Stop spreading misinformation. It is simple to not support one or the other, you just don't request biometric authentication if you see FaceId is supported, or if you only want to support FaceId you don't request authentication if TouchId is supported. Once you call the API then yes either will authenticate. You just don't call the API if you see FaceID is the biometric type supported.
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Face ID not Optimised for Banking App
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Stop spreading misinformation. It is simple to not support one or the other, you just don't request biometric authentication if you see FaceId is supported, or if you only want to support FaceId you don't request authentication if TouchId is supported. Once you call the API then yes either will authenticate. You just don't call the API if you see FaceID is the biometric type supported.
I thought that Apple said that any app that can support TouchID can support FaceID, not that it has to.
But in any case, apparently that is what developers are saying.
That's what I asked about above. So like I said, Apple promised that any app that uses TouchID can use FaceID. There's no guarantee that it will?
But you would have to actually update the app to not support Face ID. So the title of this thread is misleading. Face ID works fine with banking apps unless the developer updates the app to not work with Face ID.
It's easier to get your thumb from you than an incredibly long password.
Correct, the story states the banking app just had an update in the last few days. Face ID will work by default if Touch ID is supported, unless the developers choose not to support it.
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No need to detect the model. The authentication API lets you see what biometric is supported.
I am not spreading misinformation, there are a few others in here who come to understand it as I have based on what the devs have been saying and what we have heard in the keynote (they did talk about it there too).
We won’t know until it happens. There’s a lot of no-it-all’s on this forum, but I will wait until the actual hands-on and see if there is any snafus.
Yes you are. I stated on page 1 how it can be done. That was repeated on page 2. Then repeated on page 3.
You’re the only one to actually post anything about the API call yet no one wants to hear it. Lol. MR members are strange at times.
It says "not optimised". The problem is with touch id you can pop up and say "put finger to auth or press cancel", with face id it auths you immediately if you want or not. The app properly uses touch id to confirm as in "are you sure?" while this would not work out of the box with face id as it just goes immediately "yes". They want to test first if the experience is still ok and make changes if not.
They can not disable the security features but can disable the app. Banks will take no chances if they are not convinced.
Found this article on the web. It appears that you will have to double click the side button to authorize or authenticate when using face id. Just looking at your phone will not make those unauthorized purchases or open Touch ID apps unless you are looking at the phone and double click the side button. Again just going by the what was in the article.
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Yes but I don’t remember any bank apps accessing it? Or the front camera in iOS ever being used for security access to an app... kind of a pointless comment.
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Yes and they are not 100% convinced by Face ID yet, I won’t have it so don’t need to worry but in a year or two I may so it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Just as accessing the home screen still requires a swipe up, I'd say that it's common sense that any kind of authorization that uses FaceID will still require some deliberate action on your part. They're not going to have purchases and such authorized just because your phone is pointed at your face.
From your post it seemed as if you were concerned about privacy, and apps ‘seeing’ your facial expressions.
Right.
Any app can use the biometric authentication API if they like. And if they’ve been using it for Touch ID then the same code will work for face id, if they desired to use face Id.
Note shame on apple not to autocorrect face id like it does with Touch ID
This sounds like your bank completely disabled Touch ID support. Apple says where Touch ID worked, Face ID will work without any changes. I would think its something built into the OS that controls this feature. If you're on a phone the has Touch ID, the app will display a fingerprint logo on screen to log in. IF you're on a phone that has Face ID, the app will display a face logo to log in. You should switch to a major bank if you prefer these login methods. I would be pissed if this was my bank. Taking away such a convenient feature because they're scared.
I actually realized this about a couple weeks ago trying to understand if Face ID is safe and practical enough.
I use my Chase app every single day the way I use my LG phones with IR blaster to turn on/off and volume +/- my TV since my PS4 can't turn it off or handle volume. My TV remote can get hidden somewhere.
Back to typing it all out but since I carry around another phone anyway, I will check my account only through that. But yeah, it's going to be a nuisance similar to trying to be in costume or snowboarding/skier gear or trying to unlock your phone under the table.
Back to passcode.. 6-digit passcode is 1 in 1M exactly what Apple claims for Face ID. Can't wait when friends troll friends trying to unlock their phones and uploading it on YouTube. Can't wait what Samsung did when supplying their main rival displays. "LISTEN ALL Y'ALL IT'S A SABOTAGE!"
The iPhone X, freshman class of a new revamp. Wait until 2019-2020 when it becomes an upperclassmen. Right now, X is Ben Seaver hitting puberty in Growing Pains. Not Boner. Peter Brady in The Brady Bunch Movie (1995).
I use my Chase app every single day the way I use my LG phones with IR blaster to turn on/off and volume +/- my TV since my PS4 can't turn it off or handle volume. My TV remote can get hidden somewhere.
Back to typing it all out but since I carry around another phone anyway, I will check my account only through that. But yeah, it's going to be a nuisance similar to trying to be in costume or snowboarding/skier gear or trying to unlock your phone under the table.
Back to passcode.. 6-digit passcode is 1 in 1M exactly what Apple claims for Face ID. Can't wait when friends troll friends trying to unlock their phones and uploading it on YouTube. Can't wait what Samsung did when supplying their main rival displays. "LISTEN ALL Y'ALL IT'S A SABOTAGE!"
The iPhone X, freshman class of a new revamp. Wait until 2019-2020 when it becomes an upperclassmen. Right now, X is Ben Seaver hitting puberty in Growing Pains. Not Boner. Peter Brady in The Brady Bunch Movie (1995).
This is the one thing I'm not looking forward too. I really enjoy using Touch-ID for accounts. Fortunately iOS 11 now lets you access passwords from apps other than Safari with Touch ID so hopefully that functionality will also work with Face ID as a bypass. I have zero idea what my passwords are anymore after letting Safari make up a password for me and save it so I will be in trouble.