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those 2320 batteries and others are a few pennies each. Who knows, maybe the innovation is that they make a new biodegradable or greener battery even - too much metal in those coin cells anyway.

PIA to remove those batteries from the device as well - so maybe Apple has a better way?

I think it’ll just be like the AirPods. Not user serviceable because they don’t want “dumb” users, and there are some, complaining that their battery fell out etc
 
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I think it’ll just be like the AirPods. Not user serviceable because they don’t want “dumb” users, and there are some, complaining that their battery fell out etc

Yep, and cost of ownership matters too. The big lie of TrackR and Tile is those button cells and the false economy around the button cells.

Key to the design is power management - and Apple silicon is a great solution. AND passive tricks too. And software tricks. I think it will be elegant
 
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Many trackers claim they do this, but none do it reliably enough to be useful. Looks good in the marketing copy though.
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Apple could build a rocket that could reach Mars in 3 days, and you'd parrot the same comment. Yawn, been done before.

An irrelevant statement and childish considering that to be impossible even by well know space organisations let alone presuming what I would and wouldnt say is presumptive and arrogant to say the least.

Delivering a tile replacement isn’t innovation when similar products on the market. iPhone was innovation.
 
Some people guessing prices like $60 for 3. That’ll never happen. It’ll be more like $50-$75 for a single. Maybe as high as $80.
 
So I would risk putting a $100 tracker device on my $200 CCM 10-speed when I park it downtown?

They might just take the tracker device and leave my bicycle!

I need a $24.99 or $15.00 tracker, and so does everyone. It's the biggest company in the world. They lock you into the ecosystem even tighter if they give you an honest deal on these things.

We shall see though - but $100 seems way high to me - for that you can make a GSM tracker with it's own GPS yourself.

It should be tiny and cheap.

Look at AirPods - they can do tiny.

Cheap? Well - with huge volumes like 100M - yes. Cheap. Cheap Tiny and Good!

You’d put the tracker somewhere within the frame so no one would know. $200 is cheap for a bicycle. I’d imagine the devices will also be locked to your iPhone, so thieves won’t be trying to target them.
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An irrelevant statement and childish considering that to be impossible even by well know space organisations let alone presuming what I would and wouldnt say is presumptive and arrogant to say the least.

Delivering a tile replacement isn’t innovation when similar products on the market. iPhone was innovation.

Delivering a tracking device that is better than Tile would be the definition of innovation. Read the dictionary definition for innovation.

Also, by your wrong definition iPhone would not have been innovation as there were already touch screen phones on the market! Apple just made them game changing, like they are going to do in the personal tracking device market!
 
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I truly think that this whole ”find my tile gadget” idea is simply brilliant. No, Apple isn't the first one with such a device but Apple is one of those provider of hardware smartphone’s out there that can build in software within iOS that automatically can spot these tiles and provide locations to a specific person that is asking for this so he or she can did there stuff back.

The changes of finding lost items is huge since millions of iPhones are circulating in areas where items might be lost.

This will be a huge success, i’m sure of that.
 
Yep, and cost of ownership matters too. The big lie of TrackR and Tile is those button cells and the false economy around the button cells.

Key to the design is power management - and Apple silicon is a great solution. AND passive tricks too. And software tricks. I think it will be elegant

If it’s anything like AirPods it’ll be cool.
 
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Delivering a tile replacement isn’t innovation when similar products on the market. iPhone was innovation.

It does show a fundamental misunderstanding of Apple’s modus operandi though, which is to take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.

This is speaking as a former tile owner. It imposes a very noticeable battery drain on your iPhone, and Bluetooth is wonky (doesn’t always reconnect reliably when you go out of and back within range again). The biggest issue was the relatively poor adoption rate in my vicinity.

Apple looks like it should be able to solve all three, as they have their own Bluetooth variant, enjoy a comparatively higher adoption rate of iOS devices, and will be able to integrate this device on a system level.

The end result will be a better user experience for everyone involved, and that’s what really matters at the end of the day, IMO.
 
They are going to sell 100 Million of them probably in the first couple of years. That's a lot of button cells. Maybe they will have a recycling program at Apple Stores - get a free battery when you return a dead battery - complete with a vending machine style battery exchanger.
Which rich country doesn’t have an easy way to recycle (user-removable) batteries?
 
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It should be clear why Apple has been at the forefront pushing hard on moving Bluetooth forward over the years. Faster rates, greater range, lower power, mesh, direction finding, location services, etc.

There's no doubt in my mind Apple has a deep well of innovative product plans that will soon become apparent.
 
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It does show a fundamental misunderstanding of Apple’s modus operandi though, which is to take an emerging product category with a frustrating user experience and deliver a polished product made possible by its control over both the hardware and software.

This is speaking as a former tile owner. It imposes a very noticeable battery drain on your iPhone, and Bluetooth is wonky (doesn’t always reconnect reliably when you go out of and back within range again). The biggest issue was the relatively poor adoption rate in my vicinity.

Apple looks like it should be able to solve all three, as they have their own Bluetooth variant, enjoy a comparatively higher adoption rate of iOS devices, and will be able to integrate this device on a system level.

The end result will be a better user experience for everyone involved, and that’s what really matters at the end of the day, IMO.

Very well said Sir
 
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Some people guessing prices like $60 for 3. That’ll never happen. It’ll be more like $50-$75 for a single. Maybe as high as $80.


I'd bet against that if I could.


You’d put the tracker somewhere within the frame so no one would know. $200 is cheap for a bicycle. I’d imagine the devices will also be locked to your iPhone, so thieves won’t be trying to target them.


Within the frame works when the frame is not made of steel. But my CCM junker bike is made of weak "not so Chrome-Oly".

Radio waves don't work well through steel is what I am getting at. Thieves will look under the seat where I put it, and leave it alone cuz it isn't going to cost $100 :)[/QUOTE]
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They need to build the functionality into the AirPod case, while they are at it.

I think it is there already actually.
 
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Which rich country doesn’t have an easy way to recycle (user-removable) batteries?

That's true. Maybe Apple will rely on existing battery standards. I dunno - I think for the Billions of dollars they will make they can also make a new standard of battery for wearables like this. I am hoping for that battery innovation, and maybe it comes maybe it doesn't come yet.

The point I am making is that you can buy the battery factory and do whatever you want at Apple's scale. Why not do it better? There is no really good reason to stick with old battery standards - unless there is a reason I don't understand yet.
 
I personally believe that this should be a thing kind of HomeKit (Tile Kit?) rather than closed only to an Apple Tile like accessory. This stuff could be already integrated in many wares rather than a separate device.

The way the article describes they are approaching it, closed to their own offer, albeit I fully understand it, comes late. And because of this its kind of predatory and may be another stone to the growing pond were Apple goes after the business of developers that bet on the platform to innovate. More so than they did with Android. No to mention it kind gives more reason to the observation that Apple seams not to have their own original tech ideas anymore.
 
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Here’s what everybody is missing with apples tile thing: it will be made from titanium.
 
it would be awesome if you could use ARkit and see with camera where signal is coming from.
 
Just $39 each, or a 5-pack for only $199. Battery replacement program will be available later.

This better be ridiculously good product or I will continue using Chipolo (*

*) Lots of other competition in the market also, so Apple has to find amazing USP.
 
Im going to swallow one of these. Im always getting lost.
[doublepost=1567425716][/doublepost]Stick one in the car(s)... So ill always know where the Mrs is - even though shes turned off Find My Mrs...
 
Apple's Tile ..... Your x is located here.

Living room Couch ....HA HA ... You'll never find your x, I've devoured it for all eternity.
 
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