Good. Apple is wrong to ban one of the most widely used and accepted technology on the web TODAY.
If you don't like Flash, you can uninstall it. But why not have the freedom to choose?!
American companies have the right to be wrong.
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European Commission Joins Investigation of Apple's Flash Exclusion Policies
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American companies have the right to be wrong.
So you accept whatever Apple sells, good or bad? Of course I can go Android, (which obviously many people will), but that is not the point. I have a mac computer, so I'd like to use the most mac compatible mobile product. Why does Apple deny their paying customers freedom of choice? It stinks. It stinks bad...
Nobody had a problem when the EU was going after Microsoft. In fact people here were praising the EU.
LOL. Is it Microsoft's right to bundle IE with Windows and exclude other browsers? Look at how that turned out.
No one is forcing you to use flash. All some people are asking is to have the option of viewing flash content on their devices. Who are you to deny what others want on their devices, paid by their hard earned money?
I just don't get this. Denied the freedom to choose?! I have absolute freedom to choose. I can choose not to buy a device if I think it should do something that it doesn't do!
Every company makes choices about what options to offer as part of its service. Apple has made choices to include or exclude certain options based on its understanding of its martket and and the priorities, both tactical and strategic, that it wishes to focus on. If you don't like those choices then you are absolutely free to go and buy someone else's product.
Apple, for example, does not give me the option to buy a Mac with an AMD processor. I can't even install one if I want to. Does that constitute denying my freedom to choose or does it just mean that is what they offer?
Can we move on from this 'Apple should let us decide' crap? They do let us decide! We can decide to buy or not to buy what they offer us. It stuns me how silly these things can get, it really does.
On the other side of the coin, why aren't you upset with android that they are not more mac compatible? You look at the iphone and that it's not flash compatible, why not look at android and be upset that it isn't more mac compatible. Then you don't have to buy the iphone.
Big difference - MS were and still are in a monopoly position. Monopoly is bad for consumers. Apple isn't a monopoly by any stretch of the imagination. You're comparing two things that aren't at all alike.
Well, there are several reasons as to why Apple excluded flash from their iPhone. In one word: performance. Flash does several things, such as dropping the battery life, lagging the OS, and heating the darn thing up like a stove.
Flawed argument. When Apple dropped floppy disks, there were a number of available and better technologies on the market. ZIP drives being one. USB and the internet were breaking big and fast.
Right now, YouTube, Hulu, and other content companies are sticking with Flash and holding off on HTML5 for many reasons. Mostly, it's not ready and will not be widely compatible among various platforms for some time (if completely at all). Flash is here TODAY!
Here's a reality slap courtesy YouTube:
http://apiblog.youtube.com/2010/06/flash-and-html5-tag.html
If you don't like Flash, you can uninstall it. But why not have the freedom to choose?!
Apple is not about freedom or choice, just look at how many people want a blu-ray drive but are not even given the option to have one.
There's a difference between "Customers Demand Something" and any governmental agency that force a company to do so.... nuances.
The best a customer has is the fact to NOT BUY something. Lot of people that just buy stuff because they can, probably don't even realize that anymore. It could sound close-mind to you, but it IS actually that simple.
When a company sells no product, it's the proof the product is bad and not welcomed by users. Then, they will listen users and make what the users want. If they can afford to live without listening the users, good for them...
I personally haven't buy the iPad. Why? Not for the flash... just because in my consumer point of view, it lacks the front camera to be able to do Skype (and now FaceTime). I'm sure Apple can live without my money... I will simply buy it when I will find the product good enough for me.... and not because millions of people bought it... period.
There's no need of any governmental agency actions for that. Do we need the CE to force Apple to include a front camera in the iPad? No... so what would it be different with the Flash?
So, I say it again (and actually just repeat what Steve said by himself): if you don't like it... don't buy it.
Hah, nice flip.
The other thing... everyone always seems to forget about all the great things the iPhone can do. Why is it always about how there's no flash, or that the antenna has issues. Besides those two things, what else is there?
Flash 10.1 addresses all these issues. Steve Jobs doesn't want you to know about it though...
So there's no argument. But would Apple really exclude Flash just in spite of Adobe? They're not THAT petty.
Give it some time they will investigate android when it gets popular.
I doubt Apple would let them be Mac compatible. Anyway android is cloud based or at least thats what google wants it to be. You sync your photos videos from your phone to Picasa and you can connect iCal to googles calender and have everything sync to your phone.
You can also drag and drop files/music from the PC (Mac or Windows) to the flash card. think of your phone as a hard drive.
Stand up to them for what? If you say Android is going to be the winner, than why punish Apple for making their own decisions if they're not the majority winner?
Still doesn't matter, Apple has the right to determine what tools developers can use to develop applications for their devices just as Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo does for their consoles.
You own the hardware but you do not own the software that runs on it, you only own a license to it. The only thing EC can do is tell Apple to open their hardware to other OS. Apple can not be forced to adopt competitor's software on their hardware. They can be forced to open their APIs to all competitors but they can't be forced to INCLUDE them.
What trends? Sales, of course since Android is being used on all kinds of phones and all kinds of networks with all kinds of versions. Sales do not mean anything, Google doesn't make money off them.
There are over 100 million iOS devices on the market right now, that's a billion dollar industry already. Android market may catch up but it doesn't mean anything because it's two different markets that developers will take advantage of, it's more money to them.
Apple does not have to do anything users want, it's up to Apple how they want to succeed or fail. If they think flash trancoded to iOS applications are bad, they have the right to decide that. They'll lose a lot of Flash developers and guess what, that's a loss to Apple in every way and they're willing to take it. You do not get a choice in how Apple should do their business. You are a consumer of Apple product, not citizen in Apple's business.
Users always have the right to "desire" whatever they want, those rights have nothing to do with what Apple can or cannot do.
Companies do not have to do whatever their customers "demand". It's their right to say NO. People are whining because Apple has the balls to say NO to their customers.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Javascript, popups and fraud warnings are all under Apple's total control meaning that every line of code is visible to Apple. That's why Apple can add those sliders, because they know every line of code and javascript is fully open which Apple can take advantage to make it secure and optimized on their devices.
That's not true for Flash, Apple does not have total control of Flash. Not to mention there are always security issues in Flash and Apple need to manually update the Flash often or so to protect their devices.
Apple has to spend money and time to maintain the plugin. There's a reason there's no plugins in Safari right now on iPhone. Why should Apple be forced to allow Flash when they aren't allowing any other plugins.
It's not simple as that.
And? Apple did not force their way to get the power and influence, people are choosing to buy Apple products, not forced at gunpoint. It's a bit different from MS forcing vendors to have Windows or IE only.
...and if you look close enough you can actually see a shooter on the grassy knoll.
Don't worry....I HEAR if a videos has started but I hear it not from my sound system...I hear my mac...FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!
Cue thousands of people returning their phones. Wouldn't do Apple much good if the guys at the stores had to say "Oh yeah, Flash will screw up your phone. But we put in a slider to turn it off."