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Expect more stories like this in the next couple of weeks....and shills desperately trying to downplay it.
I’m trying to downplay it because I’m a reasonable person. Not a shill. I’d love a paycheck from Apple for arguing against fear and ignorance, but it’s not gonna happen.
 
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And NO ONE HAS to buy it. And with all the negative things that you have to say, people still buy them. If it was that much of a "flaw" no one would buy it.

While many can agree with your sentiments, the numbers don't lie. People have been lining up and throwing apple money for phones since the day they were released. They don't care about humps or notches. They care about latest and greatest, and can't wait for the notchless iPhone XI, because they're going to buy that one too.

Hell, they even bought them when they didn't work... antenna gate anyone?

It makes no difference to me how many they sell. I liked them because they put so much obvious time and effort into making the best products they possibly could. I just don't understand why they compromise today, when they so plainly don't have to cut corners. They used not to cut corners because Jobs' insane commitment and vision, and while that isn't possible to get back, they are doing so well they don't have put out almost-great stuff.
 



With the iPhone X now in the hands of thousands of customers around the world, many early adopters are putting Face ID to the test to see if Apple's facial authentication system is as secure as it advertises.

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Apple says the probability that a random person in the population could look at someone else's iPhone X and unlock it using Face ID is approximately 1 in 1,000,000, compared to 1 in 50,000 for Touch ID, but it notes the probability of a false match is different for twins and siblings who look like you.

We've already seen that Face ID can be fooled by identical twins, and now a video shared on Reddit appears to confirm that Face ID can sometimes fail to distinguish between siblings who aren't twins but have similar appearances.

In the video, the sibling who set up Face ID on his iPhone X was able to unlock the device with his face as expected. Next, he handed the iPhone to his brother. Face ID didn't authenticate his brother's face upon first attempt, but once he put on a pair of black rim glasses, his face was able to unlock the iPhone X.

Apple has been very transparent that Face ID can be less reliable in these situations, so the video doesn't come across as a PR disaster in the making for the company. But, it does visualize that Face ID isn't 100 percent failproof.

For those concerned about the security of their iPhone X in these cases, Apple's only recommendation is to use a traditional passcode instead of Face ID for authentication. Unfortunately, at least for the time being, that means disabling one of the key new features of a smartphone that costs at least $1,000.

Article Link: Face ID Appears to Fail at Telling Apart Brothers Who Aren't Twins in New Video
This could be a dealbreaker for companies, though. I really don’t want my employer disabling Face ID. Hopefully Apple can tighten up security with software updates.
 
"a smartphone that costs at least $1,000". Really MR? $1,000 seems to be a magic number for the media and some people. Just last year, the 7 plus cost over a $1,000 USD with taxes and fees... the actual amount a user will spend, which is more important than the sticker price.

Even 2nd tier smartphones like the Pixel 2 XL costs over $1,000 with taxes and fees, so it's not like X is breaking new ground here.
 
Don’t forget that a large percentage of people never set up a security code or activate TouchID. Apple requires that a security code is activated only if you want to use iCloud. Most iPhone users have no clue about iCloud or anything else besides browsing Facebook on their phone.

If you like TouchID better, get an iPhone 8.

I don't disagree, although more users may try face ID who would not have used Touch ID, if only for the novelty since it's a banner feature of the phone.

Also, the fact that some choose to not use a security feature is not a reasonable argument against the failings of that feature.
 
Another Face ID fail video...this time with half-brothers

Ouch, if that's genuine, that's probably the worst (for security) example I've yet seen.

Can you imagine a Bank seeing this and thinking, yes, we're happy with this for security.
 
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Apple says 1:1 000 000, so logically Apple has allowed for 7 000 people to access each phone, given the world population is 7 billion, so 7 000 is 1:1 000 000 of the population...Apple a rethink needed!!!

Actually, in this case, it's "...The statistical probability is different for twins and siblings that look like you..." To me these two brothers, although not twins, have very similar features including almost the same style of frame. The shape of their face, nose, etc. I'd like to see what happens to siblings with only a slight resemblance or how about strangers who look very similar to each other. Those scenarios would be interesting to see.
 
I love all these videos popping up because I've yet to see one that actually shows them setting up the phone from scratch before doing the "testing".

Per Apple, only a SINGLE face can be registered with Face ID. So there's ZERO chance that the brother had his face registered in the device too.

Despite Apple's warnings about twins and siblings, these two brothers simply don't look similar enough that Face ID should have been fooled. Hell, the glasses were key and the glasses aren't even the same shape.

I suspect it won't be long before we have a video of two completely unrelated people unlocking the same iPhone X using Face ID.

Mark
 
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Not really a big deal unless you are so concerned that your sibling or identical twin is going to get into your phone. Pretty sure it will keep strangers out of your phone.
 
It's a convenience. If you really need security use a complex password and not face ID. The end.
 
Pointless comment.
Face ID needs to be spot on from the get go. The amount of critical data that’s sits in people’s phones is unreal

Dont think many siblings would do something "evil" with that "critical" data. And that a thief look like you and manage to steal your phone is not so big risk ^^
 
Ouch, if that's genuine, that's probably the worst (for security) example I've yet seen.

Can you imagine a Bank seeing this and thinking, yes, we're happy with this for security.

You know that rumour that said Apple lowered the FaceID standard to get more dot projectors manufactured quicker?

Yeah.
 
Do they ever?
Of course they do, but maybe you should try and apply scientific method to understand what happens in that video before you run screaming.

That boy when he as old as his brother will look nothing like him and just because he younger than 13 his facial features just randomly match his brothers features enough for hm to be able to unlock.

I have 3 brothers and none of them were able to unlock my X. Ages 31, 30, and 27. I am 33 myself.
 
But does the owner have to do the swipe....

I don't believe the phone has a way to distinguish between the owner doing the swipe and someone else doing it. I would assume there's a timeout on the sequence that requires a swipe within a few seconds of a successful Face ID recognition.
 
Lol,it just gets better .... my brothers finger looks similar to mine, but his is 5 years younger and his NEVER unlocked my phone with TouchID.

Progress.....

It’s actually hilarious to read everyone defending this fail :p but wait, FaceID is sooo much more secure than TouchID, right, Apple? :rolleyes::rolleyes::p
 
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