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tech savy hey? if you were, you would get something up to date (like a tablet with the new tegra chipset)

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Why? What good are hardware specs if the software blows?
 
tech savy hey? if you were, you would get something up to date (like a tablet with the new tegra chipset)

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Yet, iPad will sell more and make more profit in a single year than that tablet's total combined sales in its lifetime.

Let's make one thing clear, running the desktop OS on a tablet is the problem. Apple has the right solution that could change everything, including the tablet industry from the ground up. The PC tablet makers will now come up with better OS for their tablets and in a generation or two from now, PC tablets will be awesome just like the iPad and probably with more features like multitasking and so on.
 
Why? What good are hardware specs if the software blows?

stop thinking what apple tells you to, on other computers you can install whatever operating system you want and whatever software you want as well as customize it to whatever you want.

FFS even my HTC Touch pro phone can dual boot operating systems (windows mobile 6.5 and Android 1.6)

Sw is not a big deal at all but the HW cannot just be reinstalled, what you buy is what you get with the ipad, you cant upgrade anything on it.

PC tablets will be awesome just like the iPad and probably with more features like multitasking and so on.

Will be awesome? they already are, ppl are just too dumb to look outside of apple's mind control field.
 
stop thinking what apple tells you to, on other computers you can install whatever operating system you want and whatever software you want as well as customize it to whatever you want.

FFS even my HTC Touch pro phone can dual boot operating systems (windows mobile 6.5 and Android 1.6)

Sw is not a big deal at all but the HW cannot just be reinstalled, what you buy is what you get with the ipad, you cant upgrade anything on it.

What don't you understand? The reason why the tablet market has never taken off is because all companies did was shoehorn a desktop OS onto a different form factor, and it just doesn't translate into a good experience.
 
stop thinking what apple tells you to, on other computers you can install whatever operating system you want and whatever software you want as well as customize it to whatever you want.

FFS even my HTC Touch pro phone can dual boot operating systems (windows mobile 6.5 and Android 1.6)

Sw is not a big deal at all but the HW cannot just be reinstalled, what you buy is what you get with the ipad, you cant upgrade anything on it.


SW is a huge deal. There's a reason iPhone and iPod is very successful in their markets even thought there were much more powerful products with the ability to dual boot OSes and so on.

Majority of people don't care about installing different OS, they do not even want to deal with that crap. Most people just wants something that works out of the box, not something where they have to install an OS and customize the crap out of it.
 
stop thinking what apple tells you to, on other computers you can install whatever operating system you want and whatever software you want as well as customize it to whatever you want.

FFS even my HTC Touch pro phone can dual boot operating systems (windows mobile 6.5 and Android 1.6)

Sw is not a big deal at all but the HW cannot just be reinstalled, what you buy is what you get with the ipad, you cant upgrade anything on it.

Don't be ridiculous. The point of using a computer is to get work done, and software is how you do it. I've used nearly every OS there is, and apples' OS's help me get my work done with less hassle. I only started using a mac a couple years ago - I designed microprocessors for AMD for 10 years and guarantee I know more about the use, and the guts of, Windows than do you. I also am completely versed in linux, Solaris, VMS, and many other OS's.

I don't want "other computers" because I cannot install "whatever operating system I want" on them. I can only run microsoft crap on it.
 
not in the ipad's case, infact it will look worse on the ipad than the iphone

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Resolution and DPI aren't the only factors, the quality of the screen (IPS in this case) also counts. Too high of a resolution and people will have a problem reading text without straining their eyes. Majority of people that I know never like having 1080P resolution on 20" screen but have no problem using 1080P on 24"-27" because of the lower DPI. This is a mass market device, not a niche product for people who wants the best of everything, they can just go buy something else instead.

Also, most tech blogs have played with iPad and stated that the text is sharp. So it's not going to be a problem.
 
Resolution and DPI aren't the only factors, the quality of the screen (IPS in this case) also counts. Too high of a resolution and people will have a problem reading text without straining their eyes. Majority of people that I know never like having 1080P resolution on 20" screen but have no problem using 1080P on 24"-27" because of the lower DPI. This is a mass market device, not a niche product for people who wants the best of everything, they can just go buy something else instead.

Also, most tech blogs have played with iPad and stated that the text is sharp. So it's not going to be a problem.

it was stated before, the ipad is not purely an ebook reader, also im pretty sure they would incorporate some kind of zoom function for text like the pinch zoom for pictures.
 
it was stated before, the ipad is not purely an ebook reader, also im pretty sure they would incorporate some kind of zoom function for text like the pinch zoom for pictures.

I never stated it was an ebook reader. Internet browsing, emails, majority of apps are text form, for majority of people it's going to be their primary function on the product.

Zoom? Are you kidding me? Please tell me you're kidding right?
 
You can't keep comparing tablet pc's to the iPad. An XT2 costs at least 3 times as much as an iPad, weighs more than twice as much, and is more than twice as thick. The iPad and tablet pc's are geared to different markets.

Just because a bicycle isn't as powerful as a car, doesn't mean a car is clearly always the better choice. I don't need an XT2 level device to surf the web, access my twitter account, watch movies, or play the types of games I play. If I bought a second computing device right now, it'd be an iPad, not another MBP.

What people don't 'get' is the direction of the iPad. To me, Apple is refining an interface, making it lighter, more dynamic and useful, rather than focusing on cramming in more raw power. If you consider that more and more apps are moving to the cloud, I think this is fairly forward thinking.
 
You can't keep comparing tablet pc's to the iPad. An XT2 costs at least 3 times as much as an iPad, weighs more than twice as much, and is more than twice as thick. The iPad and tablet pc's are geared to different markets.

Just because a bicycle isn't as powerful as a car, doesn't mean a car is clearly always the better choice. I don't need an XT2 level device to surf the web, access my twitter account, watch movies, or play the types of games I play. If I bought a second computing device right now, it'd be an iPad, not another MBP.

What people don't 'get' is the direction of the iPad. To me, Apple is refining an interface, making it lighter, more dynamic and useful, rather than focusing on cramming in more raw power. If you consider that more and more apps are moving to the cloud, I think this is fairly forward thinking.

i agree with that, iPad is for different market, but more app is welcome for the ipad.
 
All the negative feedback about the iPad is a little sad. People are acting like Apple owed them the tablet of their dreams and failing to do so, they are having a hissy fit. They can jump up and down all they want but in a few years this hostile reception will be a moot point because iPads will be more mainstream than laptops.
 
tech savy hey? if you were, you would get something up to date (like a tablet with the new tegra chipset)

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And the reasons noone has been talking about it or buying it?

Pretty much the same reasons as why the Modbook is a niche product

If you need to rely of figures to sell it - most ordinary users will just not get it.

The ipod and iPhone are such sales phenomena is that they are simple to use and fun for the kind of people that think a kernel is something you make popcorn out of.

KISS - keep it simple and sexy.

Understanding that is what differentiates a tech corporation from a company that makes happy consumers.

The tech press may be waiting for a few missing pieces - but the public press - that the market this is aimed at will read for tech news - is getting rather giddy.
 
And the reasons noone has been talking about it or buying it?

Pretty much the same reasons as why the Modbook is a niche product

If you need to rely of figures to sell it - most ordinary users will just not get it.

The ipod and iPhone are such sales phenomena is that they are simple to use and fun for the kind of people that think a kernel is something you make popcorn out of.

KISS - keep it simple and sexy.

Understanding that is what differentiates a tech corporation from a company that makes happy consumers.

The tech press may be waiting for a few missing pieces - but the public press - that the market this is aimed at will read for tech news - is getting rather giddy.

These are many of the same reasons that the Wii has sold nearly more than both the 360 and PS3 combined, despite having pretty pathetic hardware stats in comparison. The average person doesn't care about GPUs and Cell Processors, they just see Wii Sports and think gee, that looks fun.

Of course where the analogy breaks down is the fact that I think most people would agree that the Wii is lacking in the software department, which is unlikely to be the case with the iPad, and obviously the iPad is a much more practical device in the sense that it does things people really need to do on a regular basis rather than just being an entertainment device (although it's that too).
 
I never stated it was an ebook reader. Internet browsing, emails, majority of apps are text form, for majority of people it's going to be their primary function on the product.

Zoom? Are you kidding me? Please tell me you're kidding right?

well in both windows 7 and windows mobile you have Text size, and a slider to adjust what size the text should be, im sure the desktop version of OSX has this too

And the reasons noone has been talking about it or buying it?

Pretty much the same reasons as why the Modbook is a niche product

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people do talk about it, just not on this forum lol, i wouldn't of heard of it unless it was talked about on forums or gizmodo or whatever.
 
Not that anybody really cares but here goes..
It's interesting but I'm not going to be standing in line for it. I just rebuilt my 13 inch laptop with a new LED screen, 80gig SSD drive and Win7 and I'm happy with that for now. I will wait for the 2nd gen Ipad with OS 4.0 and 32Gigs flash and the newest processor for $499.
Plus I'll see if there are any 1st gen issues that need to be fixed after a few months..
I think Steve has something wrong here. The whole Ibook thing is a fad. I prefer to read a book that feels and looks like a book and which I can get for free at the local library or cheaply at a second hand store. Books are something I like to keep around.
Not that I'm a Luddite by any means I just think the emphasis on books is a mistake and where the action is, is in e-magazines. Magazines with pictures and multimedia are a natural and better fit than books for this. When I can get my magazines and newspapers to download to this device then I will have a compelling reason to buy one. Until then well not so much since I have an Ipod Touch and a laptop for now.
 
Let's make one thing clear, running the desktop OS on a tablet is the problem.

Let's be really clear:

Even Apple is shoehorning a desktop OS on their tablet.

It's not the OS that's critical to non-stylus tablets: it's adding a big-fingered UI and making sure that all apps follow that UI.

Apple has the tight-fisted control for that. Other systems haven't found a central Pied Piper yet to lead them to do the same. (There have been weak attempts, like HP's Touchsmart and the UMPC Origami desktop overlays.)
 
stop thinking what apple tells you to...

...ppl are just too dumb to look outside of apple's mind control field...

Is your life really that pathetic that you have to come on here and act like a schoolyard bully? Why are you being such a Troll? Oh, that's right, it's in the genes...

EDIT: Ahh, I see you changed your family photo to something completely different... ;)
 
While the iPhone has been heavily driven by the app developers, they were given a platform that had never been seen before which allowed them to think outside the box. The iPad is, in reality, just a jumbo iPod Touch and it seems to me that Apple isn't doing their part in bringing something "new" to the table. It's almost as if Apple was a little lazy with the iPad and may be solely relying on the developers to "make the device."

Also, has anyone thought that AT&T may be who killed the front facing camera for video chat? I mean, it is their network that would be bogged down. AT&T is currently in the process of upgrading their network, so perhaps their data plan deal for the iPad was a little quid pro quo (Apple holds off on the camera until the next version of the iPad so that AT&T can upgrade their network).
 
Is your life really that pathetic that you have to come on here and act like a schoolyard bully? Why are you being such a Troll? Oh, that's right, it's in the genes...[/img]

Yep, it's time to update the Ignore list. This iPad thingy (which none of us have actually touched or used) has brought the troll brigade out in a fury. I've never seen so much twisting of knickers and frothing of mouths. Curious.
 
Also, most tech blogs have played with iPad and stated that the text is sharp. So it's not going to be a problem.

We can't really judge screen quality from 3rd hand reports from someone who played with it. We won't know until its been in the wild a while will we? There's a big difference between "I played with it in a demo booth and the picture looked sharp lulz now click my blog's advertising links plz" and "I just read Stephen King's "IT" on this thing and don't feel any noticeable eyestrain".
 
iPad output options

I assume there is no video out on the iPad?

So if i need to give a presenation or similar

What about a docking station for the iPad?
 
I assume there is no video out on the iPad?
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Your assumption is (semi) incorrect. There will be a video out cable compatible with the dock connector.

While the iPhone has been heavily driven by the app developers, they were given a platform that had never been seen before which allowed them to think outside the box. The iPad is, in reality, just a jumbo iPod Touch and it seems to me that Apple isn't doing their part in bringing something "new" to the table. It's almost as if Apple was a little lazy with the iPad and may be solely relying on the developers to "make the device."

Your thinking is exceptionally narrow minded, as is anyone's who dismisses the iPad as "just" a big iPod Touch. Apple has already clearly demonstrated with iWork that the iPad is capable of running desktop-class apps, as long as developers are creative enough to translate them to a multi-touch interface. The fact that The Omni Group has jumped on board is another sign of this.

Imagine if you were Leonardo Da Vinci and all you ever had to paint on was a 3.5" canvas, and then someone gave you a 10" one. Would you think eh, this is just a bigger 3.5" canvas, there are no new possibilities for expression here?
 
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