subscription is 15$, thats not expensive. (but i see you're playing wow in another thread) dot dot dot
regardless... eve is an mmo... elite not very much so... elite is more like a game with online authentication, you will rarely meet anyone if you don't stick to systems with people in them.
eve has 7500 systems, elite has 400 billion.
there's 500,000 people subbed to eve, theres less players in elite. eve is about territorial conquest, thats impossible in elite. eve has corps (guilds) and elite does not have that. eve has a chat... local chat, corp chat, alliance chat and any other chats you want to join while elite can only chat with people you lock into.
there is an eve thread which if you decided to click the links would show you what is possible in eve, and i guess i'll repeat...
here's a list of things you can do in eve... this was made in 2011
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
now in elite... you can't do much... you also need to refuel which can get annoying when you travel many systems.
in elite you're restricted to trying to find another player and kill them, trade against npcs... not a real player economy like eve, and mining... thats about all elite offers.
in eve you can do 2000vs2000 battles now and CRAFT... elite max player in system is 35 has 0 crafting.
i can go on but based on your feedback in the eve thread it isn't worth it since you said you're more of a solo player and found eve boring. eve will be boring to you because eve is an MMO not a solo game like elite.
elite devs said you'll be able to enter planets... and eve will have project legion coming out which is fps mmo tied to eve servers.. so really you can go explore planets like a loner or play legion and kick some ass.
meh.
edit: heres the eve thread, you might want to click the links this time... and the 2nd last post in the thread shows a trailer that will make you realize how eve can be fun. and the last post i made is about project legion... its a preview
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1322365/
Thanks for this feedback! This is the kind of perspective I was looking for but you sound a little irritated. Maybe I'm just imagining that.
The purpose of this thread is not to bash Eve but to get an appraisal from those who have played both on what makes them different, pros and cons for each. It's been a while since I've visited the Eve thread. I'll go back and take another look. Thanks for providing the links. I'm actually considering starting up with Eve. The space environment is cool, but I have to have something to do in space that keeps me engaged.
Regarding subscriptions, I did sign up for a 6 month WoW subscription, but I anticipate when that's over, I'll be done with it .... Again. I'm also paying premium in World of Tanks, but you don't have to in that game if you can live with lower xp accrual. And there are other MMOs out there that I have played that require no subscription like Planetside. Do you have to buy stuff in them? Yeah maybe, but in Planetside, not that much, it was optional, you did not need it to function adequately in game. Now I've aditted I prefer no subscription, and in ED, while there must be stuff I should buy, the only thing I ve seen so far are spiffy paint jobs which I have resisted, lol.
Regarding solo versus group effort, in WoW, I function mostly solo, but I do group up for the instances, the only way that content can be experienced. But I really enjoy seeing people out and about in the world which makes it more alive. This is the attraction of a MMO.
All that said, I've been playing ED for a couple of weeks now and honestly I'm not sold on it yet as a long term game. Granted I'm just getting started, but so far it's just a grind. As I mentioned in the ED tips thread, I started with 1000c, worked up to 2300c, had some unfortunately incidents, killed twice by System Authoities and a Space Station (in that case for landing pad loitering) to find myself at 500c, but now I'm up to approx 25000c. Fortunately for the starter ship I was using, that is replaced for free.
So far the only thing to do are missions, take this or that from point A to point B. Commodity trading= hauling, mining, which honestly I don't find to be engaging, or go bounty hunting which I'm still figuring out the most efficient way to do that. All in all, besides the wonder of navigating a galaxie and interacting with space stations, dogfighting seems to be the primary attraction.
For a newb, missions are a great way to get familiar with the game, the mechanics of interacting, launching, docking, etc. Navigating the universe is cool for a while, and I even got interdicted by a pirate, making a 5500 bounty off him. But honestly, if this is all there is to do, haul stuff and dogfight, I improbably won't be sticking with ED long term. Don't get me wrong, dogfighting is fun, but I've done all the combat tutorials, but the pirate interdiction seemed ro be eerily similar to the combat tutorials. Yes, so far, I can hold my own in fights. However, I'm quaking a bit, thinking about fighting a human who has learned all the ins and outs of Flight Assist off flying.
Could you describe how combat works in Eve? I probably asked this in the Eve thread, but I've forgotten the answer. I'll try to go back and I review it again. My understanding is that there is not that much maneuvering, but there are choices about how to manage your systems. Instead of maneuvering to put the pepper on the target and squeeze thrpe trigger, you function more like the Captain of a star ship directing his crew on what systems to bear on the enemy.
For the mechanics of flying/maneuvering, in ED I feel the need for a stick. I assume a joystick is not required for Eve. Thanks for your opinions!
