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Evidence for New MacBook Pros

Sooner would be nice and all and I really hate to burst the all the optimistic bubbles... However, it seems highly unlikely to me that a MBP will come in February. The March 17th rumors still sound the most credible, as well as being a reasonable time line relative to the MBA announcement at MW. Assuming this rumor (MacBook4,1) is true. It's still entirely conceivable that someone at internally at apple has one and Apple will still hold it at least until March to get volume up and avoid cannibalizing MBA hype not to mention MBA sales.
 
Any real rumor ?

I'm wondering if the release of the MBP is so near and if so, why we are not hearing more about it (leaks) ? Is it because it will be only a minor revision with no visual upgrade ? If I remember, some folks had seen a strange laptop on the campus before the official release of the MBA. But I didn't hear anything similar for the new MBP. And don't get me wrong, I want the new one right now, I'm waiting since September to get my first ever Mac...
 
Seems plausible enough given that it's practically the same way we found out about the Macbook Air. They're long overdue, too. New keyboard time at last :)
 
Wow I'm impressed. As of this post no negatives? Surely there's someone out there who just has to be the fly in the ointment.

Or they aren't awake yet?
 
I don't think it will be Feb. 5.

Why?
1) To close to MBA in stores.
2) This is "Super Tuesday" with many elections. I don't think they will introduce a new product when people and the media concentrate on the election outcome.

Sorry. However, I still hope it will be sooner rather than later. I already ordered my new MBP 17" but told my dealer to wait until the new machines are available...

Hartmut
 
northwest said:
first post here, just joined, been waiting for updates of mbp as well - as a near computer tech illiterate 2 questions - first is there any reason why, if there is a redesign, it would come rather now with the pennryn or later with the montevina chip update?

Also could anyone comment on how significant a change it would be with the montevina chip platform - and thus to wait for that if it is just a matter of a couple of month - ?

anybody care to comment?
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I think the redesign is more problable with the release of Montevina by summer because it implies a new motherboard (logic board as Apple likes to name it) )design. On the other hand, the new penryn processors work with the current motherboard without much modification. Having to redesign the motherboard maybe it's a better time for a case redesign than any other.

I will leave the second question for someone with more info about Montevina ;)
 
northwest said:
first post here, just joined, been waiting for updates of mbp as well - as a near computer tech illiterate 2 questions - first is there any reason why, if there is a redesign, it would come rather now with the pennryn or later with the montevina chip update?

Also could anyone comment on how significant a change it would be with the montevina chip platform - and thus to wait for that if it is just a matter of a couple of month - ?

anybody care to comment?
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If you always keep waiting for the next update, you will never get one

and I for one would not like a redesign, I think the way the MBP is now (which is basically the way the PowerBooks were) is the best laptop design I have ever seen. All I really care about is the keyboard remaining the same though
 
well this does give that extra boost of patience to wait just a tad bit longer.

thank god i got myself a little old hp to learn ubuntu on.
something to distract me from going out and just getting a macbook pro.
 
Based on the rumors, a redesign doesn't look likely.

Expect speed bumps and a multi-touch trackpad (more like the MacBook Air's than the 'two-finger' scrolling on current MBPs). Maybe some resolution increases, too.

And since this won't be a major technological advance, and most of the election coverage will happen later in the evening, I can very easily see them announced via press release on the morning of Super Tuesday.
 
tothelimit said:
reassuring indeed.

why couldn't that identifier have said "MacBookPro4,1(coming feb5)"??
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Does MacRumors have an opinion on whether the new MacBook Pros will pick up some of the features of the Air?

I have heard some rumblings to that effect, but if this is true, it would imply a bigger announcement at some upcoming show or event wouldn't it? Instead of just a quick revision announced on the Apple store site.

Anyone know when the next opportunity for an Apple presentation with a media presence is?

kkat69 said:
Wow I'm impressed. As of this post no negatives? Surely there's someone out there who just has to be the fly in the ointment.

Or they aren't awake yet?
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I've been here over a year now and I still have never "voted" on a thread to my knowledge.

I have never been quite sure what the point of it is and suspect that a lot of the negative votes are the result of people who are equally confused, just clicking around at random. :)
 
Virgil-TB2 said:
Does MacRumors have an opinion on whether the new MacBook Pros will pick up some of the features of the Air?

I have heard some rumblings to that effect, but if this is true, it would imply a bigger announcement at some upcoming show or event wouldn't it? Instead of just a quick revision announced on the Apple store site.

Anyone know when the next opportunity for an Apple presentation with a media presence is?
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I don't think it would require a big announcement - in fact i think it would be bad to have one. Basically, these new possible features have already been show-cased on the MBA. It would be bad to get the press together to show them tech that has already been presented.
 
Southernboy said:
A redesign please ;)
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I have mixed feelings about a redesign. In the one hand, new designs would be exciting. On the other hand, the current design is quite nice. Maybe they will move everything to a bigger version of the macbook air case? Who knows...
 
Love it, now lets see if we can get some real specs on these babies. Some pictures would be nice also, but specs would be great.

No black keyboard on alum MacBook Pro please, I don't like the look of the black keyboard onn the MacBook Air no mater how great. It just makes it look less pro in my mind.
 
jb510 said:
It's still entirely conceivable that someone at internally at apple has one and Apple will still hold it at least until March to get volume up and avoid cannibalizing MBA hype not to mention MBA sales.
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IMO there is not much logic in this assumption, not even if repeated 100+ times on this or other sites.
The choice will normaly be made starting from the MB. If you need more power (speed, graphic...), you will go for the MBP. You will not choose an MBA then, as those have less power than an ordinary MB.
Or you don't truly need the power of an MB but weight and size is important, then you will decide in favour of MBA.
Maybe a few people will choose between MBA and MBP on a emotional basis, but most of us will probably think twice before spending so much money ;) .
 
If he is smart he would do it soon before everyone blows their income tax refund LOL..
But if it was coming soon I think someone would of leaked some pictures by now.
 
propropro said:
I think the redesign is more problable with the release of Montevina by summer because it implies a new motherboard (logic board as Apple likes to name it) )design. On the other hand, the new penryn processors work with the current motherboard without much modification. Having to redesign the motherboard maybe it's a better time for a case redesign than any other.

I will leave the second question for someone with more info about Montevina ;)
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thanks, i am getting my first mbp- switching over from ibookG4, there is no hurry, twice i've bought camera/and computer with significant changes following almost immediately after, and so now with all the signs saying 'slow down' there really is no point in not being patient ....
 
Not to put a dampener on things, but there's no chance that this identifier is simply the MacBook Air is there? I remember that the PowerBook 12" had an iBook identifer, NOT a PowerBook identifer, so it is possible that, internally at least, the MBA is identified as a MBP.

Still, I'm waiting on new MBPs and this is just making me get more impatient so I hope I am wrong! :p:eek:
 
olliebraves20 said:
I'm looking at it like this, I've waited this long what is few more weeks or months. I would think however that it would be more like weeks. I just think they don't want it to complete with the new MacBookAir....
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Completely different product focused on a completely different group of people. The MBA isn't even "Pro", by any standard.

Southernboy said:
A redesign please ;)
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northwest said:
first post here, just joined, is there any reason why, if there is a redesign, it would come rather now with the pennryn or later with the montevina chip update?
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Unfortunately I think a re-design, if one comes at all, will come with Montevina, and not Penryn, but one could hope.

drhkocher said:
This is "Super Tuesday" with many elections. I don't think they will introduce a new product when people and the media concentrate on the election outcome.
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Good point, Apple does like media coverage, and they wouldn't get it with a whole load of other things going on at the same time.

I thought there was a Penryn shortage anyway, so they'll probably wait till that clears up. Gives time for a little more refining too.

paul.b.davis said:
and I for one would not like a redesign, I think the way the MBP is now (which is basically the way the PowerBooks were) is the best laptop design I have ever seen. All I really care about is the keyboard remaining the same though
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You mean you like how they get worse reception through wifi than the MB's because of the aluminium shell, or the fact that they dent really easily, and then Apple wont repair something (not related to the ding) till you buy a new case ?

What about the fact that the design hasn't changed for ages, it's old, it's well out of fashion.

I used to think the "Pro" keyboards were the best too, but with everything else moving over to a uniformed MB-style keyboard; and the MBA getting backlighting in it's MB-style keyboard, I can't see why they wouldn't incorporate this in their "Pro" offering sooner rather than later.

In all honestly, when Apple redesigns the MBP I think they'll make a right mess of it. Shaving off further mm's for an even thinner laptop, that is more a statement of who you are than a professional laptop built for high performance.

We'll see, time will tell.

johnnyjibbs said:
so it is possible that, internally at least, the MBA is identified as a MBP.
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Nope, I recall a thread (and news story) pre-MWSF about the MBA identifier being found on an Adium log or some such.
 
John Purple said:
IMO there is not much logic in this assumption, not even if repeated 100+ times on this or other sites.
The choice will normaly be made starting from the MB. If you need more power (speed, graphic...), you will go for the MBP. You will not choose an MBA then, as those have less power than an ordinary MB.
Or you don't truly need the power of an MB but weight and size is important, then you will decide in favour of MBA.
Maybe a few people will choose between MBA and MBP on a emotional basis, but most of us will probably think twice before spending so much money ;) .
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Do you see the fabled sub 12" ultraportable notebook ever materializing, especially since MBA was introduced (sacrifice screen/keyboard)?
 
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