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Thanks.

That sounds like heaven for parents with kids. Nothing like an iPad to keep kids busy!

My wife, kids (2 1/2 y/o daughter and 3 month old son) and mother-in-law just flew back to Japan last week. Usually the iPad will keep my daughter busy for hours. We usually have to force it away from her. Apparently the flight from NYC to Seoul, then Fukuoka she had no interest in the iPad. Just wanted to be a pain in the butt the whole time. They come back in March without my mother-in-law. I hope flight is better on the way back.
 
Should I admit that I've been doing this already? This myth was busted years ago, though I'm glad I won't have to hide my earbuds in my shirt anymore.

Karma will come around. You'll see...

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And seeing how I haven't turned off my phone in years while flying this has zero impact to me.
Feel that tapping on your shoulders. It's death...
 
Are you a pilot? I have three close family members who have a combined 50+ years of commercial pilot experience and all of them agree wholeheartedly with the FAA's lifting of the restriction. Whenever I ask them about it, they roll their eyes and say the restriction on electronic devices was completely unnecessary and ridiculous.

They must already have one foot in the grave to make such comments.
Are they scientists to of radio interference and electronics?
 
"Usually" a few minutes affair? Most people don't 'hang out' on their phones for hours either. If you haven't experienced two people talking loudly during an entire 2+ hour flight--either next to you or behind you--then you just haven't quite flown enough yet. Give it some time. Next thing you're going to tell me is that the screaming baby on a flight is just a myth...:rolleyes:

I'm a platinum mileage plus member, and by the way, I fly first class. Every time. For Free.
Ok, I guess you are right, must be hard back there in economy.
 
Heaven forbid people put away their digital pacifiers for a moment.

It really is pathetic that people can't go without there devices, it's more about people paying attention to safety briefings they sit there ignoring the info given to them believing they know everything already, but then proceed to have no idea even when the seat belt signs are on!? Letting them use there phones even more beggars belief:(

Please. Are there places in life people should put away their digital pacifiers? Sure. I'd support getting off your phones in the car or at dinner with other human beings. But a plane? For some people, that's the only downtime they get. It's the perfect place to read and listen to music.

I've flown enough I could give the safety briefing myself. I'd rather listen to some tunes.

And a HUGE issue that a lot of you guys are missing is with people who are irritable and afraid of flying... the majority of this class being children. It's always been tough for many families to have their kids with nothing to do but concentrate on the plane which can be very frightening. It's nice that this option will now exist for those who want to take their mind off the flight.

And hey, if you're too good for it, you're still welcome to turn your devices off below 10,000 feet... which for a lot of regional and commuter flights is almost the entire trip.
 
I agree with you. I have no desire to take a call while on the plane and everyone can hear what I am saying.

I do like being able to keep the music going during taxi etc. There have been times where the flight is delayed after leaving the gate and we sit there for an hour or so. It will be nice now to listen to the music without feeling like I am breaking the law.

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Where did you see this? I do not see it on delta.com.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-first-submit-plan-allow-142500316.html

And, the news was all the buzz at the office today (I work for DL).
 
They must already have one foot in the grave to make such comments.
Are they scientists to of radio interference and electronics?

You're being a bit melodramatic. They may not be "scientists of radio interference and electronics" but commercial pilots are very well trained in the use of aviation instruments. I'll take their opinion on electronic interference in an airplane over anonymous internet forum participants. But that's just me...:rolleyes:
 
This all seems reasonable....

Maybe Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (where available on-board) is less prone to interference with on-board gizmos.

In any case, it's not really a big issue... we are only talking what........ few minutes or so take off and landings ??

You can use them in-flight.... People can't wait this long ??
 
I'm a platinum mileage plus member, and by the way, I fly first class. Every time. For Free.
Ok, I guess you are right, must be hard back there in economy.

Well, look at you! I'm just lowly silver, lucky to get the occasional free upgrade. But when I do, man do I laugh and point at the economy schleps as they pass me going down the aisle! :D

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This all seems reasonable....

Maybe Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (where available on-board) is less prone to interference with on-board gizmos.

In any case, it's not really a big issue... we are only talking what........ few minutes or so take off and landings ??

You can use them in-flight.... People can't wait this long ??

When is it ever only a "few minutes" between closing the forward door and reaching 10,000 ft? I'd say it averages about 20-30 minutes. Or like Chicago last week for me, 45 minutes.
 
It really is pathetic that people can't go without there devices, it's more about people paying attention to safety briefings they sit there ignoring the info given to them believing they know everything already, but then proceed to have no idea even when the seat belt signs are on!? Letting them use there phones even more beggars belief:(

You need to get some perspective. I'm in a plane twice a week and many others are too. In my life I have seen security briefings more often than many young flight attendants. I'm sure I could do the briefing without practicing myself.

The point is that as soon as I get on the plane that is the only time I have some time for myself without being disturbed. It's nice to read a book on my iPad or Kindle. That is convenient because I can choose to read a Harvard Business Review article or a book I have saved. It has got nothing to do with being connected or being addicted to technology. I would be just as annoyed when someone would tell me that the only allowed reading is the snot and puke -covered in-flight magazine with the great selection of second-rate perfumes and cheap watches.
 
Well, look at you! I'm just lowly silver, lucky to get the occasional free upgrade. But when I do, man do I laugh and point at the economy schleps as they pass me going down the aisle! :D

LMAO! :D True. I used to do that when I was silver too. Once you hit gold, it evolves to giving them the dirty look 'who are you and why are you here'. Once Platinum, you just avoid eye contact with 'them'.

But then again, it really means I have no life (outside the plane), and they do, so the joke is on me!
 
Are you a pilot? I have three close family members who have a combined 50+ years of commercial pilot experience and all of them agree wholeheartedly with the FAA's lifting of the restriction. Whenever I ask them about it, they roll their eyes and say the restriction on electronic devices was completely unnecessary and ridiculous.

I used to fly but don't have a commercial license. I do have decades of electronic experience (including avionics interfacing and FCC computer interference approvals... you'd be amazed what cables can pick up), and have read all the NASA airline pilot electronic reports.

I'm sure that your family members have not had a bad experience, and that's great. Good for them and I hope it's always that way. (Do they have electronic engineering experience?)

Meanwhile, other pilots have filed reports where autopilots have disengaged, navigation instruments have acted up, and TCAS alerts have shown up as being right off the tail (zero distance)... possibly due to a passenger device being in a row over the antenna cable running through the fuselage... causing the pilots to take unnecessary evasive measures.

I think that, due to both luck and skill, passenger electronic interference has not been a deadly problem. Heck, it might even be rare these days. But you know what? Some of the worst airliner accidents have come from miscommunications and/or a distracted crew. In flying, there's never a good reason to tempt fate just because you can.

More importantly, decisions like this should not be left up to the airlines themselves. Historically, they have always chosen the cheapest method of doing something. That's why I'd like the manufacturer themselves to certify each plane type.

(Last year, Boeing was doing just that, certifying a WiFi installation on some 737 models. That's when they accidentally found that a runaway power glitch on a test device ramped up the WiFi output enough to cause the pilots' display panels to blank out. Not something you'd want while landing in the rain at night, that's for sure. So why keep WiFi on, and tempt fate? As you get older, you learn that it's always better to be safe than sorry.)
 
For a 10 minute takeoff and 20 landing you people seem to beotch about it waaaaay too much.
Turn it off for a few minutes. OMFG OMG OMG OMG...

hahahaha
 
The plural form of "anecdote" is not "data."

You seem to misunderstand that quite a bit, especially for someone with you "experience."
 
When is it ever only a "few minutes" between closing the forward door and reaching 10,000 ft? I'd say it averages about 20-30 minutes. Or like Chicago last week for me, 45 minutes.

They don't close the door AFTER you leave the ground..
 
I used to fly but don't have a commercial license. I do have decades of electronic experience (including avionics interfacing and FCC computer interference approvals... you'd be amazed what cables can pick up), and have read all the NASA airline pilot electronic reports.

I'm sure that your family members have not had a bad experience, and that's great. Good for them and I hope it's always that way. (Do they have electronic engineering experience?)

Meanwhile, other pilots have filed reports where autopilots have disengaged, navigation instruments have acted up, and TCAS alerts have shown up as being right off the tail (zero distance)... possibly due to a passenger device being in a row over the antenna cable running through the fuselage... causing the pilots to take unnecessary evasive measures.

I think that, due to both luck and skill, passenger electronic interference has not been a deadly problem. Heck, it might even be rare these days. But you know what? Some of the worst airliner accidents have come from miscommunications and/or a distracted crew. In flying, there's never a good reason to tempt fate just because you can.

More importantly, decisions like this should not be left up to the airlines themselves. Historically, they have always chosen the cheapest method of doing something. That's why I'd like the manufacturer themselves to certify each plane type.

(Last year, Boeing was doing just that, certifying a WiFi installation on some 737 models. That's when they accidentally found that a runaway power glitch on a test device ramped up the WiFi output enough to cause the pilots' display panels to blank out. Not something you'd want while landing in the rain at night, that's for sure. So why keep WiFi on, and tempt fate? As you get older, you learn that it's always better to be safe than sorry.)

I don't doubt that there have been instances of interference. There's inherent risk in flying anyway, because what goes up, might come crashing down. I personally believe the rate of occurrence where it could cause a major issue falls within the zone of acceptable risk. And I believe the FAA is finally recognizing that, thank goodness.

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They don't close the door AFTER you leave the ground..

I left a few steps out:

1. close forward door
2. push back from gate
3. taxi to runway
4. takeoff
5. Reach 10,000 ft.

Is that better? I guess I took for granted that people would understand what I meant.
 
Thank god that ugly, overpaid bitter crone can't threaten me with criminal prosecution because I merely put my phone in standby mode rather than yanking the battery as she commanded.
 
For a 10 minute takeoff and 20 landing you people seem to beotch about it waaaaay too much.
Turn it off for a few minutes. OMFG OMG OMG OMG...

hahahaha

In the same manner, you please put away your books and magazines and look at the chair in front or at the McDonalds meal that your neighbour is eating next to you for ten minutes as the plane ascends.

It's not about technology or any hypothetical addiction to it. But some people like you are too thick to understand that.
 
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