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F Ilife 06
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As a general rule of thumb you should have at least 10% free hard drive space for OS X to run smoothly. A formatted 80gig drive with 10% free space is right around 7.5 gigs, so that probably is part of the problem. Upon installing iPhoto I noticed a DRASTIC improvement in speed, so your experience does not seem typical.G5Unit said:
BTW iPhoto now lets you keep your existing photo directory structure if you want. I rather let iPhoto maintain itself, but I know alot of people were clamoring for this functionality, so that was a pleasant surprise!
Since you are trying to re-import your photos, I assume you are happy to completely delete ALL of your iPhoto data files and LOSE your keywords and smart albums etc.
If that is the case, then: quit iPhoto; delete and re-create the "iPhoto Library" folder (this ensures that the hidden ".dot" files are also deleted); and remove the iphoto .plist file from your Library folder; these steps return iPhoto to virgin state.
I recommend the above action since by deleting "Originals" and "Modified" folders, you have created an inconsistency in the iPhoto database -- and that is the cause of all of your problems.
If that is the case, then: quit iPhoto; delete and re-create the "iPhoto Library" folder (this ensures that the hidden ".dot" files are also deleted); and remove the iphoto .plist file from your Library folder; these steps return iPhoto to virgin state.
I recommend the above action since by deleting "Originals" and "Modified" folders, you have created an inconsistency in the iPhoto database -- and that is the cause of all of your problems.
derajfast, I suspect most people have tuned out since you didn't seem to be following any of the advice you were given.
The first piece was simply to rebuild your iPhoto library. Instead, you seemed to try to reinstall iPhoto over the top which probably didn't help matters since the problem seemed to be in the iPhoto database rather than the apps.
As for the files hanging around in the old file structure? They were probably those that were in the trash in iPhoto 5 so they're left hanging. I just deleted them direct from the Finder since iPhoto 6 wasn't seeing them anyhow.
You need to learn patience, my friend. First in having people coming back to you and not jumping and doing something else in the meantime, and second in your system. You said you had a backup but you only waited 10 minutes before cancelling out of it. With 10,000 pictures, you're probably talking abotu several gigabytes of data; it was always going to take more than 10 minutes to restore.
The first piece was simply to rebuild your iPhoto library. Instead, you seemed to try to reinstall iPhoto over the top which probably didn't help matters since the problem seemed to be in the iPhoto database rather than the apps.
As for the files hanging around in the old file structure? They were probably those that were in the trash in iPhoto 5 so they're left hanging. I just deleted them direct from the Finder since iPhoto 6 wasn't seeing them anyhow.
You need to learn patience, my friend. First in having people coming back to you and not jumping and doing something else in the meantime, and second in your system. You said you had a backup but you only waited 10 minutes before cancelling out of it. With 10,000 pictures, you're probably talking abotu several gigabytes of data; it was always going to take more than 10 minutes to restore.
Don't know whether I should post here or in Buying Recommendations.
I'm really in 2 minds whether to buy iLife 06. The main attraction is iWeb as I need to put a web site together very soon (baby on the way). I am fairly familiar with HTML and have put a reasonable site together before using Frontpage. I've heard iWeb is pretty basic but I just don't the time or inclination to learn Dreamweaver and understand its pretty expensive as well.
Other than iWeb I don't really see any value in the rest of the suite. I've never used Garageband 05 and don't have a DVD burner so iDVD is out of the window as well. I'm happy with iPhoto 05 and would only upgrade to 06 for the the integration with iWeb. I've used iMovie once or twice, perhaps I'd use it more.
However, I have no intention of getting .Mac. I have a domain hosted that provides 2gb of storage and email. I've heard some people say that iWeb isn't worth it if you're not a .Mac user?
Should I take the plunge?
I'm really in 2 minds whether to buy iLife 06. The main attraction is iWeb as I need to put a web site together very soon (baby on the way). I am fairly familiar with HTML and have put a reasonable site together before using Frontpage. I've heard iWeb is pretty basic but I just don't the time or inclination to learn Dreamweaver and understand its pretty expensive as well.
Other than iWeb I don't really see any value in the rest of the suite. I've never used Garageband 05 and don't have a DVD burner so iDVD is out of the window as well. I'm happy with iPhoto 05 and would only upgrade to 06 for the the integration with iWeb. I've used iMovie once or twice, perhaps I'd use it more.
However, I have no intention of getting .Mac. I have a domain hosted that provides 2gb of storage and email. I've heard some people say that iWeb isn't worth it if you're not a .Mac user?
Should I take the plunge?
I think it's a good deal for you anyway. Full screen edit mode in iPhoto is great. iWeb is extremely easy to use, better for your purposes than Photoshop, and way easier than Dreamweaver. You'll likely want to use iMovie more soon as well, especially as your baby becomes mobile.
kerpow said:
I said that last year; that it was only iPhoto that I wanted the upgrade for. As it turns out, I bought a camcorder and iMovie was much used. Bear in mind that now with iDVD, you can save things to an disk image so that you could make a DVD and then burn it elsewhere.
The iPhoto 06 editing is much improved. Forget the one click effects but the full-screen mode is much easier to use; the compare option makes life a lot easier when you're going through the initial edit. I also like the card printing/ordering funtionality. I don't particularly use Garageband but the new podcast software doesn't just have to be used for that. You might end up using it when baby gets more talkative to record those first words and put the appropriate pictures alongside it?
So far as .mac goes, you can export out of iWeb to a folder and then up to an FTP site. It also asks you the name of your domain so that it can handle the internal links correctly. I've got .mac simply for ease of use. I no longer maintain a separate domain so it's justifiable to spend the cash on .mac for the simplicity and quickness.
Applespider said:
Thanks for the informative reply. You'll laugh but I really haven't used iPhoto for anything more than importing photos, grouping them and transferring them to my iPod. As far as editing is concerned how much can you do, I've seen cropping and red-eye control. Can you add layers like in Photoshop? Perhaps I ought to buy a book on it, I'm sure they'll be books for iLife 06 very shortly.
I think I will go ahead and buy it and try to take more of an interest in it. iLife 05 has been the sort of software that I know is there and potentially useful but I just haven't bothered to really learn how to use. I only switched last July after all.
I have absoultely no idea what iPhoto6 does or doesn't do but I will just say have you checked the persmissions on your iPhoto filesystem. Do you have write permission to folders for example. Are you restored backups read only?
I only say this as most of my iPhoto5 issues have been related to file / folder permissions.
(Changing permissions / owner from the Get Info window never seems to work for me (10.4.3) so it's terminal / chmod / chown all the way for me)
I only say this as most of my iPhoto5 issues have been related to file / folder permissions.
(Changing permissions / owner from the Get Info window never seems to work for me (10.4.3) so it's terminal / chmod / chown all the way for me)
Applespider said:
Agreed. Take a pill and chill. It'll all work out fine. Read through the thread again and actually read the suggestions this time.
kerpow said:
No, it's not that sophisticated. You can take out red-eye, you can crop and you have a 'retouch' tool which blurs around blemishes etc.
iPhoto 5 introduced an 'adjust' panel where you can change the tone/temperature, the exposure, the brightness, the contrast and sharpen the image using sliders. It also has a histogram so you can play with the black/white point and see what happens. There's an 'Enhance' button which basically does an auto-exposure/level/white balance but its mileage varies depending on the original shot. iPhoto 6 adds into that various 'one click' tools like Sepia, Saturate Colour, Matt Colour, Vignette etc. One good (or bad depending on your preferences) is that it has a 'Go to Original' image option so that if you really screw up, you can get the original back.
For quick shots, I tend to keep it in iPhoto. If it's a particularly good shot that I intend enlarging, then I'll put it into Photoshop and tweak in there.
How would I revert back to iPhoto 5? Will the ,original' file reimport to 5, or are they permanently changed to 6 only?
Abstract said:
look i am very angry about this and cannot wait to give apple a piece of my mind.....if i do not at least get ilife for free, i will flip out on them, after all the crap i have bought and been through and been treated like crap by them
and i did take everyones advice here, and none of it worked......i tried rebuilding the library, and that didnt work.....i treid reinstalling, that didnt work....etc.....ive tried every suggestion
so this is my new plan......
im going to delete iphoto, the iphoto library, all my pictures, everything....so its completely gone from my system
then im going to boot off of my external HD (lacie) since it has all my photos in iphoto there in ilife 05....then im going to install ilife 06 onto the external bootable iphoto.....copy those back over to my internal HD, then reinstall ilife 06 on the internal, and just copy and paste the "user--->pictures--->iphoto library" to my internal HD......should that work?
Onizuka said:
My dock died after iLife '06 install. Unless Apple themselves sent me a hacked version I guarantee you I have a legitimate retail version. I logged out and logged back in and the dock came back though.
Flowbee said:
Same here... not sure if I reinstalled iTunes or not... I might have been too lazy to uncheck the box and figured it wouldn't hurt to reinstall it anyway. But yeah... dock went ka boom.
OK, derajfast, let's start with exactly what you still have...
1. OS X on your current system with a borked version of iPhoto 6. Anything in the photo library? Are the other iApps working?
2. A backup on a LaCie drive? Is it a full bootable backup, is the iPhoto application itself there, or is it just your iPhoto library? How recent is the backup? Days, weeks?
1. OS X on your current system with a borked version of iPhoto 6. Anything in the photo library? Are the other iApps working?
2. A backup on a LaCie drive? Is it a full bootable backup, is the iPhoto application itself there, or is it just your iPhoto library? How recent is the backup? Days, weeks?
Applespider said:
ok the iphoto 6 on my internal drive is just bunk....so i deleted it....the program, the photos, everything......i had everything backed up via backup on my external HD to the day right before i installed ilife06....so my photos are on there....i also made that same external HD bootable, so i am using that now in target mode.....it has ilife 05 on it....so it has all the same pictures, but just in ilife 05....so i am going to install ilife 06 onto the bootable external
then i plan on installing iphoto 06 back on the internal since i deleted it, and copying the pictures from the externals "iphoto library" back....
if this is confusing to you, id be more then happy if you imed me and we talked about it there....itd probably be easier if you could.....
thanks
derajfast said:
I really don't think that's a good idea since if it screws up then you're going to be left with nothing. If you're sure that's what you really want to do, then you should take a copy of iPhoto 05 and your iPhoto Library - just stick _old on the copied version so that you still have them.
Why not try copying your iPhoto 5 back onto your proper HD, put the prefs file in the appropriate place and your iPhoto library in the proper place? Leave the backup as it is.
Open up iPhoto 5 and delete the trash from there. Then put in your iLife 06 disk, choose customise and just install iPhoto. Just a note; be prepared to leave it for a while when it's updating your library and thumbnails this time. Mine has 8000 pics and took about 25 minutes.
Applespider said:
well i dont have the ilife 05 disc....its at home and i am at college right now....i do have the pictures on my network at home too.....so this wouldnt ruin the backup either if ilife messes it up again...itd be a pain, but id still have the photos
so once ilife 06 is done installing on the external, and hopefully if everything goes smoothly, how would i copy all those photos and settings and albums from the external iphoto to the internal one?
ok well it seems that iphoto 6 is working fine on my external HD and that everything seems to be in order......now, how do i get the SAME EXACT setting and what not to my internal hd? i deleted iphoto from it before
so should i install iphoto 06 on it again, and then copy the "iphoto library" over to the User: Pictures folder?
or do i copy the folder first to user
ictures
or do i install iphoto and then go Import photos, and do it that way (but wouldnt this way not import them in their proper folders and what have you?)
so should i install iphoto 06 on it again, and then copy the "iphoto library" over to the User: Pictures folder?
or do i copy the folder first to user
icturesor do i install iphoto and then go Import photos, and do it that way (but wouldnt this way not import them in their proper folders and what have you?)
I'd install iPhoto 06 on the internal drive, make sure it's working, maybe import some random pictures just to ensure you're happy with it, then drag the iPhoto Library from the external to the internal's Pictures folder, replacing the one that's already there and meaning that next time you open iPhoto you should have a perfectly working library in front of you. How cool are run on sentences!
yeah i did that a little while ago, and lucky it works...for the most part......sometimes when i scroll pictures from 2002 are listed under like 1999 which is annoying....any way to change this? also, how can i make so it says the album or folder name when i scroll instead of "roll xxx" or whatever...thanks
also, how do i delete an iweb page, and why is the default in another language
also, how do i delete an iweb page, and why is the default in another language
derajfast said:
Well, the date stamps in iPhoto are editable to the best of my knowledge so I guess your best bet is to either manually change their date stamps in the information panel one by one or to set up an Automator task to do it for you (if possible).
derajfast said:
Sorry, but all I know is that there is a toggle for this feature in the Preferences, under the Appearance tab. I don't know that you can change what scrolling information shows up though.
derajfast said:
Select it in iWeb and press delete. Alternatively, select it, delete it, go into your iDisk and empty your iWeb folder and then holding OPTION, select Publish All To .Mac from the File menu. The first part will remove your site and the second will resynchronise it with .Mac.
derajfast said:
It's Lorem Ipsum which is a special designer's language. It essentially means nothing but it has similar characteristics to English in terms of its layout and is therefore a good filler language to let designers work out what their sites look like with text, without actually being distracted by text (if that makes sense). Thanks to DavidLeblond for pointing this out to me, I thought it was Latin.