Everything Apple Didn't Announce at Today's Event

[Floppsi]

I am using Apple products since long time, but the Mac section during the key note was the most rediculos that I saw since long time.
- 2018 they announce a Mac Mini with 4 Core - ohh yes after 4 years they use a 4 core processor.
- 6 Core with 32 GB and 500GB SSD for 2500 Euro - for a processor that is 1 year old.

The Mac Mini introduction was more like a very bad comedy and Apple tried to foule the costumer.

I really thought that Apple reached the lowest level last year when they old that they "now" listen to the pro customers and they will introduce a new modular Mac Pro. - And Tim Cook told this like such a Mac Pro would never exist in the past.
I really think Tim Cook and Co are sitting every morning in the office and laughing about the people that still thing that Apple really care about Pro customers or private customers that want a high performance Mac - I mean look at the page of the Mac Pro since nearly 6 years the same page and the same money :-(

 

[HarryWild]

I just hope Apple follows with a $1,500-$1,800 iPad Mini Pro!

 

[k2focus]

there is a reason they didn't announce a macbook, imac, or mac pro - they aren't a computer company anymore. they are a phone/lifestyle company at the moment. they said goodbye to being a computer company as soon as they decided that making everything as thin and stylish as possible was their number one goal.

 

[ericinboston]

No iPad Mini 5.
No iMacs.
No iPhone SE 2.

I agree. I NEED to purchase a 27" i7 iMac in November (as a gift) and I've now got to find either a 1.5 year old iMac at a good discount or hold my breath and pray for an iMac refresh before 11/30. I will be absolutely livid if I buy a 2017 iMac in late November and new ones come out (with better i7 CPUs) 30-60 days later unless I save $500.

I really was hoping for a Mini...but since the regular iPad is $329 now while the ancient Mini is still $399, I wasn't sure what Apple would do for Mini pricing. Would they drop it to $329 which was 2012 pricing or still gouge us? If the Mini has the same or better CPU as the 2018 iPad AND is cheaper than the 2018 iPad, I would buy it. Otherwise I would buy the regular iPad. I'm running some apps that max out the CPU so I'm looking for best price/performance but also not spending more than $400.

Given that tomorrow is Nov 1 and Apple's big parade was yesterday, I don't see new iMacs or Minis coming until next year because they can just sell off all the old inventory and do a refresh in March when people pay off their holiday spending.

 

[HarryWild]

No iPhone X SE

I think all of the people who like the SE should just try out XR for 14 days before you do your rant again! I move from a SE to the XR Max and looking back, the SE craving was so silly now! Totally ridiculous idea still want a 4” iPhone dating back to 2011. I guess there are still a lot stubborn people with narrow, set in your ways ideas that will not move from 4” to how smartphones are being used. I know I will get a lot pushback from this post but that the way the technology trend is. Get with it! At least try it before going back on to ranting that you want a 4” iPhone. Open up your eyes and just see how many people are carrying small size smartphones. I would guess 5%!

 

[PowerGala]

I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of the new iMac, but I get it. If they're improving the screen, it wouldn't make sense to release the new iMac and not the iMac Pro (which isn't even a year old). I'm also not quite ready to pull the trigger anyway, so hopefully, it will be here soon. I need a pre-configured option with an SSD.

I'm hoping that they increase the screen size, but I'm not sure how realistic that is with the 5k Display. There are quite a few 32-inch 4k options, but I don't know if there are many 32-inch 5k options.

 

[Plutonius]

Add the iPod Touch to the list of missing updates.

 

[Bornee35]

Saving them for the November and December events, monthly releases to keep the constant refresh demanders happy.

 

[teamgibbs]

I don't think they wanted to canniblize sales of either an iPad pro over say a Mac Book or even an iMac. I get the feeling they are steering us to a degree. I wanted rather straight up needed a iPad Pro and more specifically a new iMac. Guess I gotta keep waiting.

 

[LQKansas]

I'm still kind of disappointed in the lack of update for the iMac. I wanted to buy that this year, hoping for an 9th gen i9 designed around all NVME.

VERY disappointed in the lack of an upgraded iMac. I have been waiting for months for yesterday's announcement, ready to pull the trigger. I use Final Cut Pro fairly heavily and really need more power, especially a faster GPU. An iMac Pro is out of my budget. Also still photographers with much bigger RAW files need more speed. I'm even considering the drastic move to a Windows box. That would certainly be a last resort. That would require a migration to Adobe Premier, which starts a new learning curve. Ugh. Do any of you think a new iMac might appear before the end of the year?

 

[OldSchoolMacGuy]

Do any of you think a new iMac might appear before the end of the year?

Not a chance. They've dropped everything they're going to for the year. With the Xmas season on the horizon, they want to get it all out in time for that and haven't done events past October in the past. If they were going to update the iMac this year, it would have been at the event yesterday.

 

[MistrSynistr]

Shame MacBook 12 was not refreshed. Will it be this year?

Yes, it's called the MacBook Air

 

[Baymowe335]

Except the IPP everything in the lineup is inferior to the competition in hardware, so I doubt anyone still here has forgotten about software.

Some of us just feel the OS shouldn’t be pushing the thousand dollar mark.

Come again? iPhone XS has the best silicon in the industry, by far. The FaceID hardware is STILL ahead of competition. The XS has a top 3 camera in the industry.

The XS was recently said to have the "best display" in the industry. Color accurate, bright, contrasty, etc.

You mentioned iPad, and I'm sure you agree they are the best tablets in the industry in hardware, speed, performance, and software.

If you're talking laptops, the MacBook Pros have the latest Intel chipsets up to i9 and the MacBook Air is a different audience, so you won't have "amazing" specs. There has to be a reason to move up to MBP. With Air, you get one of the lightest, slimmest designs in the industry with MacOS.

Oh and Apple has the best watch on the market too...and the best wireless headphones.

 

[ignatius345]

They've got a good/better/best product line for laptops, but they've just got the names wrong.

The new Air should be "MacBook" and the ultra-thin MacBook should be "MacBook Air". Done.

 

[hetrigger]

As much as I and others complain about the price of stuff at Apple, I have a mid 2010 27" iMac. The main reason for me to upgrade is I cannot update the OS. IF I were doing that with a PC, I would have been doing that every couple of years. (at least that is what I would tell my wife)!!!

I will keep this iMac and let my kids use it for homework. maybe after I get it tuned up and replace some things!!!

 

[PowerGala]

Not a chance. They've dropped everything they're going to for the year. With the Xmas season on the horizon, they want to get it all out in time for that and haven't done events past October in the past. If they were going to update the iMac this year, it would have been at the event yesterday.

If it's a spec-bump, they could release it with a press release like they did with the MacBook Pro. They're also releasing an another new MacBook Pro configuration for Late November. Which they only announced on the product page.

I agree that 2018 is highly unlikely with the rumor that the iMac is getting a significant screen upgrade. I'm guessing that they'll release the new iMac with the new iMac Pro if that's the case.

 

[MistrSynistr]

What is this fixation with the iPhone cases? There are tons of good third party cases for a fraction of what Apple would charge.

And all made from the same stuff.

 

[Horselover Fat]

By all means let's have glued ipads and iphones and make them thinner, but keep the computers safe from going down that path! The hassles you have to go through or the sheer impossibility to swap the boot drive of any of the current macs or add RAM or add storage, let alone add a standard graphics card for above average performance are insane. Now that I've seen what Apple thinks Pros will like (mac mini) my pessimism regarding the next Mac Pro is only growing. Is this really what they get from their intensive research and contact with the "Pros"? Now there are three paths and none seems attractive: Mac Pro7,1, Hackintosh (due to the growing significance of the T2), Win10 (leaving the ecosystem).

 

[jonnysods]

When they started the keynote I thought it was going to be an off the charts all Mac event. Was kind of getting pumped up to see some new Apple made displays. Oh well, still good to see some Mac love (even if the base mac mini specs are horrendous).

 

[psac]

I need an iPad mini because its size means it can go everywhere I go, and any moment I have a minute of free time, the display is just large enough to sketch and do some graphics or spreadsheet work on. An iPhone is too small, and the next size iPad Pro is too big to be tucked into a jacket pocket or back pants pocket. The mini is the right size, it’s just running on a what 4 year old chipset & is woefully lacking pencil support. To hear Apple describe it as the budget iPad indicates they don’t even understand its strengths any better than the people who mistakenly assume an iPhone is a capable replacement for it, or that it’s the most popular iPad because it’s cheap. There are already cheap iPads. We don’t need it to be cheap, we need it to be capable.

Give it newer chips, and pencil support, sell a trillion of them.

Yes, this. I wish they treated it like the XR and the XS. Same innards in a (in this case) more portable case, even with a slightly less impressive display. That's how they had the original iPad mini 2.

 

[KazKam]

Why isn't an Apple monitor in this list?

Many had speculated Apple might reintroduce a new Apple monitor since the mac mini was finally refreshed, and the alternatives on the market are either abysmal, very un-Apple-like, or both.

I would love to see 21" and 27/30" Apple monitors back in their lineup... even at Apple's insane-o prices. Nobody makes hardware like Apple.

 

[scottinlexky]

VERY disappointed in the lack of an upgraded iMac. I have been waiting for months for yesterday's announcement, ready to pull the trigger. I use Final Cut Pro fairly heavily and really need more power, especially a faster GPU. An iMac Pro is out of my budget. Also still photographers with much bigger RAW files need more speed. I'm even considering the drastic move to a Windows box. That would certainly be a last resort. That would require a migration to Adobe Premier, which starts a new learning curve. Ugh. Do any of you think a new iMac might appear before the end of the year?

hackintosh dude. it's the only way to go at this point. I am going to build one with an 8 core processor, and it will be far less expensive than anything apple offers.

 

[KPOM]

There was option enough to put Amber Lake in the new MacBook Air.

That's actually a problem since there isn't much range in the Amber Lake line up either. So if both the MacBook (MB) and the retina MBA both have exactly the same processor what is the difference? Largely just weight. Well if the MacBook is comatose and Apple wants to sell lots more of the retina MBAs then MBs then the difference now is largely just weight also. And the MBs are even cheaper (for Apple) to sell since older stock components. ( MB is more expensive so know they are going to sell less so goosing the margins helps someones bonus evaluation in middle management.)

Intel's log jam on variations of 14nm process has the new stuff in limited supply ( Intel is fab capped at least until Q1-Q2 timeframe next year). So that is a contributing factor too. (small chance Apple is kicking the can on the MB update until the log jam uncorks more)

There is zero evidence Apple even has enough Mac resources assigned to move all the products forward at the same time. That's the third factor. There is no new MB probably because practically no one is working on it. That's primarily not Intel's fault.

My guess is that there isn’t much Apple can do with the MacBook until the 10nm chips are out. 2.75-3lbs seems to be the sweet spot in the notebook market where companies can cram high-res screens, Thunderbolt, and in the case of Windows PCs, touchscreens. Apple probably doesn’t have the thermal space in the 12” design to add Thunderbolt. But there is still a market for ultralights.

 

[Firebrand]

I find it sad that $1200 is considered 'budget' for a notebook, especially one thats made from scrap and low-end components.

Imagine a subscription model for cables, dongles, and other accessories ... OMG!

 

[SkyBell]

Seems like for the last 4 or 5 years, every hardware update Apple releases loses more and more of my interest in their products. Shame, really. I guess my next "Mac" is going to be a hackintosh, because I can't get behind this continuing obsession with thin and light at the cost of features and options.

I remember a time when Apple certainly pushed you towards doing things their way, but also gave you other options - that's clearly not the case anymore.