Lol why are you worried about the ease of use opening your phone when you shouldn’t be accessing the phone at all while driving?
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Face ID in iPhone X vs. 'Face Unlock' Facial Recognition in OnePlus 5T
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Lol why are you worried about the ease of use opening your phone when you shouldn’t be accessing the phone at all while driving?
Is it faster than Touch ID? No ****ing way, but it is what it is. I hate double click Side button to install the app. Why? I hate iOS notifications. Group them suckers. For any and every action where you need to click Side button and use Face ID, Touch ID is/was waaaaay faster, because Home button and Touch ID is one. X, I miss landscape orientation from plus models. Face ID doesn't work well with my winter jacket (nose covered). You definitely need a nose to unlock with Face ID.
i sometimes forget it's there. and it's definitely more convenient for apps that get unlocked with it, because you don't have to do anything.
but it can be annoying, when you have to pick it up to unlock it, when you would just put your finger on it with touchID. but these are very rare cases for me.
but it can be annoying, when you have to pick it up to unlock it, when you would just put your finger on it with touchID. but these are very rare cases for me.
Security is an arms race. If you can get an order of magntitude greater security with little or no increase in inconvenience, why not?
It’s actually been disclosed by Apple that a failed Face ID attempt followed by a successful passcode login causes Face ID to save the data from the unsuccessful Face ID attempt and uses it to learn and modify the dataset of successful Face ID matches. Try it for yourself. After a failed attempt, passcode login, the immediately try Face ID from the same angle again.
I think a lot of naysayers should give it a real shot before criticizing. I was a big naysayer, then I finally decided to try it out a couple of days ago when the X was in stock at my local Best Buy. Many of my complaints about Touch ID being more convenient ended up being mitigated by the fact that Face ID works REALLY well at a LOT of angles. I already had an angled stand on my desk and to be able to literally glance with my eyes at the phone when a notification lights it up, and see the notification reveal itself - that's just plain awesome.
That said, there is one situation causing me problems, and might even be a deal killer since it's a regular daily part of my life - sunglasses. I wear them, a lot (when I'm not at my desk). To get it to work with sunglasses you either have to have lighter sunglasses where your eyes are relatively visible, or you have to turn off the "Require Attention" option so it doesn't require your eyes looking at it. When I turn that off, it quickly learned my face with sunglasses on. But I don't want that turned off as it's slightly less secure and gives me less control over the unlocking process.
This is a problem in the car as well where I pretty much always have sunglasses on. That's the one place where it needs to be as convenient as possible. Yes, I look at my phone in the car. It controls what I listen to and it's no different than looking down to change the radio station on my dash. I will also read and occasionally respond to a text, especially from my wife, at a stop light (*gasp*).
Touch ID also seems to be a bit faster overall as well. But Face ID saves you the "trouble" of having to do an extra gesture to touch a button. It sounds silly, but it's pretty slick.
Point being, Face ID is really freakin' cool and generally speaking works great. However, it loses a bit of the pragmatism that comes with the mature, speedy, and practical Touch ID.
And 6 pages into a MR post, there's no way my entire comment will be read...
That said, there is one situation causing me problems, and might even be a deal killer since it's a regular daily part of my life - sunglasses. I wear them, a lot (when I'm not at my desk). To get it to work with sunglasses you either have to have lighter sunglasses where your eyes are relatively visible, or you have to turn off the "Require Attention" option so it doesn't require your eyes looking at it. When I turn that off, it quickly learned my face with sunglasses on. But I don't want that turned off as it's slightly less secure and gives me less control over the unlocking process.
This is a problem in the car as well where I pretty much always have sunglasses on. That's the one place where it needs to be as convenient as possible. Yes, I look at my phone in the car. It controls what I listen to and it's no different than looking down to change the radio station on my dash. I will also read and occasionally respond to a text, especially from my wife, at a stop light (*gasp*).
Touch ID also seems to be a bit faster overall as well. But Face ID saves you the "trouble" of having to do an extra gesture to touch a button. It sounds silly, but it's pretty slick.
Point being, Face ID is really freakin' cool and generally speaking works great. However, it loses a bit of the pragmatism that comes with the mature, speedy, and practical Touch ID.
And 6 pages into a MR post, there's no way my entire comment will be read...
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It's pretty hilarious how people here are comparing the "security" of the unlocking process, based on misinformation and implausible scenarios. The truth is, Face ID, Touch ID and even Samsung's iris scanner are all secure enough. The supposed differences are irrelevant. Nobody is going to sculpt a 3D sculpture of your face, just as nobody is going to steal your fingerprints from a glass, just as nobody is going to take IR photographs of your eyes. It is just a completely irrelevant scenario and shouldn't be considered at all.
Let's not forget, that One plus 5T costs less than half as much as the iPhone 10. A pretty important fact left out of the comparison
It’s ridiculous that these are even compared.
Face unlock is just that ‘face unlock’. An image comparison to unlock your phone.
While ‘security’ might not matter to most people. It is the Security of Face ID that allows for the additional features such as payment authorization of apps, online and In store. It also allows for being able to use Face ID for accessing your passwords and apps that are passcode protected.
Face unlock on android can ONLY unlock your phone. And there is a reason for that, because it is not secure enough.
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Would you trust a using ‘Face unlock’ to secure your banking apps? Knowing it can be bypassed by a picture?
Face unlock is just that ‘face unlock’. An image comparison to unlock your phone.
While ‘security’ might not matter to most people. It is the Security of Face ID that allows for the additional features such as payment authorization of apps, online and In store. It also allows for being able to use Face ID for accessing your passwords and apps that are passcode protected.
Face unlock on android can ONLY unlock your phone. And there is a reason for that, because it is not secure enough.
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Would you trust a using ‘Face unlock’ to secure your banking apps? Knowing it can be bypassed by a picture?
People already drink and drive, so beer cans should come with straws.
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It was a very close call, but yes, we are now. Thanks.
Fascinating that Kou is a reference to all things smartphone . Sounds like a PR agency and not an analyst .
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Faster than open your phone instantly ?
Doesn't work when sensor are covered... duh? is that really a complaint in this video lol
Great points, agree on all of it. In addition, not only does Touch ID on my iPad feel like a chore, but so does double clicking that damn button to go home or invoke multitasking. The swipe gestures on iPhone X are so intuitive that I mastered them in a few hours on day 1 (it feels like you’re manipulating a deck of virtual cards). By my second day I was making phantom swiping gestures on my iPad, wishing it didn’t have a home button at all.
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You missed the guys point. On the iPhone X, there are tons of new features not present on phones with Touch ID where the user is presented with an option to insert a password and if you’re looking at your phone the password simply appears. But with Touch ID, you’d be required to deliberately press the home button in all these instances, which is definitely less convenient than having it happen automatically.
[doublepost=1512809478][/doublepost]Instead of just giving us an objective analysis of the the iPhone X’s pluses and minuses, Dan From MacRumors loves to editorialize and give us his personal opinions, which I’m not really looking for from this site. I appreciate MacRumors typically objective, journalistic approach to reporting (as opposed to a site like Apple Insider which is much more opinionated and fanboy-ish.)
Dan From MacRumors also seems to like repeating himself because he does that a lot as well.
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Having had more than my fair share of suspicions of FaceID I accidentally managed to buy X anyway. Now after over a month of use it feels natural. It works well enough regardless of conditions. I tried it in a (stopped) car late at night wearing a hat and sunglasses and it still recognized me. It was dark enough so I had actual problems seeing anything myself (with the sunglasses, of course).
The biggest reason for me to like Face ID is sadly the 'new' 'improved' 'courageous' menu button found in recent iPhones. The one in 6 was a pleasure to use. The new haptic ones are a pain in the ass. Anything I can do to get as far away from those as possible is a welcome change. I'm not very happy with all of the new swipe motions, mostly I miss easier access to the control center, but I can live with that. I don't use it THAT often other than to access the camera.
I still don't think iphone X is worth more than half of it's price.
The biggest reason for me to like Face ID is sadly the 'new' 'improved' 'courageous' menu button found in recent iPhones. The one in 6 was a pleasure to use. The new haptic ones are a pain in the ass. Anything I can do to get as far away from those as possible is a welcome change. I'm not very happy with all of the new swipe motions, mostly I miss easier access to the control center, but I can live with that. I don't use it THAT often other than to access the camera.
I still don't think iphone X is worth more than half of it's price.
I think the security of your phone is a valid concern only to those who use one for work and thus might have access to sensitive information thru it. For someone to go thru the trouble of getting a pic of your face from the correct direction or your fingerprints they would have to specifically target you which means they are not your average thief but doing corporate or political espionage.
People worried their significant other will go thru their phone should either clean up their act or stop dating people with severe insecurities and control tendencies.
For everyone else simple face, fingerprint, pattern or pin lock lock is sufficient. Your phone might still get stolen but it’s not that easy to access. While Apple’s solution is surely more secure, the most common use case is convenience rather than security and that’s where speed makes a bigger difference. For that other phones than the iPhone X provide a better experience and more options. Even for fingerprint my Oneplus 3 is a helluva lot faster than my iPad Pro or MacBook Pro.
NEWS ALERT.
Millions of people will do this every single day.
You are relaxing in bed, not quite asleep, and reach to check your phone, perhaps look on facebook as people do.
Of you wake up, sleepy and reach for your phone.
Stretch out your arm, pick your phone up, , bring it down to the side of your pillow and check things.
People do this EVERY day, or night. With Touch ID "It Just Worked" Face ID is worse in this scenario, and that's a simple fact.
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I mentioned this as it's a real world scenario millions will do every single day.
Every human sleeps, and a fair amount will have a phone beside the bed and will reach either sometimes, or very often to check their phone whilst they are still in bed.
You should never be scared to admit something is worse than an alternative.
Both systems have their benefits, but let's not pretend the new one does not have problems.
In some scenarios Touch ID is simply better
Guy in the video failed to show this correctly as he already had the phones out in his hand, holding it in front of your face BEFORE unlocking using either method.
Real life scenario is, your phone is either in your pocket on on a desk most of the time.
For the test to have been accurate of real life, he should have had both phones in his pocket, taken them out, and started to use them.
I would guess in both these scenarios Touch ID would have been faster, because are you are taking your phone out of your pocket, or lifting it off the desk/table, you are at the same time touching TouchID, so be the time you are actually looking at it, it's already unlocked.
Real life scenario is, your phone is either in your pocket on on a desk most of the time.
For the test to have been accurate of real life, he should have had both phones in his pocket, taken them out, and started to use them.
I would guess in both these scenarios Touch ID would have been faster, because are you are taking your phone out of your pocket, or lifting it off the desk/table, you are at the same time touching TouchID, so be the time you are actually looking at it, it's already unlocked.
Cue in all the tech blogs that have almost zero understanding of security liking the faster solutions of OnePlus.
Seriously. I thought these geeks would know better, but no, anything on Android, regardless how insecure they are, will get a free pass. It's amazing. Heck, how many Android devices won't even get the KRACK patch? Nobody, and I mean nobody says anything. Apple releasing a security fix? OMG iOS is not secure Apple is DOOMED!
Seriously. I thought these geeks would know better, but no, anything on Android, regardless how insecure they are, will get a free pass. It's amazing. Heck, how many Android devices won't even get the KRACK patch? Nobody, and I mean nobody says anything. Apple releasing a security fix? OMG iOS is not secure Apple is DOOMED!
All I needed was to read this...
"When the iPhone X is held in landscape mode, like when you're in bed"
...and I realized I'm not the target audience that cares which is better.
"When the iPhone X is held in landscape mode, like when you're in bed"
...and I realized I'm not the target audience that cares which is better.