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'Evasi0n' Arrives as First Untethered Jailbreak for iPhone 5 and iOS 6.x

Renzatic said:
...and you pay for it. That's the thing here. It's not like I'm taking advantage of the telcos by abusing a loophole or something. If I go over my monthly allotment, I'm charged X amount plus for every gig I go over.

There is no opinion about that. It's all fact. Tethering costs the telcos nothing. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY CHARGING YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE TAKING! How does using 40GB on my iPhone cost them less or puts less stress on the infrastructure than using 20GB on my iPhone, and 20GB from my tethered iPad? I'm taking 40GB from them, and paying for it.

Instead, I have to pay an extra $20-30 or so to use a service that used to be built into mobile OSes until the iPhone came out and they decided to monetize the feature.
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Nope, you agree to pay according to their terms. That is what a contract is after all.


You assume that a user paying for 5 gigs uses all those 5 gigs every month (at which I would agree with you if that were the case). However, the telecos know that is the minority of people and most never get near that and hence why the prices are at where they are at. If everyone used 5gigs, they (the plans) would cost more than they do currently.

Their argument is that if one normally uses x/5 gigs on their phone, they would then use greater than x/5 gigs if they had the ability to tether as tethering enables the greater use of data use.

As they priced their plans to people using a fraction of the alotment on the whole, this "increase" due to tethering over a lot of people would indeed mean real money to the telcos.

This is not the only industry that prices like this. Meal plans at colleges are prices the same way, as are mileage allowances on leased cars, etc.
 
Spink10 said:
Try hard reset - hold down home button and power button until it resets.
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Thanks for the response. I just tried resetting my phone, but it took forever to get it to turn on again. It would be stuck on the apple logo, then it would dim the screen, then the apple logo would appear again (like 5 more times), then I finally got it to turn on.

But after I turned it on, the "jailbreak" icon that appeared when installing the firmware appeared for some reason. I deleted the icon. But Cydia still does not work. Should I just restore my phone to factory settings, install iOS 6.1, and run the jailbreak again?
 
If I jailbreak... can I run a Nintendo DS emulator on my iPad? :D I don't really care about the other stuff.
 
dukebound85 said:
Nope, you agree to pay according to their terms. That is what a contract is after all.


You assume that a user paying for 5 gigs uses all those 5 gigs every month. The telecos know that is the minority of people and most never get near that and hence why the prices are at where they are at. If everyone used 5gigs, they (the plans) would cost more than they do currently.

Their argument is that if one normally uses x/5 gigs on their phone, they would then use greater than x/5 gigs if they had the ability to tether as tethering enables the greater use of data use.

As they priced their plans to people using a fraction of the alotment on the whole, this "increase" due to tethering over a lot of people would indeed mean real money to the telcos.

This is not the only industry that prices like this. Meal plans at colleges are prices the same way, as are mileage allowances on leased cars, etc.
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Regardless, the prices are very high and to make the argument that "they priced them assuming you won't use it anyways" is insane. Verizon's prices are the same and allow for tethering.

We're all going to keep doing what we think is right and you're going to keep saying "but the fine print says this!". Let's just not even continue the argument, especially in a topic about jailbreaking, which is technically against Apple's user agreement.
 
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You folks arguing about "tethering philosophy" need to chill and take it to PM. Leave this thread to discuss evasi0n.
 
fs454 said:
Regardless, the prices are very high and to make the argument that "they priced them assuming you won't use it anyways" is insane. Verizon's prices are the same and allow for tethering.

We're all going to keep doing what we think is right and you're going to keep saying "but the fine print says this!". Let's just not even continue the argument.
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Lol I will too (have the tether app when it was on the store for this purpose)

Just I am not disillusioned in thinking I have a case against ATT if they dropped me/pursued me/etc
 
Google and Apple make me break the law?

Some of these posts make me wonder - do I break the law by using Google Voice for sending texts? Should I disable iMessage as well? I signed a contract with AT&T stating that I will pay for each message I send, but I'm not doing that. Apple and Google are my partners in crime. How is this different from free tethering?
 
dukebound85 said:
Nope, you agree to pay according to their terms. That is what a contract is after all.


You assume that a user paying for 5 gigs uses all those 5 gigs. The telecos know that is the minority of people and hence why the prices are at where they are at. If everyone used 5gigs, they (the plans) would cost more than they do.

Their argument is that if one normally uses x/5 gigs ontheir phone, they would then use >x/5 gigs if they had the ability to tether as tethering enables the greater use of data use.

As they priced their plans to people using a fraction of the alotment on the whole, this "increase" over a lot of people would indeed mean real money to the telcos.

This is not the only industry. Meal plans at colleges are prices the same way, as are mileage allowances on leased cars, etc.
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First of all, bandwidth isn't a consumable resource. Using over 5GB over the course of a month doesn't directly cost the telcos anything. The only way it directly effects anyone is that people who use more data are in the pipelines longer, and are more likely to slow down traffic during peak usage times.

Though if someone's using up all their data during the wee hours of the morning, it's costing no one anything.

Hopping on the internet is more like being on a highway for a certain amount of time than it is drawing a cup of water from a reservoir.

Plus people who use up more than their allotment are paying out the nose for the usage. In this situation, if people used up more data than the monthly allotment, it'd just mean the telcos are making that much more money. In other words, they give you 2GB a month or so for X amount of dollars, that's all you should use, regardless of if you're tethered or not. You use more, then expect to pay A LOT more on your bill for the privilege.
 
just to make sure, i am new to this.
Is this illegal? to jailbreak and use tweaks. :apple:
 
patching kernel?

evasi0n said I completed but I'm stuck on a screen that says patching kernel. It's been about 10 min. How long does this normally take?
 
iDOS?

Anyone know if iDOS is available on Cydia? I missed it during its brief time in the Apple store and would love to give it a go now.
 
Apple TV 2 Jailbreak

I thought evasi0n that came out today was suppose to be able to Jailbreak the Apple TV 2?
 
NewAnger said:
There are a few already posted in this thread.

Keep in mind that installous is no longer working but you should be able to find appsync to install apps that you have in iTunes.
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I did a search of AppSync in Cydia and nothing was returned. How do I find it?
 
If people of the British colonies in North America had not tried to evade unfair taxes, there would not have been the USA. Evad0rs are revolutionaries. Jailbreakers are rebels and patriots. Non-jailbreakers are loyalists.

Those who steal apps after they jailbreak are thieves, and thieves should be prosecuted whether they steal from the loyalists or from the patriots. There are no good thieves.

However, those who tether via a jailbroken app are not thieves. They are paying for their data, and it's their business how they want to consume the data they have paid for - on an iPhone, iPad, iPod, or computer.

AT&T already has a well known limit of 3GB per month on the "unlimited" plan. Once you hit it, you get a text notification that if you allow this to happen again, you would be throttled. If you want to change from the "unlimited" plan, AT&T enables hotspot for anyone on iOS 6.x who either has a tiered data plan with 5 GB or more, or for those who are on any "shared" data plans.

If the tyrant imposes unfair rules on using the resources you have already paid for, there's nothing wrong in fighting for your rights. It's not theft - it's a pursuit of justice.
 
a question regarding itunes.
If i jailbreak, am i still able to use itunes as i always have, installing apps, and synching?
 
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