and yet if it was made page 1, then there would surely be some ranting about how it shouldn't be page 1.
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Explosion at Pegatron Factory for Apple Products, Injuries Reported
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and yet if it was made page 1, then there would surely be some ranting about how it shouldn't be page 1.
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Another iPhone self combusted causing a domino effect of iPhone 4s mini explosions. Please check the altitude.
Another iPhone self combusted causing a domino effect of iPhone 4s mini explosions. Please check the altitude.
This is very tragic, as is any accident where someone gets injured. Truth be told, though, it only makes the news because they're producing stuff for Apple. Accidents happen at factories around the world all the time, but most are never reported on because they're not involved with a multi-billion dollar company.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have compassion for those that were injured...of course we should. But the fact that this gets reported on when other similar incidents don't makes it seem like this is only happening to Apple suppliers, which just isn't true. I also don't think it's fair for Apple to be expected to compensate the employees that were injured. If they do, that's wonderful and very kind. But keep in mind that those people aren't Apple employees, they're employees of Pegatron. Pegatron should be taking care of them. Apple has done a lot in recent years to try to make working conditions better, but I'm sure it's difficult when you don't have direct control over everything.
I hope everyone that was injured recovers quickly, and hopefully they can find out what caused the explosion to keep this from happening again.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have compassion for those that were injured...of course we should. But the fact that this gets reported on when other similar incidents don't makes it seem like this is only happening to Apple suppliers, which just isn't true. I also don't think it's fair for Apple to be expected to compensate the employees that were injured. If they do, that's wonderful and very kind. But keep in mind that those people aren't Apple employees, they're employees of Pegatron. Pegatron should be taking care of them. Apple has done a lot in recent years to try to make working conditions better, but I'm sure it's difficult when you don't have direct control over everything.
I hope everyone that was injured recovers quickly, and hopefully they can find out what caused the explosion to keep this from happening again.
It's a Taiwanese company-- their parent company owns both Pegatron and ASUS computers. I hope Apple pushes all of its suppliers hard to create safe working conditions, but Apple should not compensate Pegatron's employees directly, unless Apple was specifically the cause of a condition that led to this accident. Pegatron serves many clients and they need to have their feet held to the fire; not have Apple cover for their mistakes.
If Apple pulls out of one factory, where would they go? All the factories in China and the third world suffer the same problems. It is worth noting that every product you see that says "made in China" has 99% been produced in a factory where workers are not treated fairly. I don't see you telling all the other millions of companies that have goods produced there to pull out.
Also the suicide rate of Foxconn and other "Apple factories" are lower then the suicide rate in China and the world.
Is this literally true ? Hundreds every year ? And because of falling from ladders ?
If the numbers are literally true, that's huge. Something should be done immediately ? I was shocked even by reading that.
What's happening is the complete lack of regulatory oversight. There's a reason why stuff like this is not a regular occurrence in the United States.
Beat me to it..."small explosion", 61 injured...Bet there's more to come.
Guess who also got in fast...all the apologists. With all the usual talking points ranging from wanting to bury the story to people standing on ladders wrong.
No need. Apple fabs it's A5 right here in Austin at Samsung's 4 Billion Fab Plant.
Don't read too much into the Samsung Apple stuff. Steve has only been gone a short while. It will take Tim a while to cool things down, and still protect Apple's property. Remember, Steve could be a very nasty ass**** when he wanted to. Gotta get past the old memories of some.
are you gonna protest and lose sleep at night that this article isn't on page 1?..... nope. so get on with your life.
Learn about statistics.
From the website of a British ambulance chaser: http://www.ashleyainsworth.com/work...laim/ladder-accident-compensation-claims.html There are around 1200 major injuries suffered in the UK every year due to accidents involving ladders.
1200 is twenty times as many as 61. And one number is "major injuries" while the other is "injuries", which means even the slightest injury was counted.
And having actually been involved in health and safety, yes, people get killed all the time because the are standing on ladders wrong. Mostly totally avoidable, but as long as there are idiots who think they know it all and believe they are immune to any risk, that isn't going to change.
200 explosions in the workplace in the USA in 2008. Not a regular occurrence?
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Sometimes these kind of accidents are caused by some 'inexperienced new worker' who hides in the wrong place to smoke a cigarette. Some areas use acids and other flammable fluids that could ignite with anything, even static electricity.
Read some OSHA and NTSB data. Industrial accidents, including explosions, ARE a regular occurrence in the U.S. Lots of people regularly die in industries providing your energy, building stuff in your country, growing your food, and transporting stuff to your locale.
You know what the ****ed up part of this is? There are probably people who think that.
That's the problem with many people & companies today. They're more concerned about making as many products as quickly & cheaply as possible & not about quality of work conditions. It's all about the money. Shame.
Let's turn that around. When was the last time you went into a chain restaurant, shoe store or gas station (etc.), and inquired about the benefits and working conditions of the ranchers, farmers, shoe makers, and oil drillers (etc.) who produced what you were about to buy?
Not to mention the number of people that would become unemployed. Unfortunately, we get no news of the hundreds of other industrial accidents occuring. Only Apple gets reported because it sells viewership like none other.
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It's not the companies problem. They get direction from their customers via sales figures. When people choose to purchase quick and cheap, that's what they make. You as a customer set the direction.
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I hope the workers and their families are safe. It sort of makes me question when a manufacturer is used who's safety standards for workers is substandard.
I hope the workers and their families are safe. It sort of makes me question when a manufacturer is used who's safety standards for workers is substandard.
What evidence do you have that safety standards were substandard? **** happens. 200 explosions in the US of A in 2008 alone. When things go wrong, one should obviously try to figure out _why_ they went wrong, whether there were faults at the company that shouldn't have happened and that need to be fixed, and so on. But your are making assumptions without having the slightest evidence.
I just found this and I definitely LOL'd at myself, I guess in the end I win! I am also giggling over how you tried to flame me for posting less than me, your proclivity is posting so much on a website that you're regarded as a senõr Demi-god, gasp the newbie dareth speakth to a god.
(FYI Macrumors is in my feed but I don't log into the site often. But maybe I should so the gods of compassion can show me the way.)