First off, unless that mole protrudes it will not be detected. Second, why don't you know this? Do you still not understand how this tech works even though you're obviously so critical of it?
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Face ID Appears to Fail at Telling Apart Brothers Who Aren't Twins in New Videos [Updated]
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First off, unless that mole protrudes it will not be detected. Second, why don't you know this? Do you still not understand how this tech works even though you're obviously so critical of it?
Seriously, read the article and you will realize why people (very few) are able to fool the system within such a short time.
Magical. Sort of Face/off kind of stuff.
This sort of stuff was bound to happen as everyone is testing the hell out of it! I'll bet YouTube will be flooded with similar videos....
Did you consider that it can become more accurate and more lax at the same time? Because I'm pretty sure that would be the goal.
Also consider that every time these people unlock the phone successfully with each other's face, it's now learning to accept both of those facial maps. Just by testing and proving this they are increasing the accuracy for both faces.
A mole or glasses are not facial features. Facial features include cheekbones, the distance between your eyes and or ears, distance between forehead, cheekbones, chin, nose, eyes, ears, etc. Anything that 'could' be used as a disguise would not qualify as a 'facial identifier'. I could easily add a mole or glasses. A mustache, fake teeth, even the color of my eyes. It's going to be difficult to manipulate bone structure.
Can we wait for the validity of these videos and claims BEFORE we make accusations?
Can we wait for the validity of these videos and claims BEFORE we make accusations?
To be fair:
1. My brother is not the person I'm worried about stealing my phone and being able to access it.
2. These two are so alike, I'm still not sure they're not identical twins. I look a lot like my brother, but if the similarity between these two is what it takes, he has no chance of getting into my phone. These guys seriously look like the exact same person, before and after having their first kid.
1. My brother is not the person I'm worried about stealing my phone and being able to access it.
2. These two are so alike, I'm still not sure they're not identical twins. I look a lot like my brother, but if the similarity between these two is what it takes, he has no chance of getting into my phone. These guys seriously look like the exact same person, before and after having their first kid.
Apple Defense Force in full swing I see. A fail is a fail. No matter how you spin it.
They were already pretty clear about this particular issue in both the keynote and in subsequent product support notes. They don’t need to explain any further - these are brothers who look quite similar. What more do you want?
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Demonstrating documented expected behavior isn’t a fail. It’s validation.
What are you talking about? All of those things are facial features, and are used as identifiers (with the exception of teeth) in most other devices that have "inferior" facial recognition.
Why would that happen?
Most people are intelligent and know that after two (I think that's the number) failed recognition attempts the phone requires a passcode. Think about it. And the probability of a random person looking just like you being able to get in.
Re read my post. I state that a mole or glasses are NOT facial identifiers and go on to give what a facial identifier is.
Trying to keep a conversation grounded in reality without flying off into believing every thing you see due to confirmation bias is not defending. As an engineer, the sheer stupidity of some people forces me to respond.
That's image based facial recognition. Go figure out how this works...get a clue.
Forget the two similar looking brothers in the Reddit video. This is all you need to see (as linked previously by others):
Those two half-brothers aren't anywhere NEAR similar enough in appearance or age that Face ID should unlock for both. PERIOD.
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It's FIVE failed attempts, not two.
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Those two half-brothers aren't anywhere NEAR similar enough in appearance or age that Face ID should unlock for both. PERIOD.
Mark
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It's FIVE failed attempts, not two.
Mark
Haven't we already seen this in this thread multiple times? I believe we've already gone over many times how this could happen.
You ask: Why is it that society must always try to make something fail or find fault?
Answer: Firstly it has nothing to do with "society"! People do this because that's how improvements are made!! Determining flaws and weaknesses are a MASSIVE part of IT/technology/engineering industries and other industries. If we choose to flippantly turn a blind eye to these things then the world would be in a complete and utter mess and there would be no progress.
This is a SECOND video with the two half-brothers. A lot of people assumed it was the same one posted. But, yes, it was previously linked. Too few people realized it was a SECOND video.
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That's what I'm saying, what these people are doing is essentially creating a map of two faces in the database that is going to start recognizing them both more and more accurately.
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Funny, I saw both of those videos further back in the thread but you've posted it again. And again, pay attention to what is being said...
LOL. All I can really do is laugh, sorry. A much younger brother unlocks his older brothers phone with his face. C'mon Apple!