Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Watch needs at least two things to be considered a serious running watch:
1. Physical start/stop button
2. GPS “lock” indication

I run outside year-round, and I’ve had too many problems during runs and races starting the watch and ensuring it had GPS lock, so I went back to Suunto for my running watches.

It’s got a hardware button, but Apple chooses not to use it for start/stop, so I choose not to use it for running or racing.
 
I’ll be disappointed if they simply keep the same design for the rugged version.
Hopefully it’ll be more than just scaling it up in size and changing the material of the case.

Would Apple ever consider adding a button? Or at least changing the way to start and stop a run? The current combined crown/button press is awkward when running. And the swipe screen to pause and then stop is an extra step.
 
I think you don't care about the size, you care more about the price.

If the biggest flagship Apple Watch is 1/3 cheaper than the equivalent smaller flagship Apple Watch, which one would you buy?
At some point, the watches become too large, so I would say size is a factor (although not the only one). Also if you think Apple is going to make the sport version 1/3 the cost of the normal flagship version, I have a bridge to sell you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: arkitect
The clues are all here guys... this IS the flat sided Apple Watch we expected last year. It won't be some big ugly rubber G-shock watch like some have guessed (Apple was never going to do that) but instead will be a 45-46mm sized flat screen and flat sided watch with a unique new material METAL case that is designed to be strong (maybe a new blend Titanium? certainly not Aluminum or anything like shiny Stainless Steel that shows scratches easily) with a sapphire or otherwise higher ruggedized glass/crystal screen. It will have a significant boost to battery life (so it can more easily track day GPS hikes or long Ironman / Marathon events). Price will be likely in the "Edition" range so think $599-799 which is "competitive" with watches from Garmin like their Fenix 7 or 955 etc.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: StoneJack
Bet you still can't take it scuba diving, not even for shallow dives
I love my Apple watch, use it everyday and have done ultra marathoins etc with it.
But not even if Apple bought Suunto or similar would I trust my apple watch for Scuba Diving.
It's also too small to use with gloves. Maybe maybe it could work as a Bottom Timer, but as a full on diving computer, never. Think I'll stick to my EON Core.
 
I think this one is the one for me.

And I say this knowing full well I will do little to no "extreme sports" with it unless you count Netflix binging "extreme sports".
They have this already, it is the Stainless Steel model…though $700, I have used it since day one. Best part is it retains its value because it is unscratchable…I sell mine for $500 or so every cycle. I wear mine twice a week during beach volleyball for the scorekeeper in it, and I work in a machine shop…never a scratch. The sapphire display should be on every  product.
 
I guess only in Apple "Hiking" is an Extreme Sport...
I do mountain biking... that's probably a suicidal sport ???

And please make it as *SMALL* as possible, you don't want any big chunk of metal to bother you while you put your life on the line :eek:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: arkitect
For this user demographic, the battery life is likely the thing that will matter the most. I hope the jump will be significant, but I doubt a slightly larger case will result in major improvements regarding battery life. Fingers crossed
Turn off AOD and wrist raise (mine has theater mode enabled 24/7) and battery is never even close to an issue. I charge mine 1 hour per day in the evening, wear it while I sleep for sleep tracking, and mine has never seen below 50%.
 
The clues are all here guys... this IS the flat sided Apple Watch we expected last year. It won't be some big ugly rubber G-shock watch like some have guessed (Apple was never going to do that) but instead will be a 45-46mm sized flat screen and flat sided watch with a unique new material METAL case that is designed to be strong (maybe a new blend Titanium? certainly not Aluminum or anything like shiny Stainless Steel that shows scratches easily) with a sapphire or otherwise higher ruggedized glass/crystal screen. It will have a significant boost to battery life (so it can more easily track day GPS hikes or long Ironman / Marathon events). Price will be likely in the "Edition" range so think $599-799 which is "competitive" with watches from Garmin like their Fenix 7 or 955 etc.

Yes anything better than the 2 days we're getting would be welcomed.

However, unless they change display technology, don't expect Fenix 14 day battery life. Probably more like Epix 2 and a max of 6 days at best.
 
I have a couple of automatic watches (mechanical, self-winding). Got me thinking.

Does anyone know if a self-winding watch mechanism can be converted to generating power via, uh, a dynamo? This would give us "unlimited power" as long as the watch is in motion. Automatic watch mechanisms tend to be large, but it would be an interesting direction.

Probably not enough power there, at least not with how much power smartwatches need.
 
Yeah my s6 has some scratches on the display my s4 did as well.
As I update every 24 month I’m hoping for this one to be a keeper for 48 months but we will just wait and see.

Older I get the longer I keep a apple devices before upgrading.
As I have said in other comments, step up to the sapphire display on the stainless steel models. My OCD makes scratched screen a non-starter…the sapphire cannot be scratched. Every Series that I have bought has been the screenshot model, and so it shall continue for this reason.
 
I love my Apple watch, use it everyday and have done ultra marathoins etc with it.
But not even if Apple bought Suunto or similar would I trust my apple watch for Scuba Diving.
It's also too small to use with gloves. Maybe maybe it could work as a Bottom Timer, but as a full on diving computer, never. Think I'll stick to my EON Core.
Wasn't thinking of as a dive computer -- there's no depth sensor. Was more thinking about it being able to survive a dive rather than leaving it back on shore.

Good dive computers are few and far between, especially those that can be used beyond recreational diving limits such as Shearwater's Teric, Perdix and Peregrine. All specialists in their field and don't try to be generalists such as the Apple Watch.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jerus
They have this already, it is the Stainless Steel model…though $700, I have used it since day one. Best part is it retains its value because it is unscratchable…I sell mine for $500 or so every cycle. I wear mine twice a week during beach volleyball for the scorekeeper in it, and I work in a machine shop…never a scratch. The sapphire display should be on every  product.

that's the one i have now. agreed.
 
I have a couple of automatic watches (mechanical, self-winding). Got me thinking.

Does anyone know if a self-winding watch mechanism can be converted to generating power via, uh, a dynamo? This would give us "unlimited power" as long as the watch is in motion. Automatic watch mechanisms tend to be large, but it would be an interesting direction.

Probably not enough power there, at least not with how much power smartwatches need.

Way too expensive.
Why not just go with solar like Garmin has done.
 
  • Like
Reactions: arkitect
45 mm refers to the height. The diagonal size is 1.9”
I don't believe this is correct, I can use the 40mm series 5 on my wrist as an example. If I measure the height with some calipers I get less than 37mm. A 1.9-inch/48+mm Apple Watch does not currently exist.
 
For, what I would assume are obvious reasons, this sounds like it would be great for healthcare workers in hospitals and ERs.

I'm a hospital healthcare worker and often work in the ER. I'm not seeing what these obvious reasons are? My current s6 does fine.

That's said, I *might* be interested in this. I'm pretty athletic and sdo a lot of stuff, and right now the watch doesn't cut it. I've had it die twice on long bicycle rides. The screen acts up on hikes and runs in the rain, even with wet mode on. The most extreme sport I do is caving, and I don't wear any watch on my wrist; none would survive all the bangs and scrapes on rock, or the massive amounts of mud I crawl through. I keep a cheap waterproof analog watch on my helmet, and after a few trips the dial doesn't work anymore.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
If I recall, the S7 chip is pretty much the same as the S6 chip, correct? So, if the S8 will be similar to the S7, are we talking about a 2-year old chip in the latest watch? I'm not big on that idea...
 
  • Like
Reactions: arkitect
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.