Touch ID is 1:50 000 (or 140 000 people) and it has never been an issue.
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Face ID Appears to Fail at Telling Apart Brothers Who Aren't Twins in New Videos [Updated]
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TouchID is less secure, so what you just posted makes no sense unless you're arguing for requiring both touch and face id.
Why did Apple use the 1:1 000 000 stat, why not the 1: 7 600 000 000? 1 in 1 million is a very low number, given that the population is 7 billion, so therefore 7 600 people are assumed to look like you.. Apple used crappy stats...Any idiot knows it is illogical to assume 7000 people will look like you..so why did Apple use a stupid stat???
That was one of glaring issues of Face ID. Apple can say that it’s “overall" false positive error rate is much better than TouchID, however you can’t tell visually if someone has a finger print close to yours (without closely examining their finger print). However you can easily visually see if someone’s face look like yours. Also siblings (twins or not) are much more likely to “look” like each other than their finger prints be a match. Typically people are around their siblings more often than their fingerprint doppelgänger.
Lol,it just gets better .... my brothers finger looks similar to mine, but his is 5 years younger and his NEVER unlocked my phone with TouchID.
Progress.....
Progress.....
Pointless comment.
Face ID needs to be spot on from the get go. The amount of critical data that’s sits in people’s phones is unreal
apologist here 
Phil Schiller did say in the keynote that the chances of another person unlocking your iPhone with Face ID are higher if "that person shares a close genetic relationship with you". Full brothers have 50% of their genes in common.
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Because as a society we learn and improve by looking at failures and faults which in turn makes things better.
This. This. THIS! But sure let's go off.
The glasses seemed to be a common feature in fooling the phone. Yes, they look similar, as do most closely related people. If that's enough to break face id security, then it's not ready for prime time. At least family members have different finger prints ...
Also, on a slightly different tack, does anyone know how persistent the IR light is? What triggers the infrared on/off while the phone is being used?
That is not true... We learned from the failure of the Concorde and where is it's replacement?? We know cars crash, and driverless cars crash..so what have we learned???? Nothing!!!
Am I the only one who think they look pretty identical? Now considering only the chances of someone else unlocking your phone in the world is 1:1000000, to me I would think your relatives who look very similar to you would be the most likely candidates to unlock your phone lol. Their a much higher chance that someone in your family will look similar to you than someone in a completely different part of the world.
Not quite, because the actual data entry is a limiting factor when it comes to passcodes (you can't brute force it because the time between entries goes up exponentially).
You have all the time and resources in the world to find a facial match in an external database, though, if you really want to find someone else to unlock the phone. You could predict whether or not the unlock will work much better than you could ever predict the success of a guessed passcode.
Wait a minute, don't you have to scan your face twice in order to setup the phone? So what if one brother scanned once, and the other brother scanned once? Could that fool the phone?
*Someone confirmed that they were able to fool the Face ID by doing exactly that. Simply have both faces scanned during the setup and you both can unlock the phone.*
*Someone confirmed that they were able to fool the Face ID by doing exactly that. Simply have both faces scanned during the setup and you both can unlock the phone.*
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People seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what odds signify, and the practical application of odds to determine the probability of an event actually occurring.
First, the 1:1,000,000 odds are the odds of two people having the same facial features--not the odds of randomly holding up the phone to anyone in the general population and hoping it unlocks. In other words, it is not the equivalent of guessing a passcode.
Why does this matter? With FaceID you also narrow the odds significantly by starting with an identical twin (or in this case brothers that look almost exactly alike). The phone allows 5 attempts. Under those circumstances it's almost certain that the phone will unlock.
Conversely, if Obama and Trump both had iPhone Xs, the odds of them being able to unlock each other's phones via FaceID is zero.
Similarly, with a passcode, the practical application is what matters, not the sheer odds. If one could attempt to enter the passcode any number of times, the phone will eventually unlock by brute force. The odds are not relevant. What is relevant is the 10 attempts limitation, which results in odds of 1:100,000 that someone may guess correctly.
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Unlike fingerprints you can easily spot those whose phones you might be able to unlock with face id.
The fact that they never show the set-up process makes this highly questionable.
Apple always said that if someone shared a close family resemblance that the probability is lower. And let's not forget. This video was made with the phone being just set up. And Face ID did not unlock instantly. So neural engine probably thought at the start it was someone else, but as they resemble each other and the neural network did not get to learn the face over any period of time, it probably assumed that they were the same person.
Face ID will can fail if there is a close family resemblance and Apple has always said that. And I think this will be a non issue after a couple of days and several dozen unlocks from the same person. Because then the neural engine will have trained so much that it will be able to distinguish between the two.
look face ID might be a great idea, not sure about legally, if the police want to investigate, if you hold up the phone, you are toast. With a pass code, you can enter the wrong code and wipe the phone, just waiting for the first lawsuit to hit Tim's desk...I think face ID might be banned...
How about just bringing back Touch ID as a freaking option, Cook, or are fingers going the way of DVD/CDs, USB 3.0, Thunderbolt, and all of the other things Apple deems as useless simply to make all of their devices thin enough so Jony Ive can shave his head with them?
They didn't assume that 7000 people will look like you. They deduced through mathematics that this is the chance of a *random* person being able to unlock your device.
"1 in 1 million is a very low number". The chance of you getting struck by lightning during your life time is 1 in 10,000.
So just let that sink in and re-think your perspective of odds.