Eve Launches First Outdoor Floodlight Camera With HomeKit Secure Video

[NightFox]

this is total Netamo design copycat

If a company's going to copy, I'd hope it would set its sights somewhat higher than Netatmo.

 

[TVreporter]

Another factor may be that HomeKit Secure Video involves uploading all that video to iCloud and Apple storing it for a period of time. They may not be in a rush to (nearly?) quadruple the storage demands on their end.

Then Apple needs to step up its Cloud storage systems - they're offering phones that shoot in 4K and rumoured 8K for the iphone 14.

 

[xpxp2002]

Then Apple needs to step up its Cloud storage systems - they're offering phones that shoot in 4K and rumoured 8K for the iphone 14.

Except that those videos count against the iCloud storage allotment. They currently offer up to 2TB. And some people have reported seeing 4TB recently, suggesting that Apple might be preparing to announce a 4TB tier or bump soon (assuming maybe at WWDC).

HKSV has no storage size limit and what is kept does not count against the iCloud limit. If you subscribe to the 2TB iCloud tier, they retain two weeks of video from unlimited cameras. That basically means you could buy an HKSV camera that records 24/7 at 1080p, and they'd have to retain two weeks of that video. That's terabytes of data, far beyond even the 2TB that the package includes for other content.

Now, imagine if they enabled 4K, or even 2K, video. They could easily end up in a situation where they have to retain tens of terabytes of data on behalf of hundreds of thousands of users for $19.99/mo (assuming that the highest tier doesn't have very high enrollment).

 

[munpip214]

Not sure why everyone is stuck on the hd vs 4K debate. It really comes down to bit rate and compression. You need to spend a lot more than $250 for a camera to have decent 4K footage. If you look at 4K streaming vs Blu-ray Disc, most of the time the disc will win in terms of quality because it has several times the bitrate. Now for camera streaming it is the same thing. If you keep the bitrate the same the 4K will end up being less quality per pixel and also less light per pixel. If you can increase bitrate you will see greatly improved image quality. Switching to hevc can help with that too. Having a 4K sensor doesn’t magically increase quality.

 

[LeadingHeat]

At 1080p I would expect it to run on batteries.

It's 2022, is 4k video too much to expect? Space is no longer an issue since 18 TB drives optimized for video capture are under $400, retail.


I'm calling this out right now. Look at this screenshot from their product page:
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There is no way this camera has the resolution to capture meaningful data 26 feet away during the day, let alone at night.

1080p is a HomeKit Secure Video bottleneck. They designed this with HKSV in mind.

 

[bedelman]

I installed the Eve Outdoor Cam over the weekend. Overall, I’m happy with it - BUT I was really unhappy that the mount assembly is NOT compatible with the standard US electrical junction box that I had behind the existing outdoor light fixture I was replacing - even though their instructions state “Eve Outdoor Cam is best installed replacing an existing outdoor light”. If only the circular mount was around an inch larger in diameter and the internal steel mounting bracket was about 1/2” longer (with the holes 1/2” farther apart), it would have been much simpler.

As it was, I was able to hack together a flat 4 inch junction box cover plate to cover the opening that was behind the existing outdoor light into which I drilled additional holes to which I could then mount the Eve Outdoor Cam. I still need to find something to then cover the corners of the cover plate that shows around the edges of the circular Eve mount cover (I have a pipe escutcheon cover coming today that I’m hoping I can use to surround the outside along the wall).

 

[mikegoldnj]

Security cameras are permanent installs. Why would you ever install one that uses batteries? They need to 'just work' for years until the one time you need them.

Because sometimes it’s not financially practical or logistically feasible to run new wiring for outlets.

 

[mikegoldnj]

not true, you can use the cameras with Homekit without Eufy base, just add them as accessories to your home

You still need the base to allow the camera connection to HomeKit, at least for the outdoor 2, 2C, etc.

 

[laszlo182]

1080p is a HomeKit Secure Video bottleneck. They designed this with HKSV in mind.

apple will allow 4k on HKSV eventually and it might be soon, why not future proof