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EU Warns Apple About Limiting Speeds of Uncertified USB-C Cables for iPhones
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There's already the CE mark for Europe - though that's a consumer guidance mark rather than a mandatory requirement. I'd argue that that's fair though, those who want a certain level of assurance can buy cables with the CE mark, likewise those who still just want the cheapest cables can continue to buy and use them. Caveat emptor.
My argument was that Apple could have switched to USB-C for all products earlier.
Also, what do you mean, “too costly”? Is USB-C expensive to implement?
It wouldn't have been this bad had Apple converted to USB-C 5 years ago when almost all but the cheap crap phones were already using USB-C.
But no, the greed for lightning cables was there. No environmental thought.
So when Apple removes ports all together, will the EU mandate that wireless charging be as fast as devices that can still use wired charging? Or penalize Apple for adhering to the laws of physics?
Is there really an epidemic of faulty cables causing fires and destroying phones? Think of how often people pick up a charging cable at a gas station on a road trip (I've done this multiple times). Think of all the cables that get sold at bargain retailers. None of these are MFI certified.
If these "cheap" cables are destroying phones left and right and causing fires daily, I think we'd hear more about this very serious problem. Of course there will be faulty cables, just like there are faulty products in every arena, but it doesn't seem like this is a big problem. Where's the data showing a disproportionate percentage of destroyed phones and fires caused by non-MFI cables?
it would be cheaper to have usb-c...? like, it might have been cheaper to have just implemented usb-c on everything when they did it with macbooks, and also they don't even need to change any charger designs, because they already can just toss in ipad chargers, and their block is already usb-c
EU Consumer: "Apple, why is my iPad shorting out and my battery damaged?"
Apple: "Your government is run by idiots who do not have engineering degrees and do not understand how a power cable is made."
Apple: "Your government is run by idiots who do not have engineering degrees and do not understand how a power cable is made."
My argument is that they cannot for the price point they're trying to reach.
The entry level iPads uses an older, tried and tested design which are cheaper to build. If you switched to USB-C, Apple Pencil 1 would not work as it needs lightning to charge. So you'd need to use the flat sided design which will make the entry level iPad cost more, but at least you can charge the Pencil 2 on the side. This is exactly why they still sell the entry level iPad today with the old design and Apple Pencil 1 support.
It's not expensive to implement USB-C. What is expensive is the loss of revenue from the MFi program with a proprietary Lightning port. No one can manufacture a Lighting cable without Apple getting a cut, as they own the spec and standard.
Apple gets no cut from any USB-C cable sold.
lol, explain my iphone se batt is at 89% health and it hasn't been charged by a genuine apple cord since 2017, lol
But think of all of the loss in revenue from Apple not making $28 profit off of a cable that costs < $1 to make!
They won’t stop working once the USB-C iPhone is released. And you don’t think the connector was going to be changed at some point regardless of laws?
The big bad boogeyman government. Lol. This is about common sense. Standards bring many tangible benefits to society as a whole, as well as to the individual user/consumer. This has nothing to do with control. That's absurd. The individual will benefit from all devices using the same type of charging cable, from not needing different chargers for different products, etc. The only entity trying to control anything is (in this case) Apple by using an unnecessary proprietary cable type in order to make more money. That's the only "control" happening.
What do you mean?! They can do whatever they want. They just didn’t want to. Instead of making it a standard feature like every other tablet and peripheral since 2016, Apple chose to treat it like a premium feature.
Show me the evidence that non-MFI cables are causing an epidemic of damage. There are probably 100x as many non-MFI cables as MFI-certified cables sold. I see no evidence that there's an epidemic of poor quality cables wreaking havoc on devices. This just seems like another Apple marketing talking point that gets parroted by fanboys on sites like this. Where's the evidence? Where are the stats?
im crying laughing rn 🤣
uhhh anyone who isn't bouji like you?
like, you do realize not everyone has cash to spend on magsafe...?
also, don't cry when you get your phone stolen and have no backups or way to get into your phone as soon as they log you out bc YoU'Re WeIrD iF YoU PlUg In yOUr IpHoNe
also, i use a old iphone se as my personal cellphone, so that's not even a option for me
Yes, it is. Their product, their choice. And, no, I've never used Twitter in my life.
Oh for heaven's sake, you know what I mean. The EU is a partnership between multiple governments. Let's not pretend that it's some private organization that somehow has the power to impose regulations and fines on companies operating in the EU.
If it's not about control, then why are they trying to control how Apple designs their products and what cable certifications they require? I understand that you and others believe it's beneficial to consumers, but so would replaceable RAM in the Apple Silicon Macs, but of course that's not possible with SoC. So should Apple be fined by the EU for selling those to the EU market too? Where does this insanity end? Governments need to BUTT OUT of product design and let the consumers decide for themselves. If enough people stop buying iPhones because of this issue, then Apple will naturally adapt to the market. That's as it should be.
Omg
I love this so much. The EU is onto Apple's greedy shenanigans!
But you just know that Apple is 100% going to do its "Pros get it first then mid-tier in 1-2 years" because they can, technically, put out iPhones that don't adhere to the law right up to the deadline and not face consequences.
The means we'll still get all the proprietary USB-C b.s. with both the 2023 and 2024 line-ups.
The non-abiding iPhones won't even have to be removed from store shelves. Only the ones that Apple puts out after the deadline have to adhere to the regulations.
Amazing that the EU is onto it and will free us from the Apple's MFi b.s. from 2025 and moving on at the very least.
I love this so much. The EU is onto Apple's greedy shenanigans!
But you just know that Apple is 100% going to do its "Pros get it first then mid-tier in 1-2 years" because they can, technically, put out iPhones that don't adhere to the law right up to the deadline and not face consequences.
The means we'll still get all the proprietary USB-C b.s. with both the 2023 and 2024 line-ups.
The non-abiding iPhones won't even have to be removed from store shelves. Only the ones that Apple puts out after the deadline have to adhere to the regulations.
Amazing that the EU is onto it and will free us from the Apple's MFi b.s. from 2025 and moving on at the very least.
too late!
"what is wifi?" -from recording of the tik tok ban debate thingy they had here in the us a month or so ago
edit, i found a video of it lol