But, being in the EU for so long, they’ve got the same natural inclinations as recent stories have shown.
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UK Planning Huge Fines for Companies Like Apple That Do Not Meet New Rules
Following reports that the UK government had dropped plans to heavily regulate Apple and other big tech companies using a new Digital Markets Unit...
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Politicians should write code as much as businesses should write legislation.
Bloody right -- a number of other reasons though, to be fair.
Yeah okay dude
I’ve always been kind of a EU apologist cause their policy on warranties and returns actually benefit us but they’re going full clown on this one lol
I’ve always been kind of a EU apologist cause their policy on warranties and returns actually benefit us but they’re going full clown on this one lol
The UK left the EU because there are plenty of closet-xenophobes and a predominantly rightwing press (owned by Non-Doms) that is hostile to "furriners".
Prior to its departure, the UK was a willing and necessary participant in the drafting of all EU directives. Very very few directives did not receive UK support. You could make a strong case that opening up a phone to competition is exactly the kind of thing that would appeal to the current UK government.
It will affect other companies, the story is just focused on impacts to Apple. Before this is all over, all these other companies will have their “input” into these plans and it’ll come out toothless like a baby. So that they can say they did a thing while also maintaining the tax revenue generated from users within the EU purchasing those products.
Because, in the end, if a user has to pay an out of EU tax using a out of EU account in order to buy the thing they want, they’ll do it.
It’s like the idea of focusing ONLY on customers that like and want to actively buy what you’re selling is somehow the wrong thing to do. BUT, that does make sense when you look at the size of most EU companies. That’s the mindset.
What? Windows CE and all the variants built upon it sucked. When Microsoft finally caught up to iOS with Windows Phone 7 (a little over 2 years later), guess what feature it did not have, cut and paste. ?
Not surprisingly, few of the "tech experts" at the time even bothered to mention that, but it was a big deal when the new from the bottoms up iOS didn't have it two years prior.
The mistake they made was hiring an ex-Microsoft exec (Elop)… who, of course, made the decision to go with Windows Phone.
If Apple were to pull out UK, or any country that is democratic, all other democratic countries would immediately reverse course on this. Two reasons, they wouldn't be voted in again, and the country probably makes more in taxes than the fines would be.
And if unicorns farted fairy dust, we'd all be living that cold-fusion powered nuclear life.
How about we keep the conversation to things that are actually at least remotely probable. There is a 0.000% chance that Apple will pull out of the EU.
That is basically what the EU is doing. Apple has to allow any other messaging platform to send messages to/receive from default iPhone messaging app.
They are allowing Apple to choose whatever backend server infrastructure they want to make this happen, but RCS is the obvious choice.
Um - no. There are currently widely used open messaging platforms in the world. SMS and Email. The EU should not force anyone to stop using either of those two.
The analog switch off had tangible benefits, it released those radio frequencies to be usable for other things. Shutting down SMS would have no benefits.
Thats a strange assumption, it would be easier to argue that because macOS has less attacks its more secure, for many reason. More resources per attack means quicker fixes. Less macOS users means attackers will have a bigger payoff if the go after Windows users. I'd rather live in a smaller city with 1 mile perimeter walls, than a huge city with 100 mile perimeter walls, if the amount of sentries are the same.
Even if the 1-mile perimeter walls were made of Styrofoam while the 100-mile one was made of concrete?
Ask Kim Dotcom or Julian Assange what can happen when a government on the other side of the world is after you.
It won't come to that though. Apple will protest and argue against these orders, but they'll comply.
LOL, the EU needs Apple for what? Apple pays almost no Tax in the EU, Apple is a pure economy leecher.
Apple provides nothing special to and in the EU, it's a fashion life style item manufacturer.
Nobody will cry if Apple decides to leave the EU, but i doubt they will, simply because greed is part of their DNA.
In your fictive scenario(turn iPhones into bricks), you forgot that the EU and the US has agreements to cross punish individuals and companies, good luck with that.
Anyway the same will come to the US, UK and rest of world, it's inevitable, simple as that and Apple will face it.
Apple & Google are f'ed, they will have to open their consumer traps ecosystems, and the more they kick legs and cry, the harder the hit will be.
I hope they also go directly after the CEO's of those companies, and the ones who does not comply to the rules and laws on purpose, just like with dieselgate. Would be fun to see Tim and a few of his stuff jailed, and their fortune and properties seized.
More like whatever the EU does will be so riddled with exemptions and allowances that it won’t matter. I mean, that’s assuming they actually “do” anything at all. Up until now, it’s been a very extended discussion of what they might do.
So, the products and services that Apple provides in the EU don’t have a tax attached? I wasn’t aware.
Apple harms the economy of the EU and the US...
No government has interest of protecting them in any way.
They circumvent taxes and prefer to manufacture their products in countries with weak human rights and regimes, instead in the US. Fake patriots!
They won't escape, their fortune comes mainly from tax circumvention, and that will be the next thing governments around the world will tackle.
As i said, Apple is a leecher.
So, the products and services that Apple provides in the EU don’t have a tax attached? I wasn’t aware. I’d thought VAT was on everything.Apple harms the economy of the EU and the US...
No government has interest of protecting them in any way.
They circumvent taxes and prefer to manufacture their products in countries with weak human rights and regimes, instead in the US. Fake patriots!
They won't escape, their fortune comes mainly from tax circumvention, and that will be the next thing governments around the world will tackle.
As i said, Apple is a leecher.
Apple doesn't avoid taxes using the double Irish strategy. They use it to delay paying taxes. And with the 2018 US corporate tax rate decrease, they've been repatriating most of their profits and paying taxes on them.Apple harms the economy of the EU and the US...
No government has interest of protecting them in any way.
They circumvent taxes and prefer to manufacture their products in countries with weak human rights and regimes, instead in the US. Fake patriots!
They won't escape, their fortune comes mainly from tax circumvention, and that will be the next thing governments around the world will tackle.
As i said, Apple is a leecher.
Of course, that only addresses corporate taxes. The EU also gets a huge amount on tax income from the sale of Apple products and services in the form of various types of sales taxes.
Ok. No taxes, check and just makes pretty things no one really wants. Check.
So no one really cares if Apple leaves, check. But, Apple makes money there so they will not leave. Check.
And they will make money if they stay, but have to give up all the secret sauce that makes Apple, Apple. Check.
So, keep selling devices to consumers in the EU. Comply and make whatever money they get and be happy. Open up everything. And figure out new ways to make money. So they can get fined for that new thing later on.
Check.
Doubtful. Republicans here actually like businesses a bit more than they do people.
I think Apple will eventually tell them to go F themselves. But that's just my opinion,.
Maybe. I mean, Google still is Google. They can just walk away from making devices (they only make a few). They can turn to licensing the Android OS and charging for it. And not care about much else.
Apple could also turn to making the device. And "offering" and OS that you can purchase. While allowing others to also offer an OS you can install on the device. Charge less for the OS Apple provides while charging more for the one it does not. Open OS option with whatever you want, and a Closed Apple option.
So the EU should go and arrest Tim Cook or any other American they wish for breaking rules that only "just" got created? Check
They maybe should focus on Russia and Ukraine for the time being. You know, life and death stuff may be more of a priority.