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You do realize there are already other cell phones with periscope lens. Apple is late to the game (as usual).
You do realize there are already other cell phones with periscope lens. Apple is late to the game (as usual).
Apple need not be first with specific features as long as the net camera product remains excellent. Each year iPhones remain ~at state of the art.
 
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I was all set to upgrade my crusty old iPhone X to a 15 Pro, but if the 15 will have an even better sensor, it looks like I'll just save some $ and get that. If it uses the same (year-old) sensor, and doesn't get the periscope telephoto lens, the case for the 15 Pro is pretty weak. Sure, it'll have a newer A-series chip, but is anyone complaining about a modern iPhone being too slow?
 
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What to expect for the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus camera specs.

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no reason to upgrade for me. iphone 11 pro here. iphone 11 pro was a big step. for casual shooting the ip11 is good enough. for serious pics i use other tech, not a smartphone. i believe the iphone 16 pro is the next big step because of the rumored tele lens in a more „compact“ sized smartphone. we will see
They said here the 16 will be larger
 
New rumores regarding the periscope-tele for iPhone 15 pro max (from China): 1/1.9'' sensor / 85 mm / F2.8.

This would mean "only" 3,5x zoom, but with an extreme large sensor for a tele and probably 48MP for 7x digital zoom with 12 MP.

If true, it would mean Appe - again - is not going for the biggest spec (10x optical zoom) but for an extremly well balanced option which would do great for e. g. portrait even in low-light situations.
 
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Yea... I don't think any smartphone is going to be a game changer in the photography world. That is if we're talking about professional photography, not night shots of cats.
While the term „game changer“ may seem a bit over used it’s perfectly valid if applied to the development of cell phone camera technologies over the last 10, 15 years. There have been huge leaps imo.
 
I will just buy the new iPhone when it has the Sony IMX 903. But not this old spec Camera. ..And a useless Telephoto with 2.8
The IMX803 is nearly 50% larger than it's predecessor. The IMX903 will only be slightly larger (1,14" for the IMX903 instead of 1/1.28" for the IMX803). Furthermore, the 24 mm focal length of the IMX803 are allready at practical limits. If the IMX903 will stay there it will have an even larger camera bump or it will get even shorter, making the main camara more-and-more to a kind of ultra wide.
 
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Hoping all of this is misinformation to distract, and Apple doesn't put the 14 pro sensor (IMX803) on the 15 pro sensor. Wishing Instead, that Apple uses the new IMX858 on the 15 Pro
You do know that the imx 858 is a way worse sensor right? Naming doesn't mean anything.
 
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You do know that the imx 858 is a way worse sensor right? Naming doesn't mean anything.
Exactly. The IMX 858 will probably be used in the normal iPhone 15 / 15 plus. Therefor they will be 48MP but with a smaller - and of course cheaper - main sensor.
 
No. The imx 858 would also be a downgrade compared to what the 14/14 plus had.
While true, it enabels 50MP and many other "modern" features. However you're correct that it is unlikely and untipical for Apple to use a smaller sensor for "Spec purposes" with actual worse real-life performance. Reminds me of HTC.
 
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You should probably go and try the S23 first yourself. It is using optical zoom at 3x and 10x.
If you zoom in and go to somewhere between 3x and 10x, the 3x lens will be used and cropped, as digital zoom.

Right. And this is exactly why these lenses should not be called „zoom“, but „tele“. A real zoom has optical magnification along a range of focal lengths, i.e. a 3x-6x zoom will be optical at 3x as well as 3.5x, 4.8x and 6x, and all numbers inbetween.

It’s the same with iPhone models, and will probably be with the new one.

So far this is true, but I believe the 15 PM will have a real zoom lens. Apple waited quite long to be able to make this happen.

The technology is not there yet to have actually moving optics or sensors, except for some concept phones.

Wrong. There is a Sony phone (as well as an Oppo one) with real optical zoom.

Xperia 1V specs

But no one is 'zooming' between distances in a still photo. User's don't want the option to 'switch to another telephoto lens', they just want to zoom into their shot.

What users (should) really want is a true optical zoom, not scattered optical tele lenses.

I cannot express enough how irate I am that they are going right back to pulling this crap with making major camera improvements exclusive to the freakishly gigantic Plus model.

It is quite possible that there was just not enough space in the 6.1“ model. This is probably also the reason the 16 Pro is rumored to go to 6.3“.

New rumores regarding the periscope-tele for iPhone 15 pro max (from China): 1/1.9'' sensor / 85 mm / F2.8. This would mean "only" 3,5x zoom, but with an extreme large sensor for a tele and probably 48MP for 7x digital zoom with 12 MP.

Apple will absolutely not go to the lengths of implementing a periscope lens just to go from 3x to 3.5x.
 
What is "real" optical zoom according to you?

Please read my answer above regarding the difference between zoom and tele. A zoom is optical across a range of focal lengths, a tele just at one fixed focal length.
 
Please read my answer above regarding the difference between zoom and tele. A zoom is optical across a range of focal lengths, a tele just at one fixed focal length.
No. What you're saying is called a variable optical zoom which is what the Sony has. Phones have achieved optical zoom through the use of different lenses with longer focal ranges and everything in between is digital zoom.
 
No. What you're saying is called a variable optical zoom which is what the Sony has. Phones have achieved optical zoom through the use of different lenses with longer focal ranges and everything in between is digital zoom.

Sorry, but please go to any photography website to educate yourself. Every zoom is „variable optical“, otherwise it is not a zoom but a fixed focal length. That‘s why all iPhone (and Samsung etc.) smartphones so far do not really have „zoom“ lenses but tele lenses. They just use the term „zoom“ wrong.
 
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Apple will absolutely not go to the lengths of implementing a periscope lens just to go from 3x to 3.5x.
This has to be proved. Many enthusiasts actually view it as a critical point to let go of the 3,5x optical option, especially for portrait and others.

Furthermore, Apple has a history of not going "standart" regarding teh pure spec pushing.

They may use the really large sensor (for a tele lens), which ist actually the size of the iPhone 12 pro main sensor, to allow for comperativly high quality crooping up to 14x digital zoom. Or the 85 mm is just the lower end of the option and it really has 85mm and another fixed at around 300 mm. However, taht is currently rumored for the 16 "Ultra".
 
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