No it won't. Apple clearly states that not every scan is used to train the network. If the neural network determines that the picture is not of good quality, then it simply will be rejected. A neural network needs training, and it clearly wasn't offered in this case. It will probably be much harder for his brother to access his phone after the first 100 scans or so.
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Face ID Appears to Fail at Telling Apart Brothers Who Aren't Twins in New Videos [Updated]
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That’s a tragedy. Now the only thing that a thief has to do is to travel around looking for that one person that looks exactly like him and then steal is iPhone X...
Sounds like a plan.
Sounds like a plan.
You waited till next year because you either can’t afford it or need to justify the fact that you couldn’t get it. This Face ID works fast and perfectly. You are missing out. Trust me it’s not in beta.
Face Id and the true depth camera have been completely disabled on my phone and will not turn back on. The rear camera does not work either. I'm pissed.
Which makes the situation worse, since it learns more variation of allowable unlocks. Your head with beard, your head with glasses, getting fatter, different ways your hair goes over your face.
1:1 000 000 does't mean 7000 people look like you. It only mean there are possibly 7000 people that have the same (or vey similar) set of facial characteristics (that Face ID uses) as you.
The fact that the phone moves out of shot between each of the brothers has me thinking.... could they just be using two different handsets?
how long have you been dying to post this??? LMAO geez...iphone is find, face id is solid
Yes, but you can't have everything. Apple for sure could have pumped the security and made the chances of a false positive higher, but what good would that have been!? Then the user experience would be really bad.
Exactly! People need to learn some basic statistics, basic genetics, and also use some common sense.
Statistics: The odds of finding a RANDOM person who will be able to unlock your phone is 1:1000000. Random is the key word.
Genetics: You share much more DNA with an immediate family member than with a random person. Therefore, the odds of looking alike are much greater within families.
Common Sense: THEY LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE!!!
The tragedy here is that if a sufficient number of idiots starts making PR noise about nonsense like this we might end up with limitations on FaceID...you know, banks not allowing Face ID because it’s “not secure enough” while allowing people to input their precious 4 digit pins in the wild as if that was not something infinitely less secure than Face ID.
I do wish people would stop saying it's 1 : 1,000,000 odds.
Yes Apple said that in their Presentation/Advert for a product they wanted to sell.
But that does not make it a fact.
I'm sure we are all intelligent to understand this is a calculated/estimated number, using much smaller amounts of data to come up with a nice BIG number of 1 million.
You would never gather data and hit exactly a million dead on anyway, so it's obviously a made up number.
Note: I'm not saying it's a deliberate lie. But we must understand it's not fact, it's a estimation based just on their own data sample. Nothing more.
Yes Apple said that in their Presentation/Advert for a product they wanted to sell.
But that does not make it a fact.
I'm sure we are all intelligent to understand this is a calculated/estimated number, using much smaller amounts of data to come up with a nice BIG number of 1 million.
You would never gather data and hit exactly a million dead on anyway, so it's obviously a made up number.
Note: I'm not saying it's a deliberate lie. But we must understand it's not fact, it's a estimation based just on their own data sample. Nothing more.
Not to me. I actually am using it and it’s polished and smooth. If you read only the negativity on the blogosphere, then yes it seems like a beta product. Lol.
But was not fooled a countless number of time. Do you take this into account?
I wonder if John Woo ever thought 20 years ago, that there may come a time when the FBI actually wanted to take a guy's face off?
Possibly because when he set up his faceID he wore his glasses. I would imagine the software keys in on a majority of the points being a match and with similar glasses it may fool the software.
If the intention is to make the phone secure, rather than demonstrate a failure, I would suggest that the brother owning the phone should take his glasses of when he does the initial setup of the face recondition. And then consolidate by him using the phone a number of times before giving his similar-looking brother a try. I suspect this would be the end of this particular story
They aren't saying iPhone X is a bad device; they are simply testing the limits of this particular technology. Knowing those limits helps everyone.