EU Takes Credit for Apple and Google's Upcoming iPhone-Android Data Transfer Tools

[darrenoia]

I think we shall agree we disagree, right?

I get what you are saying, but I think that the free market would never cause a shift from usb-c, due to its almost universality.

And for a theoretical and potential benefit, you are accepting a given malus

It seems to me that your argument that USB-C will never be replaced based on "almost universality" is an admission that an EU-mandated monopoly will stifle innovation. This is exactly the point of the argument.

Meanwhile, mandated switching to USB-C hasn't saved me any money or inconvenience. I've had to buy more cables than I otherwise would have needed and my lightning devices didn't magically change to USB-C overnight. Plus, it didn't do away with micro-USB that comes on all the cheap devices.

It's weird how these rules almost seem intended to inconvenience the major U.S. players. If I didn't know better, I'd think the EU was exacting revenge on Apple (and Google) for rendering Nokia irrelevant.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

“See how the American market leaders are making it easy to go from one American market leader’s solutions to another American market leader’s solution? We’re the reason why the lock in is happening! Praise us! Before our actions, the American market leaders wouldn’t have worked together as it may have been seen by the EU ans American market leaders working together to crowd out non-Americancompetition. But, since we’ve told them that’s actually what we want, they of course feel safe doing so!”

 

[djphat2000]

Do you have any idea how you change a port in a space constrained iPhone? It's been well documented that it's technically a challenge, and not as simple as 'swapping' parts. Apple weren't even allowed to simply provide the cable and plug for their devices, to achieve the EU goal. You buy a TV, a Playstation, and many other consumer electronics, and the EU doesn't force the companies to have a standard charging port. Some come with figure of 8 designs, or one of 8 pin diameter designs, or the IEC style plug.
The EU went after the biggest cash cow it could.
Yeah sure, USB - C is great, but let's see what happens when tech companies, go fully wireless.

This. 💯
Not like we couldn't power a TV with USB-C cables as well (5A, 48V, 240Watts). Maybe not a plasma TV 😆. Could move off of HDMI too. Everything could be over USB-C. OR, Thunderbolt. But, naturally that isn't what the EU did. They just went after Apple.

 

[djphat2000]

The law mandates a future revision of the norm, which is focused more on having a uniform charger for all device, like mandating at the beginning CCS2 everywhere avoided us all the NACS2CCS1 and vice versa that you ahve in the US.

Also, Apple lost, IMO, any chance to complain when they moved all iPads to type C and kept all iPhones on lightning.

These tend to be design decisions more so than just not providing a port "because" someone wants it.
iPhone/iPad designs are years in the future. So expecting Apple to swap ports on the fly isn't realistic. They are not Huawei or Oppo, or whatever that jump on brand new tech first like some Chinese companys. They made it to work with the tech they expect to have in supply for years. And will work across the globe. Lighting was a great answer to USB-A ports or Micro USB Ports. Super easy to use on a consumer side (reversible), and small. This and other reasons is why Apple's "design" doesn't change often from model to model. That port was designed to last a long time.

 

[JustSomebody12]

It seems to me that your argument that USB-C will never be replaced based on "almost universality" is an admission that an EU-mandated monopoly will stifle innovation. This is exactly the point of the argument.

no, it is an admission that you are searching for an only hypothetical advantage.
I would read it again.

mandated switching to USB-C hasn't saved me any money or inconvenience

Instead, since I have lightning iPhone and a type-C iPad, I need both instead of just one cable.

It's weird how these rules almost seem intended to inconvenience the major U.S. players

Countries apply laws for businesses operating within their borders. So does America, so does China.
Sanctions apply to non-US entities wishing to trade with non-US entities which trade with the US.
And all the dieselgate happened in the US, and the Monsanto case got big in the US after the company got bought by a non-US conglomerate