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It isn't that much slower considering you can swipe up as soon as your screen turns on, and the FaceID will authenticate during that time (rather than spending time waiting for it to unlock).
 
Raise phone to wake.

It’s already unlocked because I will be looking at it.

Swipe up to go to home screen.

Not really any slower than pushing down on a home button (since you will be raising the phone to your face to use it anyways).

That said, am I the only one whose realizes that you'll be swiping right on whatever notification has come up as Face ID is recognising you. Once it does, you'll be put right into whatever app had the notification.

This is 2-3 times faster than Touch ID. With which you have to swipe the notification, THEN place finger on button; or vice versa, to be placed into the app. Face Id eliminates an entire step or more if you just go to home screen THEN into the app that had the notification.

Damn, now my 8+ sounds old.



I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how or why it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone. You shouldn’t have to consciously align your eyes into two circles for it to work.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.

What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It seems pretty seamless when it works, and we're still only in V1, compared to Touch ID which has had 4 years of improvement.

Further illustrates the difference in design philosophy between Apple and the rest of the competition. This is precisely what I am paying for when I buy an Apple product - the extra thought that goes into designing it.
Exactly. They'll catch up once they use it.
 
Whatever the truth ultimately turns out to be for most users, Apple could have avoided all of this by including both technologies in the X. Dropping a proven winner before anyone got a chance to test the new tech invited this micro-scrutiny and comparison.
 
1.6 seconds seems ok... Why the rush ....?

slowly, just means more accurate. We all just want everything doesn't we (minus the rumor mill)

There can always be updates to improve speed.
 
Face ID is not just faster when opening a notification but also when it comes to launching apps that work with biometrics.

Currently if I launch my banking app (or any app that uses Touch ID), gotta tap the login button, then put my finger on the home button and it logs me in. With Face ID, just tap the login button and you’re in. One gesture instead of two.

So yes, while a half second to unlock the phone, it’ll be way faster with almost every other application using biometrics. Since you are always authenticated immediately, any action requiring authentication will not require a second gesture.
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They both use invisible near-infrared but nice try.

No, just no. One is a seamless experience and the other convoluted.
 
Is it still possible to bypass the 2-stage unlock and go directly to the home screen / active app?

I.e. is there a face ID equivent of the "rest finger to open" setting for Touch ID?
There is no 2 step process. Swipe up and unlock happen simultaneously according to a John Gruber.
 
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Remember kids, Face ID is not simply a replacement for touch ID. It’s going to be able to do a lot more. If it also is more convenient to unlock your phone, that’s just going to be a bonus. By the way, I also think it’s better at unlocking your phone than Touch ID in real application.

Apple was right again and all the naysayers will be wrong.
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Well, of course, it's slow. Apple needs to release something better next year and charge even more money for it.
Stop posting.
 
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I get that FaceID is designed to unlock your phone when you look at it. That's the issue. You look at your phone and it unlocks, whether you want it to or not, it unlocks. With TouchID, you can look at your phone as much as you want, and it remains locked until you want it unlocked, by intentionally using your finger to unlock it.

Take your phone out of your pocket to check the time, it unlocks. Place it on your desk and look at it, it unlocks.

Finally someone who has the same concern I do about FaceID lol. Kinda difficult for me as I've got a 6s which is feeling old to me now, I like the 8 but everyone's like no get the X the 8 is just like the 7 (even though it's not it's a way better upgrade to the 7 than the 7 was to the 6s) and that kinda puts me off it :/
 
Raise phone to wake.

It’s already unlocked because I will be looking at it.

Swipe up to go to home screen.

Not really any slower than pushing down on a home button (since you will be raising the phone to your face to use it anyways).

That said, am I the only one whose realizes that you'll be swiping right on whatever notification has come up as Face ID is recognising you. Once it does, you'll be put right into whatever app had the notification.

This is 2-3 times faster than Touch ID. With which you have to swipe the notification, THEN place finger on button; or vice versa, to be placed into the app. Face Id eliminates an entire step or more if you just go to home screen THEN into the app that had the notification.

Damn, now my 8+ sounds old.



I think people misinterpret FaceID. The idea isn't to spend time analyzing how or why it works or whether it's slower than TouchID or not. The idea is that it blurs the perception of needing authentication at all to unlock your phone. You shouldn’t have to consciously align your eyes into two circles for it to work.

I think what Apple was going for was using FaceID to take care of all the security stuff behind the scenes so you don't have too. It removes having to think about authenticating to access something because faceID has already detected that it is you.

What you're left with is a phone that is as easy to access as one without a passcode. No longer do you have to go through security checks because it is all done automatically. It seems pretty seamless when it works, and we're still only in V1, compared to Touch ID which has had 4 years of improvement.

Further illustrates the difference in design philosophy between Apple and the rest of the competition. This is precisely what I am paying for when I buy an Apple product - the extra thought that goes into designing it.
The excitement, for me, is seeing the beginning of a more intimate, fluid, almost symbiotic, relationship with this device (and with others in the future. I’m thrilled to see the technology being pushed forward in this direction.
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When I was younger, I derived a lot more joy from having the latest and greatest no matter what bugs, kinks, and incompatibilities stood in my way.

I’m only 70 so I still am thrilled by the latest and greatest. :)
 
Actually 'Raise to Wake' would avoid all this,,, but then you wuldn't have security at all.
 
I am worried about getting used to a couple of things. One of them is using hands-free in the car. Before I could just rest a finger on it and it would unlock and I could continue. With Face ID in order to use hands-free features ill have to point the phone at my face. Somewhat defeats the purpose of hands-free.
 
3 steps to unlock?
press side button, look at it, then swipe up.

vs

1 step to unlock: put thumb on home button and push.

This is not an improvement!

I hope I can sell mine on ebay if this is as stupid as it sounds.

You don’t have to push side button. Touch screen (which wakes it) and swipe up while it’s capturing your face. Done.
 
I can't but help but laugh at those who are now talking about Touch ID like it some archaic and forgotten technology. I mean it was only a few months ago that many of us even learned that Apple was moving in this direction.

Slower, faster...I for one can't wait to try it out for myself.
 
This is a good question! During my commute, I look at my phone quite often just to see what the time is, or who just tried to contact me. For security reasons it would be better to not have the phone unlock during those brief interactions - it'd be nice if that was possible without completely disabling FaceID.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that - once the wider population figures out how this works, there will be thieves taking advantage of that moment to grab and dash.

Yeah totally. Just like how when Touch ID came out people were cutting off people’s thumbs right?
 
If Apple sells more of the iPhone 8 than the iPhone X what will Apple do.........

They will "buy" up a bunch of iPhone X devices and then give them away as gifts or other giveaways.

Note that this is what a lot of book authors / publishers would do to get a book into the best seller list. People want the latest iPhone, not because it is better, but because everyone else has one.
 
Waiting for second gen Face ID to be so fast that people complain forcing Apple to change how the you unlock the device
(For those don’t remember, that happened with Touch ID)

Agreed. I've been slightly burned in the past for buying into new hardware before it is fully baked. Not going to happen again. I'm getting too old for that.

@oneMadRssn I don't think you realized what the person you quoted was saying.
 
I am worried about getting used to a couple of things. One of them is using hands-free in the car. Before I could just rest a finger on it and it would unlock and I could continue. With Face ID in order to use hands-free features ill have to point the phone at my face. Somewhat defeats the purpose of hands-free.

For these moments I utilize Siri.

"Hey siri, check new messages"
"Hey siri, open Spotify"
"Hey siri, turn on bluetooth"

Now there are times depending on the road noise that Siri will not pick up exactly what i'm trying to say. In those instances I do what you do and open my phone via Touch ID.
 
I suspect that the phone is powerful enough that they could increase the speed almost arbitrarily. We should see it faster in a point upgrade if people want it bad enough. Or the device will just get faster over time as it learns your face better.

I was wondering about this. The iPhones with Touch ID has the secure enclave which does the processing of the finger print, a separate processor. But the iPhone X does not have that second processor. Everything is done by the main processor I believe, if so then I do think the speed is variable and not fixed.
 
Welp. I'm cancelling my Nov 3 delivery then. Let one of these other people have it...

No I'm kidding! It's mine. You can't have it.
 
Touch ID: pick up your phone and put thumb on reader.
Face ID: pick up your phone and swipe up.

Simple.
Face ID: pick up your phone and have it 10-20 inches in front your face and be looking at the phone and swipe up
[doublepost=1509582805][/doublepost]Yeah...got my 8+. Happy to wait for Face ID v2.0
 
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