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It's not only likely that a new future port design will be better than USB C, but also that the new port will feature better technology. This is like asking why we need a new port when we have USB A, or what is missing from a Nokia flip phone.
The law mandates a future revision of the norm, which is focused more on having a uniform charger for all device, like mandating at the beginning CCS2 everywhere avoided us all the NACS2CCS1 and vice versa that you ahve in the US.

Also, Apple lost, IMO, any chance to complain when they moved all iPads to type C and kept all iPhones on lightning.
 
Let the consumer decide.
Most consumers do not know enough to make an informed decision.
If my government protects me from chinese surveillance, why shouldn't I let them do it?

Every government tries to protect its citizens against threats (be it perceived or real). Why is that bad? US is doing it at the moment on many levels. Tariffs. ICE. National Guards.
Are you opposed to that kinds of protections as well?
 
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The EU argued for this to prevent 'lock-in'.

I wonder what real effect it will have on the marketplace. Transferring from one device to another is not the issue - it's the walled gardens around their device ecosystems (e.g. purchased Apps, device exclusives, Apple Music/Google Play etc.) that creates the real barrier to switching.

I'm not saying it is a bad thing, it's just I don't think it will change consumer options in any meaningful way.
You are right but from my experience users are challenged by even much simpler things like backing up contacts, photos, phone itself etc. Many my friends start over with every new phone as they are not able to manage syncing or backup at all. Apple users who has properly set up Apple ID on phone are very lucky :D I am syncing my contacts since Sony button phone, maybe about 20 years.
 
The world would be better off if the EU went the way of the dodo. The EU is stifling economic growth and the European Commission’s “solution” is to try to export its regulatory regime worldwide to bring everyone else down to their level.

as long as it protects Europe from falling into authoritarianism like much of the world, we'll gladly accept less economic growth.

on a side note, less economic growth is exactly what the doctor urgently recommends for, you know, this ecosystem we call earth
 
I read somewhere that EU fines against US tech companies are higher than their total tax revenue of their own tech companies. Perhaps that's the main reason for this bloated bureaucracy. That's the state of the EU. And it's only going to get worse. They're an outdated and old economy, stuck in their old ways and unable to keep up with competitors who have long since overtaken them without them even realizing it. The economic situation in Germany is currently bad, and we will see german car manufacturers going out of business one by one within the next decade. If Germany fails, the EU will be in trouble.

your whole argument is based on the idea that competition is the only logical way to exist on this planet, which interestingly enough, is based psychologically on a lack of trust.

If I can't be sure I will be provided for, I have to compete and out scheme others to get what I want.

The downside of this is that we see each other as obstacles and enemies (and teammates to help us overcome our obstacles and enemies), and so we are quite literally killing each other and the planet we all live on to get more for ourselves.

Imagine what life here could look like if we cooperated instead of competed, if we came together to discuss what's actually important for this planet instead of everyone just focusing on competition, economic growth, and personal gain.
 
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Politicians and politics were the problem. They didn't evolve and instead remained stuck in the past, just like Nokia and Blackberry. And because politicians use cars as a campaign tool. They even have a seat on VW's board and stifle innovation to win elections by pretending to protect jobs by keeping everything as it is, in reality, the opposite is true. They quickly ousted the last person who wanted to revive and modernize VW.
Well, VW is dominating BEV sales in Europe which is an indicator for modernisation. On a side note, Tesla is unfortunately a rounding error at the moment partly due to Musk right wing agenda and partly a stale car lineup. The second generation German cars seem to be very competitive (BMW, MB, Audi). Renault in particular makes supercool small BEVs (R5). VW ID.Polo will be a hit and may give insight into VW second generation cars. Let's see how it all plays out with the Chinese competitors that are breathing down their necks. All in all a sound competitive market unlike iOS/Android.
 
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The world would be better off if the EU went the way of the dodo. The EU is stifling economic growth and the European Commission’s “solution” is to try to export its regulatory regime worldwide to bring everyone else down to their level.
Yeah! To hell with product and food safety and consumer protection. By the way how did your cereals colored with poison and sweetened with corn syrup taste this morning?
 
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I'm not saying it is a bad thing, it's just I don't think it will change consumer options in any meaningful way.
The EU takes credit for ensuring the duopoly they legislated against extends indefinitely. “US tech is just undeniably better compared to EU tech.” When asked for one way US tech is so much better, they replied, “It exists”.
 
Well, VW is dominating BEV sales in Europe which is an indicator for modernisation. On a side note, Tesla is unfortunately a rounding error at the moment partly due to Musk right wing agenda and partly a stale car lineup. The second generation German cars seem to be very competitive (BMW, MB, Audi). Renault in particular makes supercool small BEVs (R5). VW ID.Polo will be a hit and may give insight into VW second generation cars. Let's see how it all plays out with the Chinese competitors that are breathing down their necks. All in all a sound competitive market unlike iOS/Android.
VW is about to go down right now and other car manufacturers have problems too. I don’t know were you got the they are doing fine. Germany is on high alert right now. There economy is shrinking because the car manufacturers lost the China market and also don’t sell enough new cars in other markets.
 
The law mandates a future revision of the norm, which is focused more on having a uniform charger for all device.
And its never going to happen or it will happen slowly because bureaucracy. Governments in Europe are pretty slow reacting to new things. Its like they wanted to do micro USB as a standard port back in the day. If that happened we would never get USB C this early. Also Apple did not lost. They created USB C and pushed it pretty early except on phones.
 
The EU is like the USA at federal level, except it can’t tax citizens.
It homogenises trade rules between states to ensure that there is a level playing field for all members.

Getting rid of the EU is akin to getting rid of your federal government, shutting Washington DC down.
The parallel to your German comments is for California to leave your union.
Never said getting rid of the EU or Germany leaving the EU. Germanys economy needs the EU because they are an export economy but also Germanys economy is shrinking right now. Also the EU is not like the US. The US is one country while the EU is just a economic union with independent countries.
 
Be careful about what you read “somewhere”. Not everything written is true. What you wrote certainly isn’t. Have you ever visited any places in Europe?
I live in the EU, and the EU doesn't have any major tech companies. Therefore, it's probably true, considering they did billions worth of fines for Google, Apple, Meta, etc. Anyone who thinks that fines weren't part of the reason for the new laws is naive. They knew they can cash in. The EU urgently needs new sources of revenue now that their economy is shrinking.
 
VW is about to go down right now and other car manufacturers have problems too. I don’t know were you got the they are doing fine. Germany is on high alert right now. There economy is shrinking because the car manufacturers lost the China market and also don’t sell enough new cars in other markets.
What a pessimist and perfect EU citizen!

So the car industry need to readjust. I am sure they will. Will they be smaller - likely. Those who lose their jobs can do someting else - like more green tech and weapons. I believe Germanys unwillingness to invest and borrow money in general have something to do with lack of growth. Metz seem to be willing to change that.

I agree, EU needs new sources of income and get a far better internal market and willingness to invest.

No, EU GDP is not shrinking it is growing slowly. Germanys is though.

Little bit tired of Tech=IT tech. There is more on the planet than that. Like the equipment produced in the Netherlands for making state of the art computer chips or more broadly Green tech, Med tech, Bio tech, telecom tech. Om MR we hear very little about this.
 
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So if you think the entire EU budget is solely based on fines of US companies you really need to educate yourself. But then again - education seems to be a lacking quality of most US citizens these days unfortunately.
The message was really not that long, but you failed to read until the end. You can have another go at it, better luck this time! Godspeed!
 
I live in the EU, and the EU doesn't have any major tech companies. Therefore, it's probably true, considering they did billions worth of fines for Google, Apple, Meta, etc. Anyone who thinks that fines weren't part of the reason for the new laws is naive. They knew they can cash in. The EU urgently needs new sources of revenue now that their economy is shrinking.
As stated above. The fines make up 0.X% of EU’s budget. The fines are not made to finance EU
 
As stated above. The fines make up 0.X% of EU’s budget. The fines are not made to finance EU
Nice, you're making progress, you're now admitting the fines are a part of the budget. By the way, that 0.X % is a lot of money in absolute terms.

Now try to go back and find the part where it says the entire budget is financed by the fines. To your point about "fines not made to finance the EU", if that is so, why don't they give it all to charity? Of course they are if that's where they end up in.
 
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Nice, you're making progress, you're now admitting the fines are a part of the budget. By the way, that 0.X % is a lot of money in absolute terms.

Now try to go back and find the part where it says the entire budget is financed by the fines. To your point about "fines not made to finance the EU", if that is so, why don't they give it all to charity? Of course they are if that's where they end up in.
Of course they play a part in the budget. EU isn’t donating the money to street cats.

However they are not a planned part of the budget. Just like they aren’t planned against US companies. All companies are fined if they don’t follow EU law no matter their country of origin. That is the same with foreign companies operating in the US. A EU company has to follow US laws if it is operating in the US. Same same and only fair.
 
I live in the EU, and the EU doesn't have any major tech companies. Therefore, it's probably true, considering they did billions worth of fines for Google, Apple, Meta, etc. Anyone who thinks that fines weren't part of the reason for the new laws is naive. They knew they can cash in. The EU urgently needs new sources of revenue now that their economy is shrinking.
The EU has several major tech companies. The premise on which you built that strawman is flawed beyond belief.
 
Of course they play a part in the budget. EU isn’t donating the money to street cats.

However they are not a planned part of the budget. Just like they aren’t planned against US companies. All companies are fined if they don’t follow EU law no matter their country of origin. That is the same with foreign companies operating in the US. A EU company has to follow US laws if it is operating in the US. Same same and only fair.
Not to get stuck on this, but those fines are billions. That would some half-assed planning if they didn't have any idea of how many fines they expect. Just like states, cities, counties budget around some figure of expected fines from things like speeding and such, I bet EU has a planned figure for how many fines they expect to receive annually.

Like you say, it's a part of the budget. If they don't fine anyone, they'd have to decrease their salaries or contributions to countries or increase income elsewhere, so that creates an incentive throw fines around. Even for silly things like blue checkmarks.
 
And its never going to happen or it will happen slowly because bureaucracy. Governments in Europe are pretty slow reacting to new things. Its like they wanted to do micro USB as a standard port back in the day. If that happened we would never get USB C this early. Also Apple did not lost. They created USB C and pushed it pretty early except on phones.
Except on iphones…

Also, we avoided the mess of multiple chargers for cars…
 
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