As a user, that's exactly what they'd like you to think.
However, Facebook is entirely about the Nw$ F££d.
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Facebook CEO Explains Separate Messenger Download, Points Towards 'Dedicated' Experience
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As a user, that's exactly what they'd like you to think.
However, Facebook is entirely about the Nw$ F££d.
What gets my goat is that I still receive notifications (with the full message) and have the red "1" indicating a message is pending, but it wants to force me to install the messenger app to read it.
So, the messaging feature is still working in the background, they've just shut off the ability to read it from within the app itself. STUPID. I was holding out hoping that they'd just revert back. But, I may just end up canceling the stupid account altogether. Facebook has lost it appeal for me anyway.
Agreed.
When I want to send or reply to a Facebook message... I don't want the entire Facebook experience. I want to get in, send the message, and get out quickly.
Yeah I've got two app icons on my homescreen... but it doesn't bother me. They both serve their purposes.
Now... imagine if Facebook Messenger came out first as simply a messaging service... but then they added "extra" things like status updates, photos, groups, events and other stuff.
People would be complaining that all that "extra" stuff is ruining the messaging experience.
Six of one... half dozen of the other.
never use Facebook, it's merely there to sign into crap that needs a Facebook account. It used to be used to communicate/talk with people. Now it's a place to fabricate, fantasise and create an image of a better life than reality.
That just makes it a very boring place of half truths and lies. The ads and the whole package is the next myspace. Everything has it's life span and Facebook has died for me and many of my friends of all ages.
That just makes it a very boring place of half truths and lies. The ads and the whole package is the next myspace. Everything has it's life span and Facebook has died for me and many of my friends of all ages.
Seems like various people have their own personal feelings about social networks or Facebook in general, which is fine and all, but fairly moot to others who have their own preferences, and it's all fairly unrelated to this particular discussion anyway.
This doesn't happen for me. If its a message its in the app, if its a Facebook notification its in the Facebook app.
Yea. Apple would never pull a trick like that. They would never remove the floppy drive and make customers buy a separate external one. Mac customers would scream and all switch to using Dells.
I think the stand Aalone messenger is brilliant.
That way, I was able to uninstall the horrible, time consuming and distracting Facebook app that I sometimes used to kill time for some reason and just have the messenger installed instead.
Now I can message better than ever before on Facebook without getting distracted and wasting time looking through the useless news feed.
I am very happy.
That way, I was able to uninstall the horrible, time consuming and distracting Facebook app that I sometimes used to kill time for some reason and just have the messenger installed instead.
Now I can message better than ever before on Facebook without getting distracted and wasting time looking through the useless news feed.
I am very happy.
I like messenger. I don't care about the rest of Facebook enough to need to check the whole thing or open the Facebook app when on my phone. Keeping in touch with people through messenger is important though, so it makes sense to have an app dedicated for it. Facebook chat has become the thing that everyone uses.
iMessages can only be used by Apple device owners, text messages cost money, emails are not for chat, not everyone has a smartphone to use WhatsApp or whatever other app, and Skype needs to be installed to be used even on a computer, as opposed to Facebook. But everyone uses Facebook. So that's the only one thing that every single person I know will use.
iMessages can only be used by Apple device owners, text messages cost money, emails are not for chat, not everyone has a smartphone to use WhatsApp or whatever other app, and Skype needs to be installed to be used even on a computer, as opposed to Facebook. But everyone uses Facebook. So that's the only one thing that every single person I know will use.
How is Skype and WhatsApp any different than Facebook Messenger?
It's their Hail Marry as they're getting more irrelevant and losing the 18-46 demographics.
I gave up on Facebook. I still have a profile out there, but removed all my photos and everything else. Took all their apps - whatsup, Instagram, Facebook, etc. off my phone and iPad. Rarely do I go into Facebook through the web. Their privacy policy was a mess, they want to own my photos, and they keep screwing up the user experience with stuff like this. I have moved on. For those that remain, I hope that they figure it out some day.
This has been said before but its worth repeating. With FaceBook and with Google, you are not the customer. You are the product. Therefore the structure of the services offered best serves the real customers and owners (stockholders) of these companies. They are sold to you as if they are in your best interest. Some will agree and many will not. So long as you keep using it, you remain their product.
Not defending this particular move, I happen to think both google and Facebook have some good services. If they would offer them where I am truly the customer with completely different terms of service, with no ads and where what I do and my data is solely my own etc. privacy, I would be willing to pay for these services anywhere from .99 to $5.00 per year. I think they would be better served offering the existing free and pay for services so people would have more choices as it relates to their privacy which would then in turn better define the user experience.
Not defending this particular move, I happen to think both google and Facebook have some good services. If they would offer them where I am truly the customer with completely different terms of service, with no ads and where what I do and my data is solely my own etc. privacy, I would be willing to pay for these services anywhere from .99 to $5.00 per year. I think they would be better served offering the existing free and pay for services so people would have more choices as it relates to their privacy which would then in turn better define the user experience.
Hear, hear, hear! I couldn't agree more. FB lost me years ago and do not like it one bit. It's taking out too much out of our social lives IMHO and tell me what is FB now so useful these days huh? NOTHING. It's all a con that's what it is.
That's my penny's worth.
Change the name and the issues are the same. They all do it. We just accept it from some companies and moan about it from others.
My better experience means uninstalling Facebook from my iPhone period, and using it far, far less than I used to. I occasionally go out and browse for a few minutes when I have my Mac in front of me. But other than that it's out of my life.
I know Mr. Zuckerberg doesn't need my participation in order to be successful, but this decision has taken this Facebook user down the path of eventually rendering Facebook irrelevant to me.
I did some quick searches and could not find any data to back this statement up. Does anyone know a site where i can see FB usage as a percentage of population by country?
Or better yet some raw data that I could parse through myself.
They are different in the ways that are mentioned in the post.
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There are certainly reasons why it can be a good idea for quite a few as mentioned in a number of replies. Definitely more than zero.
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No one needs to explain ore justify why any service is useful to them. Everyone has their own preferences and what's better or worse for them. Doesn't make it right or wine or good or bad just what works or doesn't for them which has no relation to or effect on anyone else.
i like how they define "removed"
for the longest time, maybe it was a month, i am not sure, you could still get messages in the Facebook app by simply restarting the app, or clicking on install now, but not actually installing the app. maybe you still got messages for a few days, sometimes it was a once a day ritual, but they never actually removed messages from the app, until recently.
for the longest time, maybe it was a month, i am not sure, you could still get messages in the Facebook app by simply restarting the app, or clicking on install now, but not actually installing the app. maybe you still got messages for a few days, sometimes it was a once a day ritual, but they never actually removed messages from the app, until recently.