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Everything Apple Announced During Monday's 'Scary Fast' Event
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It was a such a boring event - until AAA games become a thing on Mac OS then there’s nothing to see. Interesting that the GPU improvements are being angled at AI.
I was asking about the specs, not the video.Sure...
Apple Event - October 30 - YouTube
...perhaps you missed the fine print in my previous post...
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I clearly saw both M1 and M2 graphic comparisons throughout the presentation
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I have since seen the MR recap with showed the speed gains. I just find it so odd that Apple would make comparisons to 2G old tech.
😯 My brother from another mother! 🤩Could you have some dreams about market competitive RAM and SSD pricing? Please!
Could you have a dream about a Snow Leopard year or two to get macOS back to mostly "just works"?
Could you have a dream about an upcoming lotto drawing and then PM'ing me those winning numbers?
The M1 single core speeds were all nearly the same for all four versions. There was about a 10% increase in the average single core speeds across the four M2 versions. No real enticement to upgrade to the M2 series. Memory capacity in the upper M2 models went up 50% (64GB to 96GB as an example).
I predicted that the max memory in the top M3 models would increment in similar fashion so my 14" laptop model will have had the opportunity for 64GB then 96GB and now 128GB of ram. The largest Apple installed SSD is still 8TB with a $2,200 adder across the three generations. By contrast, external 8TB SSD prices have significantly fallen. Perhaps the average single core speeds may have increased 10% going to the M3. That would be 20% increase over the M1 average speeds. But since the comparisons were to the M1 instead of the M2, there might not be that much of a gain in average single core speeds.
WiFi 6 has finally become WiFi 6E and Bluetooth has gone from v5 to v5.3.
There has been no video screen improvements across the three generations. So perhaps the carrot for the M4 will include micro-led screens? The weights are within a few ounces across three generations.
I am casually thinking about the 16" MBPro because I could make the letters bigger on the larger screen while displaying the same information I now have on my 14" screen. The reviews in the next few weeks will flesh out the pertinent details and illustrate whether there are real or just verbal marketing increases in real world numbers for the M3 family of processors.
In some ways, the M family has Apple boxed in. I hope they are working on a new successor family of chips because I think there is a limit to die downsizing.
I predicted that the max memory in the top M3 models would increment in similar fashion so my 14" laptop model will have had the opportunity for 64GB then 96GB and now 128GB of ram. The largest Apple installed SSD is still 8TB with a $2,200 adder across the three generations. By contrast, external 8TB SSD prices have significantly fallen. Perhaps the average single core speeds may have increased 10% going to the M3. That would be 20% increase over the M1 average speeds. But since the comparisons were to the M1 instead of the M2, there might not be that much of a gain in average single core speeds.
WiFi 6 has finally become WiFi 6E and Bluetooth has gone from v5 to v5.3.
There has been no video screen improvements across the three generations. So perhaps the carrot for the M4 will include micro-led screens? The weights are within a few ounces across three generations.
I am casually thinking about the 16" MBPro because I could make the letters bigger on the larger screen while displaying the same information I now have on my 14" screen. The reviews in the next few weeks will flesh out the pertinent details and illustrate whether there are real or just verbal marketing increases in real world numbers for the M3 family of processors.
In some ways, the M family has Apple boxed in. I hope they are working on a new successor family of chips because I think there is a limit to die downsizing.
It's not harsh, it's just wrong. How do you go from "using a desktop" (let's say 2018 Mini) office apps, spreadsheets, web search, folder & file management, 24-32 inch display for large workspace, and then say you could do that on a calculator? Nonsense.
I wish, I ain’t in control of it tho lol.Could you have some dreams about market competitive RAM and SSD pricing? Please!
Could you have a dream about a Snow Leopard year or two to get macOS back to mostly "just works"?
Could you have a dream about an upcoming lotto drawing and then PM'ing me those winning numbers?
Probably will be closer to 100x by then.
But, in fairness to Apple here. There are still customers using Intel Macs and Apple is trying to get them to upgrade to Apple Silicon machines. Spelling out just how massive an improvement it is helps to sell to those hold outs. The Intel processors Apple used had laughably bad iGPUs that I would never have considered under any circumstance. I always bought a discrete GPU system because the iGPUs were trash.
Those are good points. I also thought this was weird, as well as the comparisons to Intel, which is even older in the product line.
It could be that they are targeting the consumers most likely to purchase new M3s....those of us with Intels or M1s.
Absolutely when it comes to software. Apples hardware is advanced but the software does not take advantage of this. Especially on the iPad.
Yeah, just about everyone that talked seemed so ... unexcited. It was dull but informative.
They reminded me of kids reading their book reports in the 6th grade but zero animation. I have seen Christmas store window manikins look more lively and enthusiastic .
Apple's "Scary Fast" 5:00 p.m. Pacific Time event was over in the blink of an eye, but if you missed it because of the unusual time, we have a quick overview of everything that Apple announced. If you want to watch the video in full, it only lasted a half an hour, because all Apple introduced was the new M3-series chips in MacBook Pro machines and iMacs.
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We've recapped everything that you need to know in this super quick video you can watch before bed or catch in the morning, and we've also rounded up our coverage of the event.
MacBook Pro
iMac
- Apple Announces New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With M3 Series Chips
- Apple Unveils New Space Black MacBook Pro Color for M3 Pro and M3 Max
- New M3 MacBook Pro and iMac Models Now Available for Purchase
- Apple's New MacBooks With M3 Chips Offer Up to 22 Hours of Battery Life
- 16-Inch M3 Max MacBook Pro Now Costs $7,200 With All Upgrades
- New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pros Feature 20% Brighter Displays
Everything Else
The M3 iMac and MacBook Pro models can be ordered now, with the first orders set to ship out to customers next week. The M3 and M3 Pro machines will be available immediately, while M3 Max machines will ship out later in November.
- Apple Event Live Blog: MacBook Pro and iMac Updated With New M3 Chip Family
- Apple Discontinues 13-Inch MacBook Pro With Touch Bar
- Magic Keyboard, Magic Trackpad, and Magic Mouse Still Feature Lightning Instead of USB-C
- Apple's USB-C to MagSafe 3 Cable Now Available to Order in Space Black
Article Link: Everything Apple Announced During Monday's 'Scary Fast' Event
The event in general was okay basically our laptop and iMac all have M3 now, cue the credits roll. Basically more graphics features on the chip, Dynamic Allocation was interesting. Typical most the performance talk was "graphic performance" or the few areas of Workstation class computing using Macs. For the average user you won't notice the performance booth because we're already crazy fast for you. So all in all the event was what we expected and if anything fewer new things than hoped for.
Now the real big deal that only some have commented on is the whole presentation was shot on iPhone 15 Max. Apple has already put out a behind the scenes video talking about how it was all done on a iPhone. John Prosser video pointed out in the end the whole presentation was a big iPhone commercial. I think iPhones lagging sale will get a nice bump from this "M3" event.
BTW…..the Intel iMac they were comparing to was the imac base i9-5600k. The Pro of that time had a 9th gen i9900k I believe (2019-). The current gen Intel processor is 14th gen with 15(m) and 15/16 Alder about to be released. Even the 13900k has a 60% performance uplift single core over the 5 year old (iMac PRO) processor. The one they used in comparison Was 120% vs. 2 Intel generation ago! This presentation and their ‘snappy’ benchmark comparisons were meant to be swallowed whole by unquestioning, non-critical thinking or technical viewers. Look at the numbers and use a bit of common sense.
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With SwiftUI making it easier to write apps that work seamlessly on both iPadOS & macOS, expect the built-in Mac and iPad apps to start converging pretty quickly. Wait for WWDC24.
Speaking of which, there will probably be a few features in macOS 15 that will require the M3, or be significantly better on it.
Hence Apple's push into services (profits whether you upgrade or not) and visionOS (need to keep the hardware requirements up so users have a reason to upgrade).
Apple is trolling, mocking, abusing, how can you not see this, $1500 for a toy laptop, in 2023 the m3 range are toys, for children to play games on, 8GB is really immature by Apple...8GB+256GB on a 2023 laptop is pathetic... Of course it will sell, but truly Tim is having a laugh.. Brutal... It is pathetic that Apple does this...
You can just say no, you didn’t watch it.
I do not think there were glitches; just Apple positioning each level of product. Apple does a great job of placing products at levels that push us to jump to the next level. Your Mini example is a perfect example of that. Folks like you and me would like to use a desktop Mini, except 32 GB RAM would be limiting for 2025 and beyond. So we buy a Studio - which is probably where we should have been looking all along. ;~)