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a classic case of not understanding the context because the review makes it clear that honeycomb does not have quad-core support hence all the tests that they ran in the review used only 2 cores. ICS is required quad-core use and Asus has promised that it will be supported once ICS is official.

i'm kinda impressed that the Prime scores extremely close to the ipad2 in terms of battery life without even running the Prime in its most power-efficient state.

The testing that the Verge did gave iPad 2 about 8 hours and the Transformer Prime 4-5 hours.
 
The testing that the Verge did gave iPad 2 about 8 hours and the Transformer Prime 4-5 hours.

The review was also by Joanna Stern, arguably one of the most unbiased tech reviewer. I usually trust her reviews over anything else.
 
My iPad with iOS 5 gives me random program closures, web pages that sometimes take forever to open, safari force closing.
And don't say it's my iPad.
My wife's does the same thing.

So let's not pretend the iPad is flawless.

Agreed. I like my ipad and my android tablet. Neither is flawless and it seems silly to pretend that one is.
 
My iPad with iOS 5 gives me random program closures, web pages that sometimes take forever to open, safari force closing.
And don't say it's my iPad.
My wife's does the same thing.

So let's not pretend the iPad is flawless.

I can attest to that - just today I was using Airplay to stream music to ATV2 and using the iPad2 for other tasks - the music stuttered at least 5 times before I went to my MBP and played it from there. I also routinely get program crashes (mSafari included) and low memory conditions are dime a dozen.

I got suckered into believing that iPad was somehow panacea - it is still better than Honeycomb when it works but that's not saying much.
 
My 600MHz Android phone (over clocked to 787MHz) is way more fluid and way less laggy than my iPod touch 4th gen.

It really is all about the manufacturer's crapware living on top of Android. Im running straight Android Gingerbread (CyanogenMod 7) and its quick, smooth, and rock solid.

Touchwiz, Motoblur, Sense, and all those other interfaces give Android a bad name.

I disagree the iPod touch my wife has runs like smooth as can be. CyanogenMod7 helps but it still lags and not as smooth as IOS. ICS is a bigger step for Android but it still does not solve all the other huge problems. Like people stuck on 2.1 with six month old hardware.

You should not have to root, rom, and tweak your phone to make it work.lol
 
Like people stuck on 2.1 with six month old hardware.

You have any examples? All 6 month old hardware is on 2.3 (majority) and 2.2 (minority). Considering that 2.3 is the latest version of Android, I would say it's a very good statistic.

Current Android Version chart showing 2.1 has 9.6% of all of Android devices. And absolute latest version is dominating

http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html

I am not counting ICS, since it's not 100% officially out. And please, try to get your facts straight before the post.
 
You have any examples? All 6 month old hardware is on 2.3 (majority) and 2.2 (minority). Considering that 2.3 is the latest version of Android, I would say it's a very good statistic.

Current Android Version chart showing 2.1 has 9.6% of all of Android devices. And absolute latest version is dominating

http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html

I am not counting ICS, since it's not 100% officially out. And please, try to get your facts straight before the post.

Ever heard of ZTE phones? May be small here but they are plentiful in China (Biggest Mobile Carrier in the world is in China BTW).

Not to mention my Girlfriends 1 year old Samsung Galaxy Phone they still have not updated.

Also the chart you have shown is based off of API plugged in devices. You do realize millions of smart phones and tablets are not plugged into the Googles API right?

Sounds like you may need to do some reading.

But what do you expect from manufactures like LG and Samsung that make TVs and other Electronics that when the product is flawed or needs an update they want you to buy a new one.
 
Ever heard of ZTE phones? May be small here but they are plentiful in China (Biggest Mobile Carrier in the world is in China BTW).

Not to mention my Girlfriends 1 year old Samsung Galaxy Phone they still have not updated.

Also the chart you have shown is based off of API plugged in devices. You do realize millions of smart phones and tablets are not plugged into the Googles API right?

Sounds like you may need to do some reading.

But what do you expect from manufactures like LG and Samsung that make TVs and other Electronics that when the product is flawed or needs an update they want you to buy a new one.

Ever heard of this little handset called Galaxy Nexus? It's made by Samsung. And 1st on Ice Cream Sandwich. LG also committed to ICS. Galaxy S updating to 2.3 as we speak. And I believe Samsung is #3 manufacturer of smartphones (behind Apple and HTC), so do not say that they are just a tv manufacturer.
 
Ever heard of this little handset called Galaxy Nexus? It's made by Samsung. And 1st on Ice Cream Sandwich. LG also committed to ICS. Galaxy S updating to 2.3 as we speak. And I believe Samsung is #3 manufacturer of smartphones (behind Apple and HTC), so do not say that they are just a tv manufacturer.

The Nexus S is a Google Developer phones so yes they have the OS first. What about the Fascinate or Continuum? Took a year to get the Fascinate to Froyo after Samsung lied about releasing it within three months of launch. The Continuum is still waiting for Froyo still stuck on Eclair. Not to mention both phones are and we're stuck on Bing search. LG don't get me started.

My point is these manufacturers don't care about updating old hardware. They value engineer products to last a short lifespan so you buy another one. Ever wonder why it is almost impossible to repair HDTVs? Because they do not want you too.

Where did I say they are just a TV manufacturer? Can you read the whole sentence? FYI Samsung is broken up in multiple divisions and mobile is not their largest by a longshot.
 
Funnily, the same thing was said prior to Honeycomb's release. Personally, I'm waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich with rainbow sprinkles.
I don't know much about that, but Ice Cream Sandwich does actually support GPU accelerated UI. The reviews of it have mentioned the UI is much more fluid now, unlike Honeycomb.
 
My point is these manufacturers don't care about updating old hardware. They value engineer products to last a short lifespan so you buy another one.

Kind of like Apple, who leaves out features from iOS on older devices.
 
The Nexus S is a Google Developer phones so yes they have the OS first. What about the Fascinate or Continuum? Took a year to get the Fascinate to Froyo after Samsung lied about releasing it within three months of launch. The Continuum is still waiting for Froyo still stuck on Eclair. Not to mention both phones are and we're stuck on Bing search. LG don't get me started.

My point is these manufacturers don't care about updating old hardware. They value engineer products to last a short lifespan so you buy another one. Ever wonder why it is almost impossible to repair HDTVs? Because they do not want you too.

Where did I say they are just a TV manufacturer? Can you read the whole sentence? FYI Samsung is broken up in multiple divisions and mobile is not their largest by a longshot.

Thiiiiiiiiis. Look at the first paragraph. That will be you. I've been there before, with 4 Android phones. One of them was even the Nexus One. It didn't get Gingerbread for months. Did you hear that? Even the Google phone didn't get updated for awhile. We were told it'd come "in the coming weeks"

Don't listen to anyone that will try and convince you that 1. this is okay, or 2. the problem doesn't exist. If you buy an Android phone (especially in the U.S.), buy under the assumption that you will NEVER get an update.
 
There is a difference between a 3GS not getting an iOS5 feature and not getting iOS5 at all.

Really? I am on 4.3 on my iPad, and wondering what's in iOS 5 that's really worth it? Cloud, twitter, newsstand? That's it? Cloud is a big one. Others are minor.

So, maybe Google should release "2.3 Neutered edition" for older devices? Apple seems to be quite content with doing just that.
 
I'm holding out for Jello Pudding Pop.

J-E-L-L-O!

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I had a htc desire which lagged with htc sense on it, but didn't lag after I rooted it and installed a custom rom.

I have a Samsung galaxy s2 which never lags..I think it's lagged about twice in the two months I've owned it.

I don't know why people think Android lags..it never has for me.
 
You have any examples? All 6 month old hardware is on 2.3 (majority) and 2.2 (minority). Considering that 2.3 is the latest version of Android, I would say it's a very good statistic.

Current Android Version chart showing 2.1 has 9.6% of all of Android devices. And absolute latest version is dominating

http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html

I am not counting ICS, since it's not 100% officially out. And please, try to get your facts straight before the post.

WRONG. Android 2.3.3 - Android 2.3.7 =/= 2.3.7.

Google grouped 5 versions of firmware together for a reason. Because most people are not using 2.3.7.
 
Really? I am on 4.3 on my iPad, and wondering what's in iOS 5 that's really worth it? Cloud, twitter, newsstand? That's it? Cloud is a big one. Others are minor.

So, maybe Google should release "2.3 Neutered edition" for older devices? Apple seems to be quite content with doing just that.


Neutered? Android works crappy no matter how much CPU power you have. Thats the point of this thread get it? And I am not saying anything bad about ICS because its not 100% out and I have not reviewed it. But it does look so far good.

Maybe you should use IOS5 on your device and see instead of being an Arm Chair Quarterback. IO 5 is offers Faster Browsing and a more robust safari interface (Tabs and Syncs to my desktop Safari). Updated notification system, iMessage, Advanced gesture control (which I love), iCloud (which you mentioned), To Do Lists built in, Wifi Sync (Huge), Split keyboard, and I could go on and on. And I thank Android for giving Apple the motivation for the Wifi Sync and Notification system.

Best part is if you don't want to update, don't. But you have the option to Update (not on Android) and if you don't that is okay because Apple designed it so it works great either way. Best part no Fragmentation.

Sell you iPad if you hate your iPad so much. Give someone the chance to appreciate it and not whine.

I don't hate Android or think badly of it. But up until now I do not think it was a OS for the masses. Hackers and Tweakers Android does not get any better. Come on its Linux on a phone!
 
I can attest to that - just today I was using Airplay to stream music to ATV2 and using the iPad2 for other tasks - the music stuttered at least 5 times before I went to my MBP and played it from there. I also routinely get program crashes (mSafari included) and low memory conditions are dime a dozen.

I got suckered into believing that iPad was somehow panacea - it is still better than Honeycomb when it works but that's not saying much.

I have no problem djing from an iPad from 50+ feet away at an event. Never stutters. Never crashes.


My iPad with iOS 5 gives me random program closures, web pages that sometimes take forever to open, safari force closing.
And don't say it's my iPad.
My wife's does the same thing.

So let's not pretend the iPad is flawless.

Not normal. Contact Apple for support.
 
WRONG. Android 2.3.3 - Android 2.3.7 =/= 2.3.7.

Google grouped 5 versions of firmware together for a reason. Because most people are not using 2.3.7.

They group it by API levels. New API level = new functionality. New version on same API level = bug fix.
 
My iPad with iOS 5 gives me random program closures, web pages that sometimes take forever to open, safari force closing.
And don't say it's my iPad.
My wife's does the same thing.

So let's not pretend the iPad is flawless.
sounds to me like that has more to do with your internet service provider or your router, more than the iPad.
 
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