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Basically Face ID is exactly the same as the old iOS's slide to unlock system without a password, but instead of swiping right, you swipe up, and the unlocking just happens in the background at the exact same time.
 
The Samsung Iris Scanner is a joke to use, you have to line up your eyes to the circles on the screen and also the light that's emitted is annoying.

They both use invisible near-infrared but nice try.
 
When I grab my phone I automatically place one finger on the touch ID sensor, usually thumb, so when I see the display it's already unlocked. This will always be faster than unlocking it as soon as I see my screen.
 
Huh? Quite the opposite. With my 8 Plus I can pick up my phone, look at the screen, and set it back down without unlocking it.

It appears you can't do this with the X and FaceID. You pick it up and look at it and it unlocks whether you actually want it to or not.

iPhone 8 Plus unlocks the screen by using Touch ID; meaning you have to touch the button to unlock. So you can stare at the screen all day and it’s locked until you put your registered finger on the Touch ID.

iPhone X unlocks by scanning your face. Meaning if you stare at the thing, is programmed to unlock the phone. Unless you don’t rise it or wake it by buttons. If it is wake and you are starting at it, it unlocks...Period. And that’s how it should be, otherwise it defeats the purpose of using Touch ID.

That being said, I think there is a feature of pressing side button and volume up (or down, not sure which) to disable Face ID and instead ask for a password. Apparently designed in order for authorities not to force you unlock the phone with your face.
 
These tests were done under ideal lighting conditions. Touch id works the same regardless of the lighting conditions. The technology of face id is almost idenical to microsofts kinect/hello face id technology. I know windows hello has some problems under bright lightning conditions. For example a sunny day. Now if the technology is similar which it is.
This could be a problem.

I forcee the same type of problems. This might be the biggest issue with face id. You heard it here first. Stay tuned.........
 
For me, speed is not a big deal for me. I hate losing the TouchID on the iPhone X but I welcome the FaceID. The main reason why I like the X is that, it is smaller than a 6S+ with almost the same screen size. Too bad I have to wait 6 weeks to get it. :(
 
arrrgh! anything is faster than Touch ID WHEN IT DOESN’T WORK, WHICH IS ABOUT 30% OF THE TIME with my apparently wizened thumb and finger pads!

hopefully face wrinkles not similar problem! :confused:o_O
 
These tests were done under ideal lighting conditions. Touch id works the same regardless of the lighting conditions. The technology of face id is almost idenical to microsofts kinect/hello face id technology. I know windows hello has some problems under bright lightning conditions. For example a sunny day. Now if the technology is similar which it is.
This could be a problem.

I forcee the same type of problems. This might be the biggest issue with face id. You heard it here first. Stay tuned.........

touch id does not work under all conditions. in the winter, wearing gloves (even touch screen gloves), when your hands are wet, when the sensor is dirty.
 
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iPhone 8 Plus unlocks the screen by using Touch ID; meaning you have to touch the button to unlock. So you can stare at the screen all day and it’s locked until you put your registered finger on the Touch ID.

iPhone X unlocks by scanning your face. Meaning if you stare at the thing, is programmed to unlock the phone. Unless you don’t rise it or wake it by buttons. If it is wake and you are starting at it, it unlocks...Period. And that’s how it should be, otherwise it defeats the purpose of using Touch ID.

That being said, I think there is a feature of pressing side button and volume up (or down, not sure which) to disable Face ID and instead ask for a password. Apparently designed in order for authorities not to force you unlock the phone with your face.

I'm sorry, but you are still totally missing the point....
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I don’t get it. In your scenario, what will the thief do with your “unlocked” phone?

I dunno, access your data, which I assume you don't want strangers to see by virtue of the fact you've enabled a biometric authentication system...
 
I get what he's saying, when I want to open a notification and I'm forced to put my finger on the TouchID to open it, it's kind of annoying. I'm excited to not have to do that anymore.

This. I love the experience of having passcode and Touch ID disabled. You just raise to wake, swipe the notification, and boom. But obviously I don't do this given the security issue, but Face ID looks to get us very close to that experience without compromising security.
 
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Which is?

I get that FaceID is designed to unlock your phone when you look at it. That's the issue. You look at your phone and it unlocks, whether you want it to or not, it unlocks. With TouchID, you can look at your phone as much as you want, and it remains locked until you want it unlocked, by intentionally using your finger to unlock it.

Take your phone out of your pocket to check the time, it unlocks. Place it on your desk and look at it, it unlocks.
 
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It's all about choice. Many of us would like the option to keep the touch ID, but I'm not sure how Apple could do that without screwing up the design. But it's also a function of me being old and not liking change - still miss the audio jack.
The only way would be integrated TouchID in the screen. They have the patent and it has been developed. Manufacturing in the volumes required may be an issue at the moment.
 
touch id does not work under all conditions. in the winter, wearing gloves (even touch screen gloves), when your hands are wet, when the sensor is dirty.


Well of coarse. I meant all lighting conditions. It is light and day every day. Its light in a bright room etc.

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I get that FaceID is designed to unlock your phone when you look at it. That's the issue. You look at your phone and it unlocks, whether you want it to or not, it unlocks. With TouchID, you can look at your phone as much as you want, and it remains locked until you want it unlocked, by intentionally using your finger to unlock it.

Take your phone out of your pocket to check the time, it unlocks. Place it on your desk and look at it, it unlocks.

What point did i miss? How does that pertain to how well it works? What you are saying is totally unrelated to the article or what i was talking about. I agree but that is a different issue.
 
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Well of coarse. I meant all lighting conditions. It is light and day every day. Its light in a bright room etc.

I get what you mean. But so far the only first impression video I've seen to have difficulty in the sun has been Nilay's. I guess we just wait for Fri to see for ourselves. Touch ID has its pros and cons, and until the iPhone X is released and we have it in our own hands, we won't know what the pros and cons are. Everything is just speculation until then.

people usually dry their hands, and its not winter every day. The sensor on face id can be dirty as well.

Definitely not the case for ppl who suffer from sweaty hands. and even after drying my finger tips and cleaning the sensor, it doesnt always work for me.
 
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its going to be way faster during the winter season

That’s actually a really good point. I had a hell of a time unlocking my iPhone 6S at Six Flags this past weekend wearing my touch screen gloves.

I’m interested to see how people like FaceID.
 
I get what you mean. But so far the only first impression video I've seen to have difficulty in the sun has been Nilay's. I guess we just wait for Fri to see for ourselves. Touch ID has its pros and cons, and until the iPhone X is released and we have it in our own hands, we won't know what the pros and cons are. Everything is just speculation until then.

Agreed. But this could be potentially be a huge problem for apple. I hope it isn’t as i am waiting to see how well it works before i buy one.
 
I get that FaceID is designed to unlock your phone when you look at it. That's the issue. You look at your phone and it unlocks, whether you want it to or not, it unlocks. With TouchID, you can look at your phone as much as you want, and it remains locked until you want it unlocked, by intentionally using your finger to unlock it.

Take your phone out of your pocket to check the time, it unlocks. Place it on your desk and look at it, it unlocks.

I can definitely see a security issue here with the potential of someone gaining access to your unlocked iPhone. Also police could place your phone right in front of your face to gain access. That's why having a second option would've put some people at ease. I know Apple often expects you to adapt and at times they're right when they say it's better. This time, retaining TouchID in addition to introducing FaceID may have been the better route for Apple to take.
 
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I get that FaceID is designed to unlock your phone when you look at it. That's the issue. You look at your phone and it unlocks, whether you want it to or not, it unlocks. With TouchID, you can look at your phone as much as you want, and it remains locked until you want it unlocked, by intentionally using your finger to unlock it.

Take your phone out of your pocket to check the time, it unlocks. Place it on your desk and look at it, it unlocks.

Yeah... so what’s the issue here? It unlocks the phone because it makes the logical assumption that you are going to use it, otherwise why would you stare at it? Touch ID is a different technology, you can’t unlock it until you scan your finger. More importantly, what is your issue with a phone on your hand or at your desk being unlocked? What possible dramatic scenarios are going in to your head if I may ask?
 
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Agreed. But this could be potentially be a huge problem for apple. I hope it isn’t as i am waiting to see how well it works before i buy one.

Yup it definitely has the potential to be. We just have to trust Apple that it works as good as they claim, same as how we had to trust them when touch id first came out (and that turned out pretty good if u ask me)
 
Yeah... so what’s the issue here? It unlocks the phone because it makes the logical assumption that you are going to use it, otherwise why would you stare at it? Touch ID is a different technology, you can’t unlock it until you scan your finger. More importantly, what is your issue with a phone on your hand or at your desk being unlocked? What possible dramatic scenarios are going in to your head if I may ask?

Oh dear......
 
This feels a lot like the critics lambasting the first iPhone for not having a physical keyboard. They were right in that a virtual keyboard was slower and less accurate, and yet hilariously wrong on hindsight in that the benefits of a software keyboard which didn’t take up half your device far outweighed the drawbacks.

People who fixate on unlocking speed in a vacuum feel to me like they are missing the bigger picture. It’s about completely rethinking the iPhone experience, and Apple has shown they are not averse to throwing out the sacred cows in this regard.

I predict that given time, the removal of Touch ID will show just how much the home button has been holding back the iPhone user experience.
 
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