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Everything Apple Announced at Today's 'Hello Again' Mac Event in Under Four Minutes

4 minutes is a little long isn't it? I did enjoy the tv app announcement but the demo could have been summed up in about 30 seconds "hey check it out we made a netflix interface that pulls all available content, it's now actually easy to watch something on the apple tv".
 
TheFluffyDuck said:
Does it still have DLL hell? Does it still have a registry? Does it still have every second port open? Is the built in firewall still useless, or worse a hinderance? Does it still have a million and one active Viruses, malware and spyware? Is it still built on layer, after layer, after layer of legacy obsolescence dating as far back as the early 90's? Is its system/administrator permissions still back the front? Do I have to reinstall the OS twice a year because it slows to a halt? Do I still have to set aside a little time each week to keep drivers up to date, virus definitions, gigabytes of windows updates that take over your whole computer while doing it. Is it still all those things? Yes, Yes I think it still is.


Under the hood its junk, its only saving grace is DirectX. Unless Microsoft pulls what apple did 16 years ago and start again from scratch I am not interested.
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I'll answer your nonsense since other's haven't

  1. Does it still have DLL hell?
No. Windows still uses DLL's, but sicne Windows 7 and onwards, DLL's are managed by the OS much better. Cleaned up better, and those who are "orphaned", which only happens if you delete programs incorrectly, do not get loaded or cause issues.

2. Does it still have a registry?
Yes, But window registry problems stopped in Windows XP. if you've used Windows 7 or newer, you will never have to deal with the registry.

3. Does it still have every second port open?
No. Windows Firewall in Windows 8 and 10 has been much improved. And unlike OSx, Comes enabled by default, with a much more robust set of rules enabled by default.

4. Does it still have a million and one active Viruses, malware and spyware?
no. Windows Virus and Malware has taken a nosedive in recent years. Windows also ships, by default with virus scanner enabled that receives regular security updates and patches via windows updates. OSx is still less prone to viruses due to it's un*x underpinnings, but it's still vulnerable. There are just significantly less OSx based attacks since there's also a significantly smaller number of OSx users out there that it's not as easy a target to hit.

5. Is it still built on layer, after layer, after layer of legacy obsolescence dating as far back as the early 90's?
No. Windows 8/10 threw away a lot of legacy and was rebuilt from the ground up.

6. Is its system/administrator permissions still back the front?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. "back to front?". care to elaborate?

7. Do I have to reinstall the OS twice a year because it slows to a halt?
no. While a problem in the past with Windows XP and earlier, Windows 7, 8 and 10 have much much improved self cleaning and performance. You can go years without ever needing to re-install windows now without any performance degradation. Should you chose to re-install frequently (because you're a sadist), there are more options now than just "full rebuild". Windows now has options to rebuild itself without wiping data or other application through repair if you so desire.

8. Do I still have to set aside a little time each week to keep drivers up to date, virus definitions, gigabytes of windows updates that take over your whole computer while doing it.
Windows update takes care of the core driver support and you will never need to go out and find 3rd party drivers of your own if you don't want. Many of us DO because we like having the latest, greatest, most up to date day by day drivers for performance in games, but it's entirely unnecessary. Windows 10 has pretty damn good Driver support for probably 95% of all the hardware thats out there. You can in most cases install windows 10, let it chose the drivers, and never ever touch them yourself/

your knowledge of Windows and it's underpinnings is about 13 years out of date. A lot of the issues you have named here are related back to the Windows XP or earlier era of Windows, which had it's share of monstrous problems. These are almost all, if not completely been remedied for most users.

I'm not trying to convince you to switch. users will use what they're most comfortable in, and there's nothing wrong with it. But at least update your knowledge to keep up with the current decade :p


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As for the 2016 MBpro's. Ok, I dig the overall. These look like Fantastic laptops. I sort of want one. I'm perfectly fine with the move to USB-C ports as all it'll take for me is replacing a few cables (USB-A to micro will now be USB-C to micro).

But the keyboard. They have pretty much lost me with the keyboard.

no ESC key on the keyboard is a huge knock against. Most of my workday is spent in VIM. use VIM without an easy to find, consistently in same location, ESC key that I can hit without looking.

and the short travel scissor keys are not to my liking at all. Tried it on the MacBook and it was an absolutely painful, terrible typing experience for me. If the key travel and feel is the same, it's a non-starter immediately. That keyboard alone will lose me as a sale.

then the price hike. $2300 starting price in Canada is too rich for me. There is far too much competition for 'pro" laptops for me to pay that much, and sacrifice ESC key and use that keyboard.

Otherwise, This is a gorgous laptop. Not exactly "revolutionary" like they tried to claim at the keynote. But a good laptop
 
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elmaco said:
Compare yesterday's presentation with how the Mac Air was presented.

Where is the excitement? Where is the revolution? Where is the joy and playfulness
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That was an amazing keynote! I remember watching it. I'm re-watching, and in just under 5 minutes I feel like Steve really cares about his customers. I think there is a stark difference between Steve and Tim. Steve really wanted to make a difference in his customer's lives, and do his part to change the world. I don't get that vibe from Tim. He seems less visionary, and more about doing what is best for the shareholders. It's a tragic change in philosophy that has altered the company fundamentally into a corporation that is certainly less appealing. :(
 
I don't mind the prices as much as I mind the lack of functionality.
-No USBs
-GPU gaming is probably going to be on the level of PS3 (10 year old performance)
-256GB storage what a joke, I can't believe this :D
-no SD card
-No ethernet, which you need to do router firmware updates
- trackpad wider than the palm rest, not sure if good or bad thing
 
They all looked a little embarrassed yesterday and so they should be. That much profit and all the give back to their users is a price hike and old tech. And that idiotic little emoji strip to take your intention from what you're working on. Load of crap.
 
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Apple's greatest days for the Mac are truly over.
Just look at the lack of enthusiasm and 'killer Pro' features for a Pro computer. Certainly not worth the wait for the lack of updates. Actually, the Mac Mini, iMac and Mac Pro are still pending for an update. That's ridiculous!
Take a page from Microsoft, Apple. Look at the passion and enthusiasm from Panos Panay who drives the Surface division.
Look at that Surface Studio reveal video.

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The last two stories I have read have a distinct lack of fanboys sticking up for them, unheard of.
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lowkey said:
Here in Australia the prices in the Mac Store are expensive. Base level 15" touchbar model with 256SSD is $3599. For the 2.7i7 512GB model it's $4249. That's really getting up there and would be out of the price range that many could afford. Base level 13" touchbar model is $2699. For students that's a pretty big ask.

If they could have squeezed a quad core i7 into the 13" I think it would be the perfect machine for me and I'd sell my existing 12"MB and 15"MBP to buy the 13". But alas.

Otherwise I like the design. But the decision not to go with USBC on the iPhone now looks even crazier. Can't connect an iPhone to a MBP and can't share headphones between the two...
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And with competitors you can haggle on the price.
 
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Innovation is gone. Cook has doubled revenues and done great things for the shareholders - but the magic is gone. How long it remains this way and whether or not they can out-innovate before losing too much market share will be the ultimate test of time. Cash on hand doesn't buy innovation.
 
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My personal summary - pro/desktop users received (another) spit in our faces.

I'm switching back to real computers. It was an expensive 10 year experiment.
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And yet I can't switch to windows, becoase of ethics. I remember when we used the os that did what we wanted, or that worked the best. I guess the 00's are truly over.
 
I'm late here, late as I always am. Whatever, I'll say something about a minor disappointment. I was waiting for the most economic options to have an upgrade. I would have wanted a new Mac Mini for me to come back to the Apple side again. For many people living in far poorer countries (and also for many people living on a budget elsewhere), a new Mac Mini would help us to cross the bridge. It'd be great for some old users that had, for one reason or another, moved to the Windows side and also for some new users as well. Most of us already have a monitor, a keyboard, a mouse, and other peripherals.

In my opinion, of course.
 
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