I agree totally. Apple should definitely pull out of the EU right after they pull out of China. Oh wait....
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EU Officially Objects to Apple Limiting Third-Party Access to Apple Pay NFC Capabilities
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if this is a sticking point for anyone, buy an android. What’s being defended is the right for a company to put out a product they control…not the government.
No, EU first, then the US, then China, South Korea, Japan, Australia and Canada. After they pulled out there, smaller countries are next.
When I punched this topic into my news search, I also ran into this from a couple of weeks back.
www.mindinventory.com
Maybe if Apple was actually working on something instead of claiming the old "security" ploy they would not be subject to this?
Google Announced The Integration of Android Pay with Mobile Banking Apps
Google announced the Android Pay Integration with mobile banking apps that will help Android users to simplify their complex payment methods in a more secure way.
www.mindinventory.com
Maybe if Apple was actually working on something instead of claiming the old "security" ploy they would not be subject to this?
That is some word salad to basically agree with me that Android security is extremely weak and while iPhone is not perfect it is FAR better.
What the EU are proposing is akin to demanding that because I built-up my own successful business with a shop that I open up that shop and my POST to competitors who then get to use it for free rather than create/use their own.
That is with respect just madness and stupidity masquerading as defending consumer rights who are not the ones demanding this move happens.
The banks and others with a financial motive are the ones demanding the move occur, so therefore far too biased.
No one is making you use iPhone..switch to Android already to use the NFC if it’s such a hinderance, we all know Apple takes its sweet time when deploying any technologies to their devices. Android came out with the iris scan and face unlock ages ago and Apple still hasn’t gotten the iris scan on their phones. So you know it’s going to take time, sometimes a long time or never, so complaining it is pointless, just switch already.
Yeah yeah, I fumbled that one. Ment speed… SPEED.. ITS UNCAPPED OF COURSE. iDiot
I am able to use the NFC to authenticate my electric car charging using the charge point+ card in my apple wallet. So, iPhone is routing the NFC authentication to the ChargePoint card in my apple wallet.
Apple simply did not change its business model. only a 3 year old doesn‘t notice. Everything Apple did the last years was proprietary - Metal, M1-M2 (you might call them ARM, but with a ton of proprietary extensions, GPU not documented, nothign documented).
It is Tims way to generate money. I laughed when I heard why Ive left the company - Tim turned Apple into a completely different company.
Has anyone actually said that they're against third-party NFC payments? Or have they just said that they're against forcing Apple to allow third-party NFC payments.
I don't see the advantage of third-party NFC payments as a consumer, but I can see the advantage for large corporations. Personally, I'd rather have all my cards in one place and easily accessible.
And how exactly is the EU doing that with an open high level NFC API?
Apple has a program that allows the use of NFC for unlocking doors. The issue is Apple has been very slow about working with organizations to roll this out. Sure, the organizations need to get on board too, but the fact that it's been a feature for so long and isn't common suggests that Apple needs some help getting the feature adopted.
That is one of the biggest gripes on this and other subjects like this. Apple claims "security risk" then declines to explain how it actually does this. All headline with very little substance has been Apple modus operandi. aka Marketing.
"but but but ..." They do it TOO!
All app stores have issues.
So bloody tired of finger pointing 101.
Okay, I'll try you.
Can you explain how this would be a "security nightmare"? Nobody else is including Apple.
Too simple. The EU protects EU industries. They craft lots of regulations that protect EU businesses. All those same things happen in the US in different industries. The “people” are also much much much weaker in the EU than in the US and so regulators have powers in the EU they can only dream of in the US with even less accountability to voters. In the US many people own stocks and so have a greater appreciation for the benefits of freer markets that allow competition. Anyway …nothing is ever as simple as we think it is and we can find industries where the US is “protecting consumers” to death while the EU is a free market paradise “prioritizing profits”.Basically in a US vs EU comparison. In the US, regulations are in place to make sure companies get protection against revenue loss and “unfair” competition. In the EU, regulations are in place to enable open competition so consumers get better (more correct) price.
So it’s company revenue vs price to consumer.
It’s an ideological difference. The EU does the utmost so no company can corner a market amd dictate the price. This ALSO makes the competition market fair for everyone. Even playing field.
Just look at the mobile phone and broadband market.
I pay the equivalent of 20$ per month for 300Mbps (edited from GB, sorry my bad) fiber internet.
I pay 30$ for unlimited everything mobile 5G, no speed restrictions up to…think it’s 300GB a month, then it drops to 5 Mbps but unlimited data amount at that speed.
I won’t even compare cable tv prices
EXACTLY!
How is Apple building a payment system with their rules different form, say, Visa? I mean, if you don't like Visa's terms or CEO, you can use AmEx or Discover or others. Literally no one is forcing anyone to use Apple or Visa or AmEx or Discover or... And I am certain the Googles of the world are developing the exact same thing for their ecosystems. Just wait.
Sure, that is the best solution all around! Everyone, get rid of your iPhones. ?
Or Apple could open up its system just a little to allow some internal competition and alternatives.
except, if I am paying at an NFC terminal with an iPhone, I don't have the option to use another payment method, it's Apple Pay or the highway, so to speak. I would probably stick with Apple Pay but I can understand why others want some alternatives.