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EU Planning to Force Apple to Give Developers Access to All Hardware and Software Features
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This hasn't occurred with Android, why do you think iOS will be different?
Honestly, they won't need to. The threat of leaving will be enough. I guarantee it.
There's no way 300 million people will sit back, look at their iPhone that they currently like and enjoy as it is and how overblown the EU's concern is, and not be furious when they realize that there's no reason the EU needs to do anything at all. There will be a public outcry to put a stop to the EU tyranny to make sure Apple can stay.
You have no idea how politician do their job.
They could care less of people bitching about something, they follow their agenda.
Europe is not the democracy people think it is!
Reality: if you work for a company that provides you with a phone and a computer, that company is going to lock down software installations. You will be limited to downloading company approved apps that are available through a company controlled portal of some type. They do that because they can't afford to make assumptions about employees not doing dumb things with their phone/computer.
Apple needs to step up its advertising on this topic and explain the benefits of a controlled platform and marketplace.
Apple is losing the lobby wars in the halls of legislatures everywhere, it needs to appeal directly to its customers (ads, and forms that make it easy to identify one’s Rep, fill in and send) and ask them to dissuade their representatives from taking these actions.
Apple is losing the lobby wars in the halls of legislatures everywhere, it needs to appeal directly to its customers (ads, and forms that make it easy to identify one’s Rep, fill in and send) and ask them to dissuade their representatives from taking these actions.
Don't underestimate them. Llook who they keep putting in office to come up with stupid stuff like this...
So you're saying it's better to have a larger government that launders taxpayers money into the pockets of its mates? ? I get Brexit is a mess right now, but so is the EU. At least Brexit can be straightened out with a few smart people that aren't in it just for themselves.
Exactly this. The EU doesn't get competition though. They fail to see how competition helps innovation. They're stuck in a centuries old system where there was a ruler that told you what you needed to do and how to do it. Sadly the States is quickly starting to follow and look where that's leading us.
So then you can see where the American way of different corporations offer different products is better. If you want 'X' services you purchase 'X' product, if you want 'Y' services you purchase 'Y' product. The EU way of doing things offers no benefit to anyone. The EU's "product" is regulation. Who wants that?
Allow access to hardware and all APIs, the cross-app data leeching will be phenomenal. This show will be an interesting drama to watch unfold. The EU does not disappoint when it comes to wild calls, constantly one-upping itself.
I guess Apple also has a choice to either do business in the EU following all the regulations or leave. I'm sure nobody in the EU guaranteed Apple that they will not change their laws if they set up their business in the EU. They should have foreseen this and should have been more open rather than being haughty and greedy.
This. Yes. Probably the only way to go about trying to change this without over-reacting.
From an emotional / principal standpoint, part of me does want Apple to tell the EU to suck it, and "bail out." But that's simply not a reality....even as the word "over-reach" is now a huge understatement in this situation. And if it even were a possibility, what would that say to the customer? Abandonment maybe? Wouldn't go well. It's like when a country makes a colony dependent on them, then leaves overnight.
Side Note: While it's ridiculous the notion of just "leaving the EU", the demands of this legislation are so ridiculous that It could be interpreted as an implied threat: Do what we say, or get out. Equally stupid, but that seems to be the approach they are taking. It's one thing to try and have a standard charging system, (HA! looks like USB-C will eventually come to IPhone anyway) but a completely different thing to basically say.....share all of your secrets, because we said so. Pfffft. Eff off.
But contacting the customer base and saying something like referred to above....thats key. The EU won't listen to big tech, but they would listen to the demands of enough of their own citizens complaining, if they are truly on the side of the consumer.
It’s a globally wealthy market of over 500M people, somehow I doubt Apple is just going to leave - especially over some things that were likely in their roadmap years ago anyway. Remember when Apple introduced iMessage and talked Android integration? iMessage seems to have been intended to be a more open chat platform than it became, and if Apple actually had opened it up they wouldny be facing legislation about it now.
LOL. What you describe will not happen. You are also making the assumption that people's opinion will favour Apple...
Apple favours profits over local laws, as Apple have demonstrated so many times, so Apple aren't going to leave the EU and had over the smartphone market to Android, there's too much $$$ involved.
It's a trade war, effectively.
Time for the US to start regulating European companies – or just cut some big European companies off from the US market altogether. Let's "gatekeep" both ways.
I doubt Apple has the guts to do it. Look at how it folded in China and Russia. You seem to think Apple will stick to its principles and forego revenue, but its principles are for getting revenue and it would rather forego its principles than revenue. We have seen plenty to support this.
While I am not a fan of Apple's nanny bullying, fake restrictions for its private agenda, distaste for small developers, and "my way or the highway" attitude, this is overreach.
No doubt overreach caused by Apple's attitude and policies, but overreach none-the-less. I hope Apple sees the handwriting on the wall and makes some changes, but in the end I hope this fails. It is never good to let the government run anything.
No doubt overreach caused by Apple's attitude and policies, but overreach none-the-less. I hope Apple sees the handwriting on the wall and makes some changes, but in the end I hope this fails. It is never good to let the government run anything.
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Apple won’t remove the iPhone from the EU, but the EU could very well force Apple out. Which would, of course, not affect many EU individuals as Apple’s marketshare is so low. BUT, it will definitely affect Apple’s bottom line… somewhat. Mainly because Apple may be forced to only sell the iPhone outside the EU, but any user in the EU that still wants an iPhone will be able to get it. And, they’ll just set it up to use other countries’ App Stores.
Everyone still gets what they want.
Everyone still gets what they want.
Good idea. They'll also need to pull out of US, UK, Australia and other countries also looking to put in similar rules and laws soon.
Maybe move their head offices to North Korea so they are closer to what might become their key market by that point.
Yeah, with just a laptop or MacBook, free software, and an OBD-II-to-USB-C cable.
To be fair, China and Russia did not require Apple to do anything that compromised or jeopardised its business model in any way. If anything, allowing Apple to maintain a closed ecosystem arguably helps China and makes it easier for them to regulate its citizens, and China has been instrumental in building up Apple's supply chain and allowing them to sell to the entire world. So there's at least quid pro quo in this regard.
What's the EU offering in exchange? Nothing. Zilch. Nada. It's all just "gimme gimme gimme".
I don't think Apple will pull out, but I do think what Apple will do in the short run is drag this out in court for as long as possible, while finding ways to implement these new pieces of legislation in a manner that makes the least concessions while still technically meeting the letter of the law.
It will be fun theory-crafting all the ways Apple could make this happen (kinda like a DM getting all creative in perverting a wish spell in dnd). ?
Eh, at this point it’s still just blather. Everyone’s saying they’re going to throw down the gauntlet, but they haven’t even acquired the materials to even build a gauntlet yet.
And, by the time this even gets close to implemented, it’ll be rife with exceptions, exemptions and allowances.I won't argue the EU doesn't need reform, its just we could have been the instigators of that change instead of looking in through the window on a cold winters' night whilst everyone else has a feast.
Brexit would get straightened out pretty sharpish had we a competent government in charge but the current clowns couldn't organise a fire in a match factory. They are all in it for themselves; that's why they put themselves at the top.
If I could have been sold on Dominic Cumming's vision of Brexit by making the UK a world leader in science, engineering and research and turning our world class higher education system into the world's university. Instead he got booted out by old Bozo and now the Tories will use it as an excuse to privatise every blade of grass in the country.
Yep, ridiculous post for ridiculous legislation.