Sorry to hear that you're struggling with your SE as well. Have you had any issues with voice calls? I may be in the minority as a frequent user of the phone for actual telephone calls, but my phone has become completely unusable in the last few weeks. I thought that I read somewhere that the new iPhone 18 wouldn't be available until the spring of next year(?) If that's the case, then I have no choice but to try the 17. I'm tired of apologizing to people for the poor connection, and telephoning them back from my landline.