Relax.
As it has been mentioned before, front facing cameras have been legion for almost a decade now. If you think FaceID is going to leave your personal info vulnerable, you're a bit behind the curve.
You're picking the wrong hill to die on.
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Face ID not Optimised for Banking App
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As it has been mentioned before, front facing cameras have been legion for almost a decade now. If you think FaceID is going to leave your personal info vulnerable, you're a bit behind the curve.
You're picking the wrong hill to die on.
As a Dutchmen it aches me to say that Dutch banks are nowadays simply behind the curve. I was in Amsterdam last few days and they looked at me like I came from a different planet when paying with the Apple Watch. The hotel wouldn’t accept visa debit to guarantee the room, “as the banking system on supports maestro” for debit cards. Despite me having platinum elite status with that hotel group and travel with that card all around the world.
I wouldn’t read to much into it, but I hope ABN AMRO get their act together soon.
You could disable FaceID buy just disabling that type of authentication for the specific model of iPhone. It would be quite easy to do so.
I would assume they did this because they don't have a iPhone X to test it but its kind of stupid to do because FaceID is just a drop in replacement for Touch ID as far as software is concerned.
Wait, I thought if an app supports Touch ID, then it auto-supports Face ID as well
What's going on here??
What's going on here??
This bank will have to have disabled all the bio authentication as they are not able to force only touchID instead of FaceID as the OS just reports back to the app whether or not the authentication challenge was passed. This is bad design by one firm, and it will also affect all users of TouchID which will lead to bad reputation. I don’t see this being the norm, by any means.
Yet the banks are saying otherwise, at least 2 UK banks have released updates to support FaceID, and at least 1 is unsure of when FaceID will be supported (even though they already support TouchID).
It isn’t as simple as “they’re the same, if one works the other will”, not when you’re dealing with banks.
Not to mention someone else has already commented that it’s possible for one to work and not the other.
they are the same, that's how biometric authentication is implemented in iOS 11
they can not disable one or another, it's either disable all or nothing
I'm sure that every app that can support TouchID is indeed capable of supporting FaceID, just as Apple says.
However, Apple can't say whether each app developer will choose to support it. Banks in particular may want to wait and see.
Read my earlier post in the thread. You can support touchID and not FaceID. If you detect FaceID is the biometric type available you just don't request biometric authentication. Simple as that.
Are you suggesting that just because these are banking apps they have special guidelines in iOS for their methodology for authentication? This is handled at the OS level, and is across the board. Unless if Apple has given them some special way to do this differentiation between methods, there should not be any way for the app itself to know or need to know how the authy was performed.
if an app supports Touch ID, they will have no choice but to support Face ID as well, there's no either or
it will not be up to devs (unless they disable bio authentication completely)
Forgive my ignorance because I know nothing about app coding, but isn't it possible for the app to recognize the device as an iPhone X and have a line of code to the effect of, 'if iPhone X then invalidate biometrics'?
No, I’m suggesting banks are extremely conservative and likely to be quite wary of allowing new technology from the word go...
According to all the dev docs out there, there isn’t a way to disable one and not the other so the bank will have to put touchID on hold for all of its other users while they ‘warm up’ to the security of FaceID.
This is silly design, especially with the white paper that prove the false authentication rate of FaceID is 1:1,000,000 while it is only 1:5,000 for touchID and touchID can be programmed to multiple fingers, and even different people as it is only a finger of someone, no way to determine if they are all the same user or not. FaceID can only be used for and by one entity, adding to its effectiveness.