Is that bad?Not enough reason to upgrade from the 14 Pro for me.![]()
Is that bad?Not enough reason to upgrade from the 14 Pro for me.![]()
You do realize there are already other cell phones with periscope lens. Apple is late to the game (as usual).
Apple need not be first with specific features as long as the net camera product remains excellent. Each year iPhones remain ~at state of the art.You do realize there are already other cell phones with periscope lens. Apple is late to the game (as usual).
They said here the 16 will be largerno reason to upgrade for me. iphone 11 pro here. iphone 11 pro was a big step. for casual shooting the ip11 is good enough. for serious pics i use other tech, not a smartphone. i believe the iphone 16 pro is the next big step because of the rumored tele lens in a more „compact“ sized smartphone. we will see
While the term „game changer“ may seem a bit over used it’s perfectly valid if applied to the development of cell phone camera technologies over the last 10, 15 years. There have been huge leaps imo.Yea... I don't think any smartphone is going to be a game changer in the photography world. That is if we're talking about professional photography, not night shots of cats.
The IMX803 is nearly 50% larger than it's predecessor. The IMX903 will only be slightly larger (1,14" for the IMX903 instead of 1/1.28" for the IMX803). Furthermore, the 24 mm focal length of the IMX803 are allready at practical limits. If the IMX903 will stay there it will have an even larger camera bump or it will get even shorter, making the main camara more-and-more to a kind of ultra wide.I will just buy the new iPhone when it has the Sony IMX 903. But not this old spec Camera. ..And a useless Telephoto with 2.8
You do know that the imx 858 is a way worse sensor right? Naming doesn't mean anything.Hoping all of this is misinformation to distract, and Apple doesn't put the 14 pro sensor (IMX803) on the 15 pro sensor. Wishing Instead, that Apple uses the new IMX858 on the 15 Pro
There are phones with 3x or 3.5x periscopes that produce incredible results. If they used a 10x periscope you'd have very bad quality photos between 2x and 9.9x.a 5x periscope lens I feel like is going to be incredibly underwhelming. Needs to be 10x to be worth it.
Did you even read what you posted? It's 10x OPTICAL and 100x DIGITAL.well, the Samsung S23 Ultra does NOT have OPTICAL ZOOM, its digital, it's fixed focal length
from Samsungs website:
Optical Zoom at 3x and 10x, Digital Zoom up to 100x
Exactly. The IMX 858 will probably be used in the normal iPhone 15 / 15 plus. Therefor they will be 48MP but with a smaller - and of course cheaper - main sensor.You do know that the imx 858 is a way worse sensor right? Naming doesn't mean anything.
No. The imx 858 would also be a downgrade compared to what the 14/14 plus had.Exactly. The IMX 858 will probably be used in the normal iPhone 15 / 15 plus. Therefor they will be 48MP but with a smaller - and of course cheaper - main sensor.
While true, it enabels 50MP and many other "modern" features. However you're correct that it is unlikely and untipical for Apple to use a smaller sensor for "Spec purposes" with actual worse real-life performance. Reminds me of HTC.No. The imx 858 would also be a downgrade compared to what the 14/14 plus had.
Yeah I think the problem is we are now years behind Samsung’s flagships in the zoom area, and going from 3x to 6x is still well behind. I would hope Apple could make it 10x.
What is "real" optical zoom according to you?You don‘t understand. No Samsung phone has real optical zoom. I really hope the Pro Max will. Otherwise, yeah, I‘ll be disappointed.
You should probably go and try the S23 first yourself. It is using optical zoom at 3x and 10x.
If you zoom in and go to somewhere between 3x and 10x, the 3x lens will be used and cropped, as digital zoom.
It’s the same with iPhone models, and will probably be with the new one.
The technology is not there yet to have actually moving optics or sensors, except for some concept phones.
But no one is 'zooming' between distances in a still photo. User's don't want the option to 'switch to another telephoto lens', they just want to zoom into their shot.
I cannot express enough how irate I am that they are going right back to pulling this crap with making major camera improvements exclusive to the freakishly gigantic Plus model.
New rumores regarding the periscope-tele for iPhone 15 pro max (from China): 1/1.9'' sensor / 85 mm / F2.8. This would mean "only" 3,5x zoom, but with an extreme large sensor for a tele and probably 48MP for 7x digital zoom with 12 MP.
What is "real" optical zoom according to you?
No. What you're saying is called a variable optical zoom which is what the Sony has. Phones have achieved optical zoom through the use of different lenses with longer focal ranges and everything in between is digital zoom.Please read my answer above regarding the difference between zoom and tele. A zoom is optical across a range of focal lengths, a tele just at one fixed focal length.
No. What you're saying is called a variable optical zoom which is what the Sony has. Phones have achieved optical zoom through the use of different lenses with longer focal ranges and everything in between is digital zoom.
This has to be proved. Many enthusiasts actually view it as a critical point to let go of the 3,5x optical option, especially for portrait and others.[...]
Apple will absolutely not go to the lengths of implementing a periscope lens just to go from 3x to 3.5x.