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Everything Everywhere Authorized to Offer UK's First LTE Service Ahead of Next iPhone

I would imagine 4g will come with an extra cost to the customer , right? And it might not be available to pay as you go customers???
I wont hold my breath anyway, I'm on Tmobile and sometimes in central London , particularly Green Park, I struggle to get 3G
 
Fatboy71 said:
O2 do not charge for tethering now. The new packages they introduced in March/April 2011 include tethering at no extra cost. Basically your data allowance is yours to use either on the device or personal hotspotting/tethering another device.
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My Contract was a 24 month 2010 contract, so that will be why mine didn't tether then. Great to hear they changed their minds on that one.
 
3G coverage is horrific anywhere outside of a town, and even non-existent in some.
 
aurichie said:
It will incredible if iPhone is the only device capable of giving UK consumers the full 4G experience on a beautiful device that just works, all the time.
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There are already numerous mobile phone devices capable of 4G in Europe.
 
garybUK said:
Let's hope the `New New` iPad will have universal 4G and not the crippled US/Canadian 4G it currently has, surely this must mean people are going to stop buying the Cellular New iPad seeing as investing in one isn't a good option at this moment?
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The 'Crippled US/Canadian 4G' networks were the only networks that had rolled out LTE markets. I'm glad they didn't build the iPad 3 with support for frequency that wasn't even activated in other regions. We Americans may have to pay higher rates for our cellular service, but we received the next generation of connectivity several years before y'all across the pond. So if we have the 'crippled' networks then y'all have the 'broken' networks.
 
Hopefully EE's LTE will work on a 'normal' international iPhone, rather than the UK-only frequency special models that O2/Vodafone's LTE networks will need.
 
Mike Oxard said:
We have really crappy broadband, usually less than 2 meg, and they're never going to upgrade us. Last night I rented an SD movie on my AppleTV and it was going to take over an hour to start playing. I set up a wireless hotspot from my iPad which is on Three's 3G network and it stated playing immediately!

As we are so unlikely to get Infinity or Virgin Cable out here, I 'd really like an LTE modem that I could connect into my AirPort Extreme and ditch the telephone line altogether.
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Sounds familiar. Would you happen to live in the Milton Keynes area? :)
 
Starting from 11 Sept. Interesting timing.

I really hope 4G lives up to all the hype. I'm so wanting to cut my cable cord and go mobile broadband only but 3G is just too slow. I can't wait to see how this pans out as an Orange business customer.

It would fantastic if I could tether a 4G iPhone 5 to my Mac and iPad and use it as my internet gateway. Bye bye telephone line and fixed line broadband at last. £15 a monthly just for the line rental on a phone line I never use.
 
We haven't really got good 3G coverage yet! (vodafone)
i move between Oxford and London all the time, and i have to say that my iPhone is more often on Edge than 3G. I still commonly see the 'o' 2G symbol.

bizarrely vodafone just emailed and said they are trialing new tariffs and that i have UNLIMITED DATA for the next 3 months :) just need to find a 3G signal now...
 
fullstop102 said:
My Contract was a 24 month 2010 contract, so that will be why mine didn't tether then. Great to hear they changed their minds on that one.
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Yeah I think it was a good move for O2 to do tethering at no extra cost. Whether its changed now, but the last time I heard, Vodafone charged you £5 extra on top of your data plan cost, if you tethered which lasted for 30 days.
 
Spectrum Abuser said:
The 'Crippled US/Canadian 4G' networks were the only networks that had rolled out LTE markets. I'm glad they didn't build the iPad 3 with support for frequency that wasn't even activated in other regions. We Americans may have to pay higher rates for our cellular service, but we received the next generation of connectivity several years before y'all across the pond. So if we have the 'crippled' networks then y'all have the 'broken' networks.
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Part of why the US is ahead on LTE is that Verizon was in a bind. Its technology had hit a dead end because the technology had lost in the 'market' and the network equipment companies stopped development for it. And with Verizon pushing ahead with LTE, AT&T did not want to fall back too much.

Of course, no regulator forced the two to create interoperable networks...
 
Spectrum Abuser said:
The 'Crippled US/Canadian 4G' networks were the only networks that had rolled out LTE markets. I'm glad they didn't build the iPad 3 with support for frequency that wasn't even activated in other regions. We Americans may have to pay higher rates for our cellular service, but we received the next generation of connectivity several years before y'all across the pond. So if we have the 'crippled' networks then y'all have the 'broken' networks.
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Really? why was I using a Vodafone 4G LTE Broadband in Germany all the way back from start of the year? not activated... must have dreamt it!!! :rolleyes: ignorance must be bliss, because 'You Americans' are obviously the first to have it hahaha.
 
Here in Australia we have several brands already using our 4G network, hope Apple can join them in a few weeks!

If the US is so far ahead with LTE/4G then why do they need 2 different iPhones for the 2 networks in the US, pick a standard and stick to it! And maybe join the rest of the world while you're at it!!!
 
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Orange is great, if you live in London or within the immediate boundaries of one of our major cities.

Anywhere else and it's horrible, have a house that has walls thicker than a piece of paper then you don't get a signal, live near a field then you don't get a signal.

Honestly Orange are the worst. My contract is up in December and I'm going with either 02 or 3 and I'm sending their CEO a very nasty letter telling him what I think of his company and their customer service and the lies they tell you to tie you into a contract.
 
bigchrisfgb said:
Orange is great, if you live in London or within the immediate boundaries of one of our major cities.

Anywhere else and it's horrible, have a house that has walls thicker than a piece of paper then you don't get a signal, live near a field then you don't get a signal.

Honestly Orange are the worst. My contract is up in December and I'm going with either 02 or 3 and I'm sending their CEO a very nasty letter telling him what I think of his company and their customer service and the lies they tell you to tie you into a contract.
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I moved to T-Mobile and they are good! I got 3G coverage in the middle of the countryside the other week!

I would miss 02 if I were you considering the problems they have had with their network! ;)
 
tann said:
All EE have been granted is permission to use the existing frequency they have spare as part of their 4G network.
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Not quite. Everything Everywhere has been installing 4G masts across the UK since March and Ofcom has allowed them to use the 1800 MHz band purely for 4G on the condition it sells 25% to Three. As a side note, Everything Everywhere are going to use it's 4G launch to rebrand the Orange and T-Mobile brandsh in the UK as one.

Personally, I think this is a mistake. Ofcom has delayed the auction to ensure that all carriers are treated fairly, some spectrum is even being reserved for someone to create a new carrier, possibly BT or Sky. This makes the last few years of waiting pointless. Why wait three or so years for a fair auction if 6 months before that auction the largest carier is given a major advantage?
 
Lancer said:
If the US is so far ahead with LTE/4G then why do they need 2 different iPhones for the 2 networks in the US, pick a standard and stick to it! And maybe join the rest of the world while you're at it!!!
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While there were two different models of iPhone 4, there is only one 4S and it is compatible with both types of network. The issue is a "political" one; Verizon and Sprint will not activate phones that they didn't sell.
 
Reason077 said:
Unfortunately it's hard to do this due to the different ways frequencies have been allocated and used in the various countries & regions. Frequencies that are available for use in some areas aren't available in others.

800/1800/2600Mhz will be the standard LTE frequencies throughout Europe, and most (but not all) other countries outside the Americas.
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I'm in New Zealand where the old CDMA frequency from Telecom's XT Network is being re-used for LTE and Telstra in Australia has done that already with its own 1800Mhz frequency that was once used for its own CDMA network. For most countries those three will be the frequencies of choice simply because in the case of NZ we haven't even switched off our analogue television yet let alone put the frequencies up on the auction block yet. There will eventually be a move to 700Mhz but it will be at least 2015 before it happens in NZ and I wouldn't be surprised if it arrives in Australia 2014.
 
MrNomNoms said:
I'm in New Zealand where the old CDMA frequency from Telecom's XT Network is being re-used for LTE and Telstra in Australia has done that already with its own 1800Mhz frequency that was once used for its own CDMA network. For most countries those three will be the frequencies of choice simply because in the case of NZ we haven't even switched off our analogue television yet let alone put the frequencies up on the auction block yet. There will eventually be a move to 700Mhz but it will be at least 2015 before it happens in NZ and I wouldn't be surprised if it arrives in Australia 2014.
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Yes but how hard is it for Apple (the worlds most valuable company) to make an iPhone (or iPad) that works with our 4G network in Australia when others have had them on the marker here for much of 2012.
 
Lancer said:
Yes but how hard is it for Apple (the worlds most valuable company) to make an iPhone (or iPad) that works with our 4G network in Australia when others have had them on the marker here for much of 2012.
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Apple tends to wait for the 2nd generation of new baseband chips, to make sure they can get them in both the very large quantities that Apple requires and at the power specs that Apple needs.

The cutting edge LTE chipsets often either aren't yielding enough production volume, or use so much power that they would drain the iPhone's battery too fast.

Other manufacturers can get away with using them because they aren't shipping anything like the sort of volumes that Apple does (i.e. millions of units per month) and/or can slap in a huge battery to compensate for the power drain.
 
Westyfield2 said:
Hopefully EE's LTE will work on a 'normal' international iPhone, rather than the UK-only frequency special models that O2/Vodafone's LTE networks will need.
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Nonsense. There are not going to be any UK-only LTE frequencies.
 
If it takes a while for handsets that can use EE's 4G to become available then i suspect their first push will be a mi-fi type device. I suspect a lot of people might be tempted by this because it means they could use it with a range of devices that they already own.
 
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