I agree - my concerns are how will this be implemented? Auto unlock opens up a whole can of worms' the LE comment was its one case where it would have significant impact on one's 5th amendment rights in the US.
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Face ID Described as iPhone 8's 'Crown Jewel', Unlocking Device in 'A Few Hundred Milliseconds'
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I agree - my concerns are how will this be implemented? Auto unlock opens up a whole can of worms' the LE comment was its one case where it would have significant impact on one's 5th amendment rights in the US.
Perhaps everyone is thinking backwards.
What if it auto-RE-locks the moment it sees an unregistered face ?
That takes care of most privacy problems. But it raises other problems, such as if you wanted to actually LET someone else use your phone, and to allow a slight delay to use Apple Pay.
So, in that case, would need some kind of override to PREVENT locking.
There is bound to be a system in place for such an event, I suppose if push came to shove one could always use the good old fashioned pin to unlock. Perhaps using that would override an automatic lock?
I’m definitely curious to see how Apple are going to handle all of the different use cases and simultaneously alleviate everyone’s concerns if they completely abandon traditional Touch ID.
If you are unhappy with the security of Touch ID, which had been tested to death for reliability and security by Apple as well: why are you so optimistic about Face ID?
At which point did I say I was unhappy with traditional Touch ID? I love it, I use it every single time I unlock my iPhone and iPad. It’s fast, secure and simple.
If you’re referring to the comment about being fooled by photos/contact lenses, that obviously isn’t anything to do with Touch ID as none of those things are applicable to it, you’d have a hard time unlocking Touch ID with your eyeball
That’s a reference to how hopeless the Samsung face unlock is when it comes to security.
It might be able to be fooled by a 3D bust, but then, TouchId was easily fooled by a glue print copy and no one cared
Not to mention that it's a lot easier to secretly use Apple Pay with a fake print overlaid on a thief's finger, than it would ever be for a thief to stand in line carrying someone's bust and pointing the phone at it!
I think the latter would give him away
It might be able to be fooled by a 3D bust, but then, TouchId was easily fooled by a glue print copy and no one cared
Not to mention that it's a lot easier to secretly use Apple Pay with a fake print overlaid on a thief's finger, than it would ever be for a thief to stand in line carrying someone's bust and pointing the phone at it!
I think the latter would give him away
Ha, so true, though I would like to hear their fumbling excuses. I, er, I never use my own eye in case someone gouges it out of my noggin, I prefer the safety of a finely crafted bust. Honest guv’nor.
At which point did I say I was unhappy with traditional Touch ID? I love it, I use it every single time I unlock my iPhone and iPad. It’s fast, secure and simple.
If you’re referring to the comment about being fooled by photos/contact lenses, that obviously isn’t anything to do with Touch ID as none of those things are applicable to it, you’d have a hard time unlocking Touch ID with your eyeball
My bad, I misinterpreted the part with the photo since that’s pretty much all it takes to get a fingerprint to fool Touch ID, as the CCC proofed when the 5s introduced this feature.