If they had the opportunity to control every single person on the planet, they will.
This is such a reductive take that it is lying by ommision. Live Translation is a feature that works with tight integration between the phone and the headphones. When Apple develops a feature, how it works is extremely important to Apple. And they've designed the Airpods Pro chips and feature set to provide as good a product as possible with live translation. Forcing Apple to accommodate any $10 set of bluetooth headphones to have this same feature would degrade the feature in such a way for many users who would then blame Apple for subpar performance.
Do you really not understand the technical and qualitative nature of this? Or are you just throwing out arguments for the sake of it?
Yes. That's the definition of a business. Not hard to understand.