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Safety precautions prevent most EVs from charging while in gear.
I was not talking about charging. I was talking about a powered trailer. By "zero inertia", I suggest a wheel load sensing system that would provide canceling drive and braking such that the towing vehicle would not be affected at all by the presence of the trailer.
 
I was not talking about charging. I was talking about a powered trailer. By "zero inertia", I suggest a wheel load sensing system that would provide canceling drive and braking such that the towing vehicle would not be affected at all by the presence of the trailer.
Ooo you mean the trailer would also have a motor. Now that is an interesting idea.
 
I can think of one big issue that would be unique to Californians in particular (glad I don't live there anymore)! But...California wants people to move on from gas powered cars. To the point where they are banning (did that legislation actually go through?) gas powered car sales by the 2030's.

The problem: California can't keep the power on when it's hot and dry. If they want people to move to electric en masse, to the point where they are actually making legislation for it, they need to get their energy situation figured out. Given the amount of money California has (claims to have) their electricity situation could be considered unacceptable and basically embarrassing. I live in an area that gets hot and dry...and has quite the fire risk when it's hot and dry for extended periods...and yet we can manage to keep the lights on.



As for me, electric is of interest. (I AM interested in an EV, just not going for it yet. It'll be a while). In my area, everyone has their own garage, which means we can easily accommodate charging. But somewhere like Chicago for example, where many don't have a garage (or even a driveway) there needs to be a solution for that. You can't really expect people to make the switch when they can't charge their cars at home because they can't park anywhere other than the street, along with all of their neighbors.
 
I can think of one big issue that would be unique to Californians in particular (glad I don't live there anymore)! But...California wants people to move on from gas powered cars. To the point where they are banning (did that legislation actually go through?) gas powered car sales by the 2030's.

The problem: California can't keep the power on when it's hot and dry. If they want people to move to electric en masse, to the point where they are actually making legislation for it, they need to get their energy situation figured out. Given the amount of money California has (claims to have) their electricity situation could be considered unacceptable and basically embarrassing. I live in an area that gets hot and dry...and has quite the fire risk when it's hot and dry for extended periods...and yet we can manage to keep the lights on.



As for me, electric is of interest. (I AM interested in an EV, just not going for it yet. It'll be a while). In my area, everyone has their own garage, which means we can easily accommodate charging. But somewhere like Chicago for example, where many don't have a garage (or even a driveway) there needs to be a solution for that. You can't really expect people to make the switch when they can't charge their cars at home because they can't park anywhere other than the street, along with all of their neighbors.
If every building in CA had even a small solar setup (with battery backup) they would have no issue with power...
 
If every building in CA had even a small solar setup (with battery backup) they would have no issue with power...
Very true. But that only works if people can afford it. Where I live, solar ain't cheap. Many people out here have to wait 20 years before it pays for itself and savings actually kick in.
 
Very true. But that only works if people can afford it. Where I live, solar ain't cheap. Many people out here have to wait 20 years before it pays for itself and savings actually kick in.

Borrowing money is cheap. And for somewhere as sunny as California I’d be surprised if the payback was 20 years. It’s 15-20 years in the south of England.
 
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It’s 15-20 years in the south of England.
Really. 99%+ Americans live in the continental US. The northern-most piece of land in the lower-48 is the tip of the northwest angle in Minnesota, at around 49°23'N; the southernmost place on Britain, Lizard Point Cornwall, is at about 49°57'N (some 30 miles farther north). So if the Brits can get good returns on PV panels, Americans should be able to get much better returns.
 
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Tesla will be facing some strong competition from NIO soon. I wonder if they have figured out those motors yet from Tesla. If they can get the performance numbers and reliability out of their motors to match Tesla’s and improve on safety and quality then they stand a big chance to compete. As of now Tesla rules with performance numbers but I believe China has already beat Tesla on battery performance and will continue to do so. Safety results from crash tests will be very crucial because Tesla cars are pretty highly rated so the Chinese manufacturers have some catching up to do but I reckon they should be able to catch up. I am sure them Model 3 cars are in their factories being dissected by top engineers. Heck Porsche,BMW,VW,Audi and Mercedes did the same thing lol..

 
Tesla will be facing some strong competition from NIO soon. I wonder if they have figured out those motors yet from Tesla. If they can get the performance numbers and reliability out of their motors to match Tesla’s and improve on safety and quality then they stand a big chance to compete. As of now Tesla rules with performance numbers but I believe China has already beat Tesla on battery performance and will continue to do so. Safety results from crash tests will be very crucial because Tesla cars are pretty highly rated so the Chinese manufacturers have some catching up to do but I reckon they should be able to catch up. I am sure them Model 3 cars are in their factories being dissected by top engineers. Heck Porsche,BMW,VW,Audi and Mercedes did the same thing lol..


What do you mean by performance?
 
What do you mean by performance?
Yeah Teslas are more or less inverter limited (mostly due to heat) at this point. IIRC the S draws ~1600A in launch mode, the 3 pulls ~1300A.

Not sure if NIO is going for that kind of performance, or if they are focusing on the reliability performance of the PMSRM itself.
 
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