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EyeTV App Debuts in App Store

ok, so I read it here , bought the app , downloaded the update , rebooted and it worked all fine ( live Tv streaming ) went out of the house ( took my iphone with me ) came back and it did not work anymore , have been working on it for the last 1/2 hour and still does not work ..... it keeps saying " tv channels not found "

ARGH!!!!! :=(.... like Air-mouse .... sometimes it worked , most of the times not ( specially when I really need it ) so I end up erasing the app , but I think in this case I will ask for refund if I cannot figure it out who to bring this app to work again 😡

Saludos

Franz
 
Here are some more result using the EyeTV iPhone app. Yes, you can stream recorded videos over the iPhone's 3G connection.

I did some more conversions using the default "cellular" compression setting and the playback was actually smooth and usable (but the resolution is only 176x144 at something like 80kbps). However, anything with a lot of motion or changing detail or back-to-back scene changes will blur or become very blocky. Text is also mostly unreadable (in the video) so you can't see subtitles or news crawls. The audio, however, sounds surprisingly good.

I also tried streaming a video at 320x240 (over 3G) but that resulted in pauses and rebuffering about every 4 seconds (i.e. it wasn't watchable, although between the pauses the quality looked pretty good on the iPhone). However, I didn't speed much time trying to optimize the compression settings at this larger size so I don't know what might be possible over a good connection.
 
Eddyisgreat said:
She watches her shows with headphones, I get work done.
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Maybe it hasn't been mentioned before: TV sound is clear and stereophonic (if the TV show is broadcasted in stereo of course) on my iPhone 3G, tested with very good Sennheiser earbuds. Image quality very good via WiFi (live TV) and via 3G (recorded files) as well. Striking!

I connected the iPhone with Apple AV cable (composite) to my TV set: Sound will be streamed to the TV set, video not (live tv and recorded files).

Had some hickups with the update to Mac/EyeTV version 3.2 on my MacBook Pro. With 3.1.x (the most recent version before) I launched the menue command "look for updates", it found 3.2 and did a download and obviously an automatic update with EyeTV restart (sort of).

Then the app simply refused to launch with message "the file seems to be broken or incomplete" and I had to bring back the old EyeTV version with Time Machine for being able to accomplish that "look for updates"-thingy again! At the next try the update worked but I had to do a MBP restart to get the EyeTV iPhone connection working (see my previous postings in this thread).

The new iPhone app works fine so far in my WiFi network but I have 3G connection problems *) sometimes. Occasionally it crashes to homescreen when I hit some command in the "video window"/player sub-app (full screen, pause...). Otherwise all player controls like time shift or "go back 30 s" are doing fine on my iPhone. Good "EyeTV feeling" as usual. (BTW I've played around a while with other solutions and dare to say that Elgato EyeTV -- here hybrid and 610 -- is the most comfortable way to watch TV in our days by far.)

I tried to record a TV show remotely. Works fine. It would be nice to have a record button in the "video window" (player app) so it's only possible via "Guide" (called "EPG" in German-language version). I needs a time (about half of the runtime) to convert the (stopped) record to iPhone format but then it's "ready to play" the recorded file stream out of the "Recordings" folder. Scheduling via "Guide" works nicely as well.

Edit:

*) Can be solved sometimes by switching off and on "EyeTV preferences – iPhone – Use My EyeTV". Get a screenshot here at German-language Elgato support.

Because it's not switched on by default: Added a screenshot where to activate UPnP at Netgear routers (highlighted the menue items). Then EyeTV for iPhones should work (everything except live TV) via 3G after creating an account at "My EyeTV service". Works pretty well here with the six or seven years old device.
 

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Just downloaded this and it connected straight away, no problems. However, does it only work with the built in tuner? I can't seem to find a way to view programs on the composite video input connection, where my Sky box is connected.
 
grapefruitmoon said:
Just downloaded this and it connected straight away, no problems. However, does it only work with the built in tuner? I can't seem to find a way to view programs on the composite video input connection, where my Sky box is connected.
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Hummm. If that is true then that's a major bummer. If I can't access any of the Sky channels then what's the point? 😱

I was just about to download when I read your post.

So anyone else know if it only works via the Tuner connection?
 
Alright, so after rereading all the posts in this thread, I just wanna clear one thing up that I'm still confused about - streaming recorded shows works over both wifi and 3g, bu streaming live tv only (officially) happens over wifi, right? And it will work on any wifi network, not just the one that your eyetv device is on? Finally, has anyone tried streaming live tv over 3g by using
a jailbroken phone?

I've downloaded the app and would try doing all those things myself, but I can't get it to connect, as I have not validated my "my eyetv" account. How does one validate said account, anyways?? I've gotten no emails and can't seem to find that as an option.
 
jaw04005 said:
Don't know what that is (going to assume it's a jailbroken app), but the EyeTV app works officially in both 3G and Wi-fi environments.
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Can't stream over 3G "Wi-Fi Required Live TV playback requires a Wi_Fi network connection."

I'm able to connect and scheduling and other functions work over 3G.
 
arkitect said:
Hummm. If that is true then that's a major bummer. If I can't access any of the Sky channels then what's the point? 😱

I was just about to download when I read your post.

So anyone else know if it only works via the Tuner connection?
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OK I just had a wee play around with it there. I've managed to get the composite connection streaming Sky channels to my iPhone, but it's not ideal. I had to go to live TV and stream from the digital channel...when that was playing, I changed the EyeTV on the Mac to view from composite...the stream then changed to what was coming through on there. Not sure if I'm missing something simple, but it does work! Obviously not much good if you want to watch TV when you do not have access to your Mac mind you...
 
Here is how I got over may problems getting EyeTV working on the iPhone. I suppose the important part of the system is the modem/router, a Netgear DG834PN. Now this device is listed as not compatible with MobileMe and I have never managed to get " Back To My Mac " to work. Today I tried a bit harder.
You have to log into the router, turn on UPnP, then add some "services". You need to add port UDP 4500 for BTMM, TCP 2170 for eyetv. In firewall rules you need to add 3 services, the BTMM service you added, the EyeTV service and the HTTPS service (port 443). for all these services you need to add the IP address of your machine (can be found in system preferences network settings. it might be best to manually fix this in the network settings to stop the router reassigning in on a restart). finally (i think) you need to click on the WAN setup and set your machine as a DMZ server, enter the IP address of your machine. "Apply" all these changes as you make them
reboot the router, either unplug it or reboot from the diagnostics panel. (this part is important)

these processes turned the red "incompatible router" lights off for both BTMM and Use My EyeTV. 🙂

This process might not be as clear as it might be, and I am no expert, so I have no idea what all this stuff means, I tried various combinations, the DMZ being the last addition, and all seems to be working.

I dont run a software firewall, but if you do then you will need to punch some holes through that as well. You could test the router settings while the "soft" firewall is turned off.

Stuff often repeated elsewhere, you also need a core2duo processor, EyeTV 3.2, EyeConnect 1.3.6 etc etc and the iPhone app and or a MobileMe account.

hope this helps someone....
cheers

edit: further info:
the whole thing has decided not to work anymore, and I am struggling to make it work again. it stopped without any changes being made. BTMM still shows a green light. My EyeTv now shows red again. Crap!
 
Rats.
No luck with my EyeTV 250 Plus… stuck at No Channels.

Recorded TV works fine and I can view that with no problem.

But "Live" TV is a no-go.
At least it was only £3… still… would have been nice to actually work. 🙂

EDIT:

Well it only works for FreeView it seems.
I hooked up an old EyeTV Terratec I had lying about and it works flawlessly.
Great quality.

When I hook up the EyeTV 250 Plus I get the No Channels message… and can only access recorded content. 🙁

A great pity this only works via the Tuner and not Composite or S-Video. Hopefully Elgato would address that?

If anyone else has managed to get their satellite box, Sky, working via Composite or S-Video please do tell. 😀

EDIT 2:
Wow. Talk about a mystery.

Suddenly it all works. Great stuff…
 
Does this display subtitles?

Yes it's a small screen, but subtitles would benefit many people not just deaf people.
 
Dynamic IP Addresses

Most people have dynamic IP addresses so how does EyeTV handle it when your IP address changes when you are watching it over the internet (not a local network).
 
Plutonius said:
Most people have dynamic IP addresses so how does EyeTV handle it when your IP address changes when you are watching it over the internet (not a local network).
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EyeTV has a free service called My EyeTV which resolves the IP. You just need to register with your email address and a password, then within the EyeTV app on the iPhone you enter same and you can connect from anywhere. However, for all this to work you need the EyeTV application running on your Mac.

Similarly, there was a question about accessing your video from a network outside of your home (or whatever), yes, that works as long as you have registered via the My EyeTV service.
 
Hopefully this sets a precedent and other companies start following El Gato's lead here (and Sling for that matter). I don't have EyeTV but it would be great if DirecTV or U-Verse could do this. U-Verse seems so ripe for this kind of stuff since it's network-based anyway.
 
I realized last night after one of my earlier posts that the real limitation when viewing recorded video on 3G is that the upload speed on my wired internet connection at home is very slow, I think only about 350Kbps, versus 10Mbps on download. Thus, the upload speed is the real problem, not some issue with 3G or EyeTV.
 
fpnc said:
EyeTV has a free service called My EyeTV which resolves the IP. You just need to register with your email address and a password, then within the EyeTV app on the iPhone you enter same and you can connect from anywhere. However, for all this to work you need the EyeTV application running on your Mac.

Similarly, there was a question about accessing your video from a network outside of your home (or whatever), yes, that works as long as you have registered via the My EyeTV service.
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Very nice. It looks like anyone on a dynamic IP can use the EyeTV app if they have a compatible router.
 
A couple questions to those of you with the app...

Did you have to install anything on your computer to run the program? Or is it all handled from EyeTV?

Also, when you watch Live TV does it just connect to the stream using the regular video player?

What ports do you have to open to get the Live Viewing to work?

I ask these because I don't care about watching so much on my phone but would rather watch on a computer. I think EyeTV may just be opening a stream on some port that could possibly be grabbed if I point VLC to the same ports.

So anyone have them for me or want to try it? 😀
 
I've done some more tests at streaming over 3G to my iPhone. It looks like you can get pretty good quality over 3G if you compress a custom version of the recording using QuickTime (or some other tool external to EyeTV). Unfortunately, EyeTV does not offer any presets that will produce decent quality over 3G. Their standard 320x240 iPhone/iPod setting seems to encode files that are just over 1Mbps and that is too high for my upstream internet connection (the playback pauses about every 4 seconds when streaming over 3G).

However, if you start with a high-quality recording from EyeTV and then encode that file manually (I've used both the QuickTime Pro Player and MPEG Streamclip) then you can output an H.264 file at 320x240, 15fps, 300Kbps, 16KHz mono audio (24Kbps) and the image looks quite good over 3G. The playback is smooth (although at 15fps) and I've noticed no hiccups/pauses during playback to my iPhone.

Of course, you have to do this encoding manually, as there appears to be no preset or automatic method to encode at this quality from within EyeTV. The only cellular preset in EyeTV is 176x144 3GP at about 80Kbps and that looks pretty bad (it's watchable, but just barely).

However, if you have a fast upload on your internet service (greater than 1Mbps) then EyeTV's 320x240 preset should work fairly well (assuming that you've also got good 3G speeds).
 
Great app, especially since I have an EyeTV.

But while it works fine on my 64 GB iPod Touch, the performance of the app on my iPhone 3G is not good. The video takes a very long time to load (compared to the iPod Touch) and it only plays for a few seconds before it pauses to load more content (the Touch runs continuously). Not sure if this has to do with my Touch having a lot more free space available than the iPhone, or if the improved CPU in the Touch makes a difference.
 
Worked great at home. At work I can connect and schedule and watch live tv, but recorded shows all return a "this video is not compatible" when trying to play, even after they were exported to the "best" and "iphone" format.
 
Forward Port 2170

For those of you still having router problems, forward Port 2170 to the relevant mac on your network.

Mine had issues with router not found, and forwarding the above port worked straight away.

The above information is sourced from the support section on Elgato's website, however, I don't have the link handy.

/good luck!
 
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