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Everything Apple Announced at Today's 'Hello Again' Mac Event in Under Four Minutes
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Wow, I had such little hope for this announcement... I kept telling myself it is going to be bad, don't get excited... I actually even managed to forget about the event entirely. Despite all of that, I am still amazingly underwhelmed... WTF is this!? I can no longer in good faith recommend Apple computers to family, which is a shame because my wife is ready for a new laptop... but she is going to use it for photo editing, so the 13" is a non starter. $2.4k entry point? It's hard not to laugh. 
Get her a loaded XPS 15".Wow, I had such little hope for this announcement... I kept telling myself it is going to be bad, don't get excited... I actually even managed to forget about the event entirely. Despite all of that, I am still amazingly underwhelmed... WTF is this!? I can no longer in good faith recommend Apple computers to family, which is a shame because my wife is ready for a new laptop... but she is going to use it for photo editing, so the 13" is a non starter. $2.4k entry point? It's hard not to laugh.
Which is what I do. Don't do desktop machines since 5 years ago.
The more I read and think about this presentation and what the MBPs are like now, the more I actually get upset.
One shouldn't care that much, but I like to work with a good MBP. These are not it!
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Donald Cook at his finest!
At this point going out of their way to irritate the vast majority of mac users. It wouldn't have taken very much for them to convince me to sell my current mac and buy the new refresh, but they decided that, instead of enticing me, it would be more enjoyable to make the world's most tech/spec conflicted, overpriced laptop. Even by Apple's recent standards, that's impressive. Once my current mac dies, it is unlikely I get another if this offering is still the latest and "greatest". I used to be the biggest mac fan, too. Good grief. Next will be the iPoisonPill.
If all you use computers for are what I'd call "appliance uses" (gaming, surfin' da web, email, facebook, and so on) yeah, moaning about what Apple has just done is a bit much. However, there are a lot of us for which computers are used, and often HEAVILY used, in what we do to make a living. The fact that the company on which you've bet the farm in terms of providing the tools you need to survive appears to be turning into a clueless toy-maker then becomes a real sphincter tightener of an event.
It's not like there are a lot of good options other than Apple. There's Linux and Windows. I've used both a lot in my life, and I went to Apple in the 2004 time frame because OS X was finally mature enough that I could flee the time-sinks that the other OS's were/are. I'm hoping I can reach something like retirement before my existing old Apple hardware dies. I may try a Hackintosh if I get desperate, but given all the ways Apple tries to make that more and more difficult I see that as less viable than going back to living with Linux.
Well actually he has to say that because Apple has been known to go backwards. Most Pro users will tell you that the trash can Pro was a step backwards and we all know what happened with the last Mac Mini update.
So... no courage this time? The headphone jack is still there; on the new scrapbook's shy touch screen wanna be.
As always, they don't admit they're wrong. People around the word like and buy, notebooks with a touch screen. They jump in with a tiny panel, just to look cool. New users, early adopters; start to practice... looking up, looking down (repeat often). With this piece of medical hardware, you'll exercise more you're eyes. Maybe it's a feature to make you more healthy!
This is the last keynote I watch. I just can't stand those obnoxious tools; they must suffer of autism.
As always, they don't admit they're wrong. People around the word like and buy, notebooks with a touch screen. They jump in with a tiny panel, just to look cool. New users, early adopters; start to practice... looking up, looking down (repeat often). With this piece of medical hardware, you'll exercise more you're eyes. Maybe it's a feature to make you more healthy!
This is the last keynote I watch. I just can't stand those obnoxious tools; they must suffer of autism.
So, let's get this straight — This is a multi-billion dollar company that can't seem to design anything that isn't thin. Beauty is subjective but function is how jobs are done. They are hung-up on the former. Dongles and Mickey Mouse virtual buttons don't cut it. Apple management has spent a fortune on toy head phones, it has dropped Heaven knows how much on designing a car, it can't seem to advance phone technology (If Samsung hadn't crashed and burned Apple would have been sorely outclassed again!), the Watch is a product in search of usefulness, then there is the dropping and dumbing-down of all the pro apps, the space ship headquarters — and on and on! Add all this to no new MacPro, MacMini, or monitor and you have to really wonder if anyone at Apple is really at the helm. Get some new blood — soon!
Apple hosted its "Hello Again" Mac event this morning, where it debuted a newly redesigned MacBook Pro with an integrated "Touch Bar" panel that supports multi-touch and a range of gestures to unlock new capabilities in apps.
Much of the event was actually spent covering existing features, demoing the Touch Bar, and highlighting Apple TV capabilities, allowing us to condense the full 82 minute presentation into four minutes. If you missed Apple's keynote, our recap is a great way to get caught up without having to invest an hour and a half.
Apple's new MacBook Pro models feature a thinner, lighter body, better battery life, upgraded processors, improved displays, and the aforementioned Touch Bar, but all that innovation comes at a price, which has many customers disappointed. Apple is charging $1,799 in the United States for the entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro model with a Touch Bar, and the 15-inch MacBook Pro models start at $2,399.
While the MacBook Pro was the main highlight of the event, Apple also introduced a new Accessibility site, 4K and 5K monitors from LG, a new Apple TV app that serves as a TV guide to help users find what to watch. For a more in-depth look at everything that's new today, make sure to check our full event recap post.
Article Link: Everything Apple Announced at Today's 'Hello Again' Mac Event in Under Four Minutes
I know. It's actually pretty funny. If they don't like it, nobody is forcing them to buy it. Refurbished Macs are starting to pop up
Honestly I would say they shouldn't have dedicated an event for just one product but all in all, we got a new MacBook Pro. It is more powerful, awesome Touch Bar with Touch ID, and paving the way of the future with USB-C which is arguably better than the older ports.
With each iteration they make them thinner. One day they might actually disappear. Thinner and thinner and POOF, they're invisible.
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So how do you charge you iPhone / iPad ? Guess that then another dongle to the collection as truly mobile or?
Correct me if I'm wrong you go buy an iPhone 7 and the new MBP. First thing you need to buy is a dongle to charge you phone and you need to buy another dongle which is is 3.5mm jack to lighting so you can use the headset there comes with the iPhone. Not really thought through when two product are released with a few months from each other.
I guess the reason they the new MBP is smaller. It's because you need the space in your computer bag for all the dongles!!
So clever space management after all from Apple.
Touch Bar, looks cool, but nothing I would imagine be using especially not as my current MBP is connected to a 23" monitor and I have a Magic Keyboard and mouse so anything than handy.
Prices, well Apple never been low cost products, but I'm working on a mid 2012 MBP retina and often 10hours+ every day and it works like a charm. So if that is the price of a working horse so be it, all I need i durability nothing else. Could not care if it 5mm thinner or 1/2lbs lighter. Now I do hate all the dongles, but get they will disappear over time when accessories get updated.
Correct me if I'm wrong you go buy an iPhone 7 and the new MBP. First thing you need to buy is a dongle to charge you phone and you need to buy another dongle which is is 3.5mm jack to lighting so you can use the headset there comes with the iPhone. Not really thought through when two product are released with a few months from each other.
I guess the reason they the new MBP is smaller. It's because you need the space in your computer bag for all the dongles!!
So clever space management after all from Apple.
Touch Bar, looks cool, but nothing I would imagine be using especially not as my current MBP is connected to a 23" monitor and I have a Magic Keyboard and mouse so anything than handy.
Prices, well Apple never been low cost products, but I'm working on a mid 2012 MBP retina and often 10hours+ every day and it works like a charm. So if that is the price of a working horse so be it, all I need i durability nothing else. Could not care if it 5mm thinner or 1/2lbs lighter. Now I do hate all the dongles, but get they will disappear over time when accessories get updated.
You'd have to ask Apple, they've been making a habit of it lately.
I think this is just their way of reassuring us, even when it's not true.
Sorry, that just doesn't wash. Apps I have HEAVILY used over the years professionally include Matlab (with various toolboxes), InDesign, Lightroom, Photoshop, FCPX, Excel, Numbers, PowerPoint, Keynote, Logic Pro, Slugline, and likely more not coming to mind right at this moment.
Are you saying today's announced MacBook Pros with the latest i7 CPU, TB 3/USB-C, SSD, fast RAM, and brand new DCI-P3 wide gamut display, etc would not be powerful enough to run any of the above applications for those working in a "professional" environment? And these laptops instead would be rightly categorized, as you suggest, devices from a toy-maker?
If so, tell me why with specifics.
Great hardware, but the price is too high. And they justify it by keeping the base model with the same price. Smooth /s
But the Thunderbolt/USB C combo jack is downright confusing. What about the old Thunderbolt port, they ditch it? What kind of hardware will run Thunderbolt with USB-C port? Would it run on a USB-C port without Thunderbolt? reading that sentence alone is already confusing.
And what about the 3.5mm jack? I thought Apple already hate it so much they replace it with Lightning headphones. But now it's there again on the MBP?
And how if I want to charge my iPhone with the new MBP? I have to carry around dongles and adapters?
Where is the old Apple I love with its simplicity and coherence between hardware? Why is it so hard to like Apple nowadays?
But the Thunderbolt/USB C combo jack is downright confusing. What about the old Thunderbolt port, they ditch it? What kind of hardware will run Thunderbolt with USB-C port? Would it run on a USB-C port without Thunderbolt? reading that sentence alone is already confusing.
And what about the 3.5mm jack? I thought Apple already hate it so much they replace it with Lightning headphones. But now it's there again on the MBP?
And how if I want to charge my iPhone with the new MBP? I have to carry around dongles and adapters?
Where is the old Apple I love with its simplicity and coherence between hardware? Why is it so hard to like Apple nowadays?
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I am really happy with my current Macbook, but the new standard spec Macbooks prices are crazy! You can get a "15 HP Envy with similar specs for $1300, where as the Mac is $2799. I can see a price premium to some degree, but I think they are absolutely pricing themselves out of the market. As many have said, we use these machines to get actual work done--Arbitrarily switching ports alone is enough to piss people off without being forced to pay double for commodity hardware. MacOS is awesome, and it is still better (IMO) in handling media, and several pro apps at once than Windows. I love the fact that it doesn't spy on me and has the stability of Unix, and I don't have the "rot" issues Windows develops after a few years.
I don't see how they think these will sell at these higher prices. At the price they are asking I would expect a real performance item like a 1TB NVME SSD as a standard part.
I have a copy of Windows 10 I still haven't installed. I don't like the way MS is using a continuous release model. I'm sure we will see many broken machines with Win10 machines become common.
or tweet. I'm not crazy about junk mail
way thumbs up on this. I was a designer for many years and worked for mcclatchy, Gannett, pioneer and yellow book. All of them used macs. Most of my friends are designers and photographers who also use macs (not laptops) and these are people who are trying to make a living and Mac has pretty much thumbed their nose at an entire industry. I know everyone is going to say that everyone is using laptops. Well the designers and photographers I know aren't.
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You mean Gollum and his iRing
Haha, don't get me started about Aperture! Lightroom and Capture One are both OK, but Aperture was a great program.
Apple new computer can't be connected to the apple new phone without dancing around and shopping for dongles. Where is the common sense? Also SD card was sooo handy.
What a extremely boring and disappointing event.
So, they just added a gimmick bar that it's not going to get much use, to be honest, and they skyrocket the price...
And on top of that no iMac, no Mac Mini, no Mac Pro...
Was there even a need for an event at all? They just ashamed themselves. So I guess I'm not expending any money on Apple products for the foreseeable future.
Oh man, I'm so disappointed and even angry...
Shame on you Apple. You have lost everything that made you special.
So, they just added a gimmick bar that it's not going to get much use, to be honest, and they skyrocket the price...
And on top of that no iMac, no Mac Mini, no Mac Pro...
Was there even a need for an event at all? They just ashamed themselves. So I guess I'm not expending any money on Apple products for the foreseeable future.
Oh man, I'm so disappointed and even angry...
Shame on you Apple. You have lost everything that made you special.
$5k++ AUD for a decked out MBP? That is stupid! I can get a far, FAR more powerful desktop for less than half that, plus buy a HTC vive, plus have enough left over to get a similar spec laptop to the 2015 MBP model and hackintosh it. You know what I might just do that. No fancy bar is worth $1-2k markup.
We should have seen this coming when they dropped Xservers. I wish Tim Cook will bugger off somewhere else. He is killing the mac (on purpose) because iPhone is his baby.
I really REALLY dont want to use windows again. It is horrible in every way, but I am seeing little choice.
We should have seen this coming when they dropped Xservers. I wish Tim Cook will bugger off somewhere else. He is killing the mac (on purpose) because iPhone is his baby.
I really REALLY dont want to use windows again. It is horrible in every way, but I am seeing little choice.