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Apple should just tell the EU to piss off and leave only one it’s going to hurt is EU people that love Apple. EU is big possible market but what Apple gets out of it is only 7% of smart phone sales which is pretty low
 
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Please explain why we would need a better port? What is missing from USB-C?
Well, at least Oppo thinks it’s too thick.


Yibao said that the Find N5 will be the world’s thinnest folding flagship phone. Codenamed Haiyan, he went on to say that they could make the phone even thinner but were limited by the thickness of the USB-C port.

The EU originally tried to mandate that all phones use Micro-USB. Two years after Apple released Lightning. Apple pushed back hard, so they made it voluntary and allowed Apple to include an adapter in the box rather than put Micro-USB on their phones. If that doesn’t show you the folly of letting regulators making decisions that should be left to engineers, I don’t know what will.

At the time, EU regulators said micro-USB was good enough and innovation in charging plugs was unlikely to matter much soon (sound familiar? Also note it was dead wrong). But even the voluntary standard effectively slowed the rollout of USB-C in smartphones because manufacturers didn’t want to produce different hardware for the EU vs. other regions. And now the standard is law. And sure, USB-C is good now. But we thought USB-A was good too. And what company is going to invest tens to hundreds or millions of dollars in designing a better port if it can’t be used in the EU?

I’m a big fan of USB-C. But I think mandating it into law is a terrible idea. If someone invented a new port, everyone agreed it’s way better than USB-C, the inventor gives it away to all manufacturers for free, and even the EU agrees it is significantly better, it will take between 4 and 8 years before it can be the port on phones in the EU. In my opinion, that’s insanity.
 
The EU can take credit when they write their first line of code. Otherwise they should butt out and let the marketplace decide rather than take $$$$$ from their homegrown, cry-baby tech companies to force a free ride on the backs of non-EU tech platforms.
 
The EU took the initiative in creating iOS-Android transfer software!
Google initiated Android to Mac transfer software back in 2013, with Android File Transfer App, to state the EU took the initiate with iOS - Android, is somewhat misleading.As there has been for a number of years, work by both platforms, to allow for users of one system, to buy the other's device and easily transfer their data. Ultimately what this will do, will be to stop the two major phone os's fighting over new users, and allow an easy transition.
You had to be around in the early 2000's, trying to move outlook pst's to a Mac, to appreciate how easy it is these days.
 
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I am not sure how this is any better for developers. Most data is already synced via the cloud, and the biggest issue stopping developers from bringing their apps to Android is that there just isn't much money to be made in the space.

Maybe the EU should go one step further, and ban any iOS app in their market which doesn't have an Android equivalent (and vice versa), if they really want to push for better inter-operability between the two platforms. 😏
 
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Nothing wrong with celebrating fewer barriers!

That said, the EU also claimed app prices would go down…still waiting for that magical, kickback-paying, unicorn to appear 😝

And let’s not forget the EU has also been fighting to open up the iPhone to more advertisers. Cause gosh darn it, who cares about consumer protections when there is profit to be made!
 
I am not sure how this is any better for developers. Most data is already synced via the cloud, and the biggest issue stopping developers from bringing their apps to Android is that there just isn't much money to be made in the space.

Maybe the EU should go one step further, and ban any iOS app in their market which doesn't have an Android equivalent (and vice versa), if they really want to push for better inter-operability between the two platforms. 😏
be careful for what you wish for😕
 
Patting themselves on the back for something that is rather benign compared to the rest of their misguided theories and regulatory actions.
 
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How is forcing companies to be more compatible stifling economic growth?
Instead of being able to lock customers in, they have to really compete in the marketplace. How is that not capitalism in its purest form?
How is it not capitalism in its purest form? Let's see ...forced government regulation, not a free market, restraints forced by regulation, indirect subsidies. The EU regulators have no idea what capitalism in its"purest form" is.
 
Nah. More power to the EU. That "economic growth" never seems to benefit the average Joe, just the 1% who ride roughshod over anyone who stands in their way.
I don't think you understand the causes of lopsided wealth accumulation or potential solutions. The DMA does nothing to address those issues as it is not really their business or mission .
 
This is just dumb. Apple’s Move to iPhone app has been available on the Play Store for a decade. Google has had guidance for many years and released their Move to Android app on the App Store several years ago. Moving between platforms has never been hard technically. What exactly did the EU do here?
 
And rightfully so.

Less barriers are always beneficial for customers. Otherwise, we'd still be using Lightning instead of USB-C.
Which I would be totally fine with - didn’t have a single issue with my lightning cables throughout the years, but now my family doesn’t charge with the same plugs any more and I have not really found a ton of benifit from swapping to USB C on my iPhone
 
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Be careful about what you read “somewhere”. Not everything written is true. What you wrote certainly isn’t. Have you ever visited any places in Europe?
Of course it's true. EU doesn't tax European tech companies, so that amounts to 0 EUR. EU places exorbitant fines on American companies of X billion EUR. So, yes it's certainly more.

European countries tax the European tech companies, EU doesn't have a tax authority. EU gets their money from fines and membership fees (EU countries).
 
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The world would be better off if the EU went the way of the dodo. The EU is stifling economic growth and the European Commission’s “solution” is to try to export its regulatory regime worldwide to bring everyone else down to their level.
Best agreed estimates is that UK growth is down by £110bn per annum as a result of leaving.
They have no jurisdiction to export their laws worldwide.
 
I read somewhere that EU fines against US tech companies are higher than their total tax revenue of their own tech companies. Perhaps that's the main reason for this bloated bureaucracy. That's the state of the EU. And it's only going to get worse. They're an outdated and old economy, stuck in their old ways and unable to keep up with competitors who have long since overtaken them without them even realizing it. The economic situation in Germany is currently bad, and we will see german car manufacturers going out of business one by one within the next decade. If Germany fails, the EU will be in trouble.
The EU is like the USA at federal level, except it can’t tax citizens.
It homogenises trade rules between states to ensure that there is a level playing field for all members.

Getting rid of the EU is akin to getting rid of your federal government, shutting Washington DC down.
The parallel to your German comments is for California to leave your union.
 
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