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Face ID blows Touch ID out of the water.
Pros:
1. Gone are the days when slightly moist or wet hands wouldn’t allow you to unlock your phone. I live in Miami but I imagine that people who live in colder places will benefit from not having to remove their gloves.
2. Another example for its convenience over Touch ID is when I have a song playing on Spotify on the lock screen - all I have to do to go into the app is tap on the Spotify window, because the iPhone has already recognized my face. With Touch ID I would’ve had to authenticate with my finger print which now feels like a chore on my iPad and MacBook.
3. Banking apps have also benefited greatly from not having to put your finger on the home button. Just launch the app and it fluidly logs you in.
4. Face ID has changed how I use the phone. Now, in many cases, I don’t even swipe up for the home screen to unlock it. I swipe right to the widget screen where I have the information and apps that I need 90% of the time displayed and unlocked. From this screen I can call one of my favorite contacts, start a drive with waze, launch one of the top 8 apps I use which usually contains what I’m looking for, type what I need into the search bar (including apps), etc. No need to actively authenticate, it’s as if your phone was never locked.

Cons/spoiled brat’s complaints/things that should to be improved:
1. I would love for the Face ID to be a bit faster. This is usually not that noticeable during unlocks because by the time you swipe, it authenticates. But it does take what feels like a couple seconds too long when used with banking apps and Apple Pay. Also noticeable when you look at your home screen and wait for a message/notification to change into a preview (which is another Touch ID feature that I love). A snappier unlock, which I have no doubt will happen, will make Face ID even less noticeable, which for me is the main goal.
2. Wider field of view so that you can unlock the phone even when it’s laying flat on a table. Right now it’s a hit or miss which can be more annoying than if it were to flat out not be an option. I don’t run into this issue often, partially because I’ve already gotten used to picking up the phone to my face. But there are situation when it would be nice.
3. Sometimes when I wake up and still in bed it’s having a hard time recognizing me. Not sure what Apple can do about that because admittedly, I do look like a potato when I’ve just woken up. But maybe if Apple added a second sensor or iris scanner in future generations, Touch ID would be able to compile all this info into a successful profile and unlock.
4. Touch ID doesn’t work when you hold your phone sideways in portrait, for example when you watch a movie and the screen has locked. Why? How is this going to work when implemented into an iPad?

Over verdict:
Face ID is the future. It’s a lot more polished and reliable than Touch ID was when it just hit the market with the iPhone 5s, and has a much higher ceiling. When you compare it to Touch ID or the other solutions out there, Touch ID is the definition of “it just works”

Love this comment. I agree with pretty much everything here.
 
I got to say that faceid so far works about maybe 90% of the time vs touch id which works 99% of the time.

Being able to unlock my phone before I look at it is a noticeable difference in the iphone UX although not having to touch the home button to auto log into apps and certain websites is very convenient.

Going to reset my faceid scan to see if that helps.
 
Well, if Apple did not include Face ID, and placed Touch ID on the side or the back, they could have used that space for battery or something useful. Face ID is more useful for macs and iPad pros i.e. on bigger devices.

I disagree. I don't think touch ID would have been useful on the side or back of the iPhone at all, as that would have been a categorically horrible design. You have to remember, Apple favors accessibility to be achieved easier, and on larger iPhones, touch ID on the back is not easy for somebody that might have smaller hands.

Actually, they experimented with touch ID embedded under the display, but Face ID was always Apples primary goal according to Craig Federighi. Once Face ID became a reality, they abandoned touch ID under the display altogether.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/09/iphone_x_event_thoughts_and_observations

Face ID was always meant for the iPhone, but Undoubtedly it will migrate its way towards the iPad and likely the Mac lineup.
 
I want to know if government or police can unlock telephone using face id when prisoner refuses, how about dead person? did anyone tried that yet?
 
Yeah it rarely fails for me either. I’m still trying to understand why someone would need to unlock their phone in landscape mode.
OMG. Why should I change my usage model to accommodate a device. Maybe Apple will add another notch on the side for landscape mode.
 
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The point is, and despite what a select few Apple Crazies may say.....

If Apple had given Face ID as they have right now.

AND

Added in Touch ID, invisibly into the Apple Logo on the back, then pretty much 99.99999% of people would have been happy.
Best of both worlds, and you could chose to use, one or the other or both, depending on your needs at the time or the method you prefer.

It would have satisfied almost everyone.

Even if you DID have a twin or child? you did not wish unlocking with Face ID, you could have used Touch ID.
If you were wearing thick gloves then Face ID.

Such a shame, Apple were not brave enough to include both.
 
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So you are laying in bed, face half snuggled down into the pillow, you reach across to the table next to your bed, holding the phone and it unlocks perfectly?

NEWS ALERT.

Millions of people will do this every single day.

You are relaxing in bed, not quite asleep, and reach to check your phone, perhaps look on facebook as people do.
Of you wake up, sleepy and reach for your phone.

Stretch out your arm, pick your phone up, , bring it down to the side of your pillow and check things.

People do this EVERY day, or night. With Touch ID "It Just Worked" Face ID is worse in this scenario, and that's a simple fact.
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I mentioned this as it's a real world scenario millions will do every single day.
Every human sleeps, and a fair amount will have a phone beside the bed and will reach either sometimes, or very often to check their phone whilst they are still in bed.
You should never be scared to admit something is worse than an alternative.

Both systems have their benefits, but let's not pretend the new one does not have problems.
In some scenarios Touch ID is simply better

I am at a loss at to why people are having trouble using FaceID while in bed. FaceID works for me EVERY SINGLE TIME while I'm laying in bed. I would love to see what you people that are having issues are doing with your phones that is causing it to fail.

I want to say this again, loud enough for everyone to hear it ;-)

FaceID works PERFECTLY for me while laying in bed. It works when I'm going to bed at night and when I wake up in the morning. I have not run into an instance where my phone would not unlock immediately when I am laying in bed.
 
Its not just unlocking your phone. Every app that uses a password to unlock works with face ID. With tough ID you would need to change the way you held the phone to place a finger on there home button. Face ID just happens since you are already looking at your phone. This is where it's much faster.
I also happen to be holding my phone so I'm not seeing much of an advantage here. Not arguing against FaceID...I'm pretty much indifferent on it. I just find it odd that this one thing, something few people cared little about, is seen as one of the top selling points for the iPhone X.
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I want to know if government or police can unlock telephone using face id when prisoner refuses, how about dead person? did anyone tried that yet?
I suspect the law would be applied the same as it is with TouchID: The government can compel you to unlock the phone. If you do not wish to do so use a pass code. For the moment it appears to be the only method protected from being compelled to unlock the device.
 
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Always amazed when people say they don’t have anything secret and have no need for good security. What, do you just use your phone for Words With Friends? Do you use email or log on to websites via a password? These days if someone has access to your phone, coupled with all of the extensive security breaches that have already taken place, they basically have access to your life.

Just because you’ve never lost a phone or had one stolen doesn’t mean it won’t happen. You’ll appreciate having good security when you need it.

You missed his point, or maybe you got it and constructed this straw man argument anyway.

He didn't say "no security." He said, in essence, "good enough."

And he's absolutely right. For most people and most everyday uses, good enough is indeed good enough.
 
I got to say that faceid so far works about maybe 90% of the time vs touch id which works 99% of the time.

Interesting. Oposite for me - Face ID works almost every time, Touch ID 50% of the time. Could be the skin on my thumbs, no idea.

Try resetting Face ID, it really works almost flawlessly for me.
 
FaceID works for me EVERY SINGLE TIME while I'm laying in bed. I would love to see what you people that are having issues are doing with your phones that is causing it to fail.

I want to say this again, loud enough for everyone to hear it ;-)

He already told you what's creating issues. It's using Face ID on your side, with your face partially obscured and scrunched by the pillow. This has been a well documented issue.

Next time, rather than just typing with a bigger font, just read first.
 
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Face ID blows Touch ID out of the water.
Pros:
1. Gone are the days when slightly moist or wet hands wouldn’t allow you to unlock your phone. I live in Miami but I imagine that people who live in colder places will benefit from not having to remove their gloves.
2. Another example for its convenience over Touch ID is when I have a song playing on Spotify on the lock screen - all I have to do to go into the app is tap on the Spotify window, because the iPhone has already recognized my face. With Touch ID I would’ve had to authenticate with my finger print which now feels like a chore on my iPad and MacBook.
3. Banking apps have also benefited greatly from not having to put your finger on the home button. Just launch the app and it fluidly logs you in.
4. Face ID has changed how I use the phone. Now, in many cases, I don’t even swipe up for the home screen to unlock it. I swipe right to the widget screen where I have the information and apps that I need 90% of the time displayed and unlocked. From this screen I can call one of my favorite contacts, start a drive with waze, launch one of the top 8 apps I use which usually contains what I’m looking for, type what I need into the search bar (including apps), etc. No need to actively authenticate, it’s as if your phone was never locked.

Cons/spoiled brat’s complaints/things that should to be improved:
1. I would love for the Face ID to be a bit faster. This is usually not that noticeable during unlocks because by the time you swipe, it authenticates. But it does take what feels like a couple seconds too long when used with banking apps and Apple Pay. Also noticeable when you look at your home screen and wait for a message/notification to change into a preview (which is another Touch ID feature that I love). A snappier unlock, which I have no doubt will happen, will make Face ID even less noticeable, which for me is the main goal.
2. Wider field of view so that you can unlock the phone even when it’s laying flat on a table. Right now it’s a hit or miss which can be more annoying than if it were to flat out not be an option. I don’t run into this issue often, partially because I’ve already gotten used to picking up the phone to my face. But there are situation when it would be nice.
3. Sometimes when I wake up and still in bed it’s having a hard time recognizing me. Not sure what Apple can do about that because admittedly, I do look like a potato when I’ve just woken up. But maybe if Apple added a second sensor or iris scanner in future generations, Touch ID would be able to compile all this info into a successful profile and unlock.
4. Touch ID doesn’t work when you hold your phone sideways in portrait, for example when you watch a movie and the screen has locked. Why? How is this going to work when implemented into an iPad?

Over verdict:
Face ID is the future. It’s a lot more polished and reliable than Touch ID was when it just hit the market with the iPhone 5s, and has a much higher ceiling. When you compare it to Touch ID or the other solutions out there, Touch ID is the definition of “it just works”
You surprised me with your "over verdict", but I agree with you, Touch ID is superior. ;)
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With TouchID my iPhone is unlocked by the time I raise to my eye level. With FaceID the unlocking process doesn't even start until I have it raised to see my face. Consider having an iPhone on your dock while sleeping,or some other "off to the side" use case; with TouchID you could lean over extend a hand and unlock the device with TouchID, now under that scenario with FaceID and entering a passcode would seem the best ( or a go go gadget neck) option.

I want FaceID to succeed, but I think at this point it's best that both FaceID and TouchID are added together as they compliment each other.

Lets hope they figure out how to put TouchID under the glass and we have both options moving forward. I think an iPhone with both TouchID and FaceID would be the best solution for all use cases.

Don't want to touch the screen, use FaceID, Can't see your face..use TouchID.
According to an interview with an Apple employee and shared on MR, once Apple saw that FaceID was achievable they stopped work on under glass TouchID. For Apple, if you believe the interviewee, TouchID is finished on phones, as in no more development.
 
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I wouldn't use the OnePlus 5T because like the video said, you cannot have it secure enough to protect passwords or authenticate payments. First gen FaceID will be the worst of the generations to be fair. It's actually pretty solid, but not ideal. I wanted TouchID on the back, but it is what it is. At least Apple has a solid biometric system and I can use it for years to come.
 
He already told you what's creating issues. It's using Face ID on your side, with your face partially obscured and scrunched by the pillow. This has been a well documented issue.

Next time, rather than just typing with a bigger font, just read first.

Indeed, it's well known and spoken about.
Half asleep, you reach for the phone (as people do) with face obscured by pillow such as in this photo:
The phone will not have a full clear shot of your face, so you will need to wake up a bit more and make an effort to get into position, as opposed to touch ID just working.

Not saying I hate Touch ID at all. I'm just aware in real life scenarios in real homes, under real usage, these problems exist now.

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According to an interview with an Apple employee and shared on MR, once Apple saw that FaceID was achievable they stopped work on under glass TouchID. For Apple, if you believe the interviewee, TouchID is finished on phones, as in no more development.

And you believe this?
It's marketing. (another term for lying)
What do you expect them to say to the world? "We tried to get it working in time but failed"

Or course not.

Like ANY business, they lie. They promote what they ARE trying to sell you NOW and either ignore, or rubbish what they can't offer you.

Recall how Apple rubbished large screen phones? That was because they did not have one to sell you that year.
A year or two later, they THEN had large screen phones to sell you and forget that they used to rubbish them.

Please.... You are I'm sure an intelligent Adult. I'm sure you can understand this is what they do, and we should not expect anything else from a large company with a small line of products.
 
I really like FaceID, I agree with others that using Touch ID seems like a chore in comparison.

Biggest issue I have is that I need to remind myself not to use iPhone X gestures when using my iPad Pro :)
 
Apple Pay is much easier on the iPhone X in a McDonalds drive through. They hold their swiper outside of the window for you, but it's hard to hold the phone just right whilst also putting your thumb in the correct position.

With the X, the idea of pre-authing Apple Pay, then moving the device into position, just makes a lot more sense.
 
I wonder if there is some "bio-magnetic" something that your body gives of that could be linked to you.
So that simply holding the pone unlocked it.
I know we as humans give off such things, I'm sure some are working on it.
 
Face ID is a game changer. I often complain about Apple's weird design choices, baffling UI updates that can be 1 step forward 2 steps back, and brazenly backwards ideas like the touchbar, doing away with magsafe, and making products thinner at the expense of functionality, but I sincerely believe the future is Face ID and Apple will lead the pack in forcing the industry to up their facial recognition game and improve user security.
 
Wait how do you see post # x? Is there such a feature or a post number available or you are just yanking his chain to make him count.
Each message has a number associated with it. It can be found in the top, right-hand corner of each message.
 
You missed his point, or maybe you got it and constructed this straw man argument anyway.

He didn't say "no security." He said, in essence, "good enough."

And he's absolutely right. For most people and most everyday uses, good enough is indeed good enough.

I’m sorry if I didn’t read between the lines of his post sufficiently. I was merely reading the words that he had written.

He said that he didn’t have anything secret and thus had no need for “super security”. He then qualified his statement saying that he’d never lost or had a phone stolen. I don’t know what that implies. Does it mean that as long as he’s in possession of his phone he’s satisfied with “good enough”?

What’s your take?
 
I’m sorry if I didn’t read between the lines of his post sufficiently. I was merely reading the words that he had written.

He said that he didn’t have anything secret and thus had no need for “super security”. He then qualified his statement saying that he’d never lost or had a phone stolen. I don’t know what that implies. Does it mean that as long as he’s in possession of his phone he’s satisfied with “good enough”?

What’s your take?
My take is you're being argumentative. It was clear the OP felt "good enough" is sufficient.
 
A couple of additional comments: those who are having problems with face-id have you tried resetting the face-id wiih making sure you move your face around while it is recording.
For those of you that the critical issue is having your phone unlock when you are still in bed with your face in the pillow - get a life. If you phone is more important than actually waking up - be serious.
 
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