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Of course depends on the price I agree. But when Garmin can make a brilliant watch with bigger screen (up to 51 mm) in Amoled and now from next week micro-led and have included inReach sat coms or via LTE than Apple really needs to step it up. And that with at least 15 days battery with always on mode and up to 27 days in on/off mode the AWU2 just doesnt seem like a good buy. My current Garmin is closing in on 5 years and I still have 5 days battery and I work out 1 hour 5 days a week.... None of my Apple watches survived 2 years.
Garmin has better maps and workouts, and can track your dog even directly on it with GPS/VHF tracker. Its been through a lot but looks just like new besides switching the band. I just like the looks better for the AWU when Im not working out, otherwise Garmin wins on pretty much everything.
That is the rub. New Garmin Fenix 51MM? it's $2000..."Entry Level" Fenix 47MM is $1200... and add $7.99 a month for inReach(cheapest plan)

Had a Garmin "running watch" years ago, it lasted forever.

I passed my AWU 1 to my son when I got my AWU 2. Still working fine for him, he just charges it every night.
 
Cue Tim Cook next week re: the iPhone Air "Customers are always telling us they're looking for less battery life, and the new iPhone Air delivers on that wish."
 
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I’m hoping for phones even more capable of running Apple Intelligence. I’d also love a demo of the upcoming World Knowledge Siri, Conversational Siri, Intelligent Siri and Translation Siri. C’mon Tim - show some balls and double down!
 
Looking forward to seeing everything that Apple announces next week, especially the 17 Pro Max. Hopefully there will be the rumored orange color and the zoom is at least 5x. Planning to buy the 17 Pro Max!!
 
Nope... iPhone 17 Air uses Apple's new modem chip which consumes less power than Qualcomm's modem chip which was previously used in iPhones. And Apple's A19 chip with one less GPU core, also consuming less power.

I'll wait for a review from a credible source.

Lol we hear the same thint every uewr. “The new chip is going to make battery life killer.” It never does. In fact, Apple put a larger batter in the 16 Pro Max to give it more battery life because the new chip alone wouldn’t do it.

Of course this is all speculation, but the battery life of that phone will be trash I think.
 
How about you wait until Tuesday instead of making an assumption instead of a simple, flawed logic?

Yeah its super flawed logic to think that a super thin phone will have bad battery life. Almost like it was super flawed to think that a small phone (the mini) would have bad battery life. So crazy.
 
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Lol we hear the same thint every uewr. “The new chip is going to make battery life killer.” It never does. In fact, Apple put a larger batter in the 16 Pro Max to give it more battery life because the new chip alone wouldn’t do it.

Of course this is all speculation, but the battery life of that phone will be trash I think.
I’ve yet to see a claim that the new modem and A19 (less one GPU) will provide killer battery life.

Can you post a link?
 
Yeah its super flawed logic to think that a super thin phone will have bad battery life. Almost like it was super flawed to think that a small phone (the mini) would have bad battery life. So crazy.
Once again, wait until Tuesday. You literally said "My credible source is that the 16 Pro Max gets about 17 hours of battery life. A phone half the thickness of it will get about half the battery life which is being generous."

Your argument is "The phone is half as thick so the battery life is half as much" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
I’ve yet to see a claim that the new modem and A19 (less one GPU) will provide killer battery life.

Can you post a link?

Exactly. That’s how I know the iPhone Air’s battery life will be trash unless it’s severely gimped.
 
Once again, wait until Tuesday. You literally said "My credible source is that the 16 Pro Max gets about 17 hours of battery life. A phone half the thickness of it will get about half the battery life which is being generous."

Your argument is "The phone is half as thick so the battery life is half as much" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yeah it’s just so far fetched that a phone that’s super thin gets half a days battery life or less. Unthinkable!


Oh wait,

 
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Yeah it’s just so far fetched that a phone that’s super thin gets half a days battery life or less. Unthinkable!


Oh wait,

Oh wait,

Comparing a Galaxy Phone to an iPhone!!!! The case cracker!!!! That proves you are right.


BTW...."My credible source is that the 16 Pro Max gets about 17 hours of battery life. A phone half the thickness of it will get about half the battery life which is being generous." Talk about empirical evidence. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
Exactly. That’s how I know the iPhone Air’s battery life will be trash unless it’s severely gimped.
"My credible source is that the 16 Pro Max gets about 17 hours of battery life. A phone half the thickness of it will get about half the battery life which is being generous."
 
That is the rub. New Garmin Fenix 51MM? it's $2000..."Entry Level" Fenix 47MM is $1200... and add $7.99 a month for inReach(cheapest plan)

Had a Garmin "running watch" years ago, it lasted forever.

I passed my AWU 1 to my son when I got my AWU 2. Still working fine for him, he just charges it every night.
51mm is only £1200 here in the UK. What is inreach and why do you need it?
 
51mm is only £1200 here in the UK. What is inreach and why do you need it?
In the US, the 51mm with MicroLED is $1999. InReach is required if you want to leverage satellite for emergency messages.


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Exactly. That’s how I know the iPhone Air’s battery life will be trash unless it’s severely gimped.

You're not making any sense (and likely not an electrical engineer). The two main chips that require less power, will need less battery capacity (ie fewer watt-hours from a smaller battery) for a given runtime and expected performance level.
 
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