Face ID vs Touch ID

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  1. Bane-Thunder macrumors 6502

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    So lets have this discussion. I want to see true points where Touch ID would be better than Face ID and vice versa.

    We all know Face ID hasn't been used by any of us yet so we can only take Apple's word for it to work as advertised. (Looking at those screaming how terrible Face ID is when they haven't even used it.)

    So scenarios where I think Face ID would be better than Touch ID:

    1. Unlocking your device when your finger is wet or wearing gloves. (This occurs more in day to day life than wearing a mask or having face paint on)

    2. While driving, phone in car holder, I can quickly glance at the phone to unlock it rather than having to take my hand off the steering wheel to carefully put my finger on the home button for TouchID to authenticate.

    Scenarios where Touch ID would be better than Face ID:

    1. Unlocking the phone with your finger when the phone is lying on the desk. (Although rumour is Face ID will still work for this scenario?)

    And i can't think of anything else.... So let me know what I'm missing.

    Please note: I was using iPhones before Touch ID (iPhone 4S the best) and I'll be using iPhones far after Touch ID is gone.
     
  2. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

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    We have already had this discussion in multiple threads! Posters have brought up almost every scenario known to mankind!o_O
     
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  4. Bane-Thunder thread starter macrumors 6502

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    So give me a good valid reason why you say that?

    And don't pretend you haven't experienced Face ID period.
     
  5. phillytim macrumors 6502a

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    With TouchID, you can unlock your phone even while its in your pocket (or in the dark) & its usable. One hand, one step.

    With FaceID, you must pull out your phone, maneuver it to view your face, swipe up from the bottom. And then its usable. Two hands (most likely) and THREE steps.

    Makes a world of difference if you are in a high-pressure situation such as a bank robbery and just looking away for a split second could mean life-or-death.

    That possible scenario in itself justifies the greatness of TouchID.
     
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    since you mentioned that i will ask this: does the phone have to be directly in front of your face for faceid to work or will it work at an angle as well?
     
  7. Ntombi macrumors 68040

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    All reports say it will work at an angle.
     
  8. praterkeith macrumors 6502

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    Everyone will have their preference, it's no different than how people prefer different screen sizes on their iPhones. Apple offers 4", 4.7", 5.5", and 5.8" screens, so I think Face ID and Touch ID could coexist for awhile. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple shook things up a bit and offered an iPhone Pro with Face ID and a regular version of the iPhone with Touch ID.
     
  9. Ntombi macrumors 68040

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    People crack me up.
     
  10. Bane-Thunder thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Face ID will work in the dark it uses infra red. As I said we have to take Apple's word for it as it stands until we actually have the units ourselves.

    You haven't given any compelling reason why Touch ID is better.

    I've never wanted to unlock my phone in my pocket before looking at it to see if i have notifications on the lockscreen first. Because with iOS unlocking and going to home screen dismisses the lockscreen notifications.
     
  11. phillytim macrumors 6502a

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    Until something actually happens to you.
     
  12. Raist3001 macrumors 6502

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    That's why you have notification center. Or the Apple watch.

    I always unlock my phone in my pocket before taking it out. Its quick and easy. I'll certainly miss TID.
     
  13. phillytim macrumors 6502a

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    We can all justify our reasons however we wish. I'm speaking out of objectivity.
     
  14. maflynn Moderator

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    I like how TouchID, can be used to set up multiple fingers, i.e., I let me daughters have their fingers defined. Not so with FaceID, and so for me its not a complete solution
     
  15. bambooshots, Oct 13, 2017
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    You're making things up to try to justify your feelings.

    FaceID will not require the use of two hands and three steps. The phone is barely larger than a current iPhone 6/7/8.

    It's as simple as lift the phone, look at it, then swipe up. If it doesn't work, keep on looking at it.

    I hate how TouchID forces me to take my thumb off the button if there's an unsuccessful read. And if it fails a second or third time it gets really irritating.

    And in a high pressure situation like a bank robbery, I won't be looking at my phone.

    My attention will be focused on the front sight of my handgun superimposed COM over the slightly out of focus robber, my trigger finger gently taking up slack in the trigger until the gun fires.
     
  16. Nimoy macrumors member

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    Note that in the TouchID scenario you also have to pull the phone out of your pocket and maneuver it to your face (how else would you use the phone?). The only real difference is the swipe up.
     
  17. Bane-Thunder thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Now this is a reasonable explanation, although you could just simply give them your passcode?

    As I wouldn't trust kids on the app store on my phone. My daughter is 3 soon to be 4 and I don't let her use my phone at all. She has the iPad with no passcode on (only app store).
     
  18. Aibocyrus macrumors 6502a

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    I honestly don’t think we will ever come to a conclusion on this simply because it’s going to come down to your personal preference at the end of the day.
     
  19. maflynn Moderator

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    My kids are 12 and are very responsible, and I have no qualms with them, they've have never bought any apps from the app store.

    My example is just for how I use it, but I've seen people mention spouses, as another example where they have their spouses finger defined in TouchID, and again that usage will be disallowed with FaceID. Is it a huge issue? No of course not, they'd have to use the passcode, but all I'm saying is FaceID is an incomplete solution as it stands - at least for my usage.
     
  20. Bane-Thunder thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Fair enough, but theres the iPhone 8 for that. At least Apple has not abandoned your needs. They released the iPhone 8 specifically for those that do not want these changes.
     
  21. Ntombi macrumors 68040

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    I fully acknowledge that being caught in a bank robbery is possible.

    But it’s not something that is high on my list of worries.

    Also, if I’m in such an emergency, what am I going to want to do with my phone? Why am I unlocking it? Likely call for help, right? Okay, if that’s the plan, I only need to hit the side button five times while it’s in my hand or pocket or whatever. No need to look at it until the emergency screen comes up. Then I can hit the 911 call with one press.

    If you have a Touch ID phone in the same situation, you can unlock it with your finger without looking, and then what? Then you’ll have to “take your eye off the situation for a split second.”
     
  22. Cryates macrumors 65816

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    Here's a thought - There is not a single consumer who has used Face ID yet, so let's reserve what it's good for, and not good for, until that happens.
     
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    There will be plenty of talk about with FaceID and TouchID when the ipX reaches consumers hands.

    Talking about pros and cons now really doesn't accomplish anything.
     
  24. jtrue28 macrumors 6502

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    Can we not set up multiple faces for FaceID? If not, that blows chunks.
     
  25. maflynn Moderator

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    We're not talking about iPhone models, per say but rather technologies

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    I'm giving my opinion on that technology
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    Nope, its been confirmed by apple that its only a single face.
     

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