Almost everyone here including myself an Apple fan but I bet Facebook thread somewhere they’re bashing Apple. I wouldn’t know. I never have Facebook account since I know Facebook stole people info and sell them to third party yet people still hanging on to Facebook account..unbelievable * SMH *
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple's Privacy Changes are Self-Serving and Anti-Competitive
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Oh, I'm pretty sure it's Facebook. Twitter may arguably have more bile-per-post than Facebook, but Facebook has about 2.7 billion monthly active users and Twitter "only" has about 350 million. So just in "gross number of people being uncivil" Facebook is an order of magnitude larger.
More to the point, though, while Twitter may be vastly more effective at allowing one person to be uncivil to many, Facebook's entire algorithm and business model is based around having a complicated algorithm to figure out exactly what will either ideologically isolate people and/or make them the angriest, then showing them more of exactly that. Because "engagement".
I like this one:
who the f*** cares? As long as the customer is profiting as much as Apple does, he's happy.
Dear Z.,
who the f*** cares? As long as the customer is profiting as much as Apple does, he's happy.
Some extremely problematic statements in there, including by not limited to iMessage and FaceTime both of which only function iPhone to iPhone, iPad n Mac , thus dominant or not they are still limited to one ecosystem.
Last I checked, Android, across several companies that build phones, tablets etc was the market leader, as such, Facebook is seemingly losing a chunk of one piece of a much larger pie.
Please do correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to me like those comments are hugely out of proportion, that’s my take on it anyway. Looks like Sean Parker’s influence still holds strong at Facebook
edit: Apple just took top spot, however Android combined still seems to have the lions share of the market
Last I checked, Android, across several companies that build phones, tablets etc was the market leader, as such, Facebook is seemingly losing a chunk of one piece of a much larger pie.
Please do correct me if I’m wrong but it seems to me like those comments are hugely out of proportion, that’s my take on it anyway. Looks like Sean Parker’s influence still holds strong at Facebook
edit: Apple just took top spot, however Android combined still seems to have the lions share of the market
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Thus because Zuckerberg is already making money of my data, it's anti-competitive to give me the option to protect my property? I'll call it BS.
Facebook today shared its earnings for the fourth quarter of 2020, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's opening remarks were focused on Apple's upcoming anti-tracking privacy changes that will impact the advertising industry and companies like Facebook that rely heavily on online advertising.
As highlighted by The Washington Post, Zuckerberg claimed that Apple is changing its privacy policy not to help people, but to further its own interests.
"Apple has every incentive to use their dominant platform position to interfere with how our apps and other apps work, which they regularly do," said Zuckerberg. "They say they are doing this to help people, but the moves clearly track their competitive interests."
Zuckerberg said that Facebook sees Apple as one of its biggest competitors, claiming that the privacy changes will help Apple services like iMessage and FaceTime that compete with Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.
"iMessage is a key linchpin of their ecosystem," said Zuckerberg. "It comes pre-installed on every iPhone and they preference it with private APIs and permissions, which is why iMessage is the most used messaging service in the U.S."
Zuckerberg also once again said that Apple's changes are going to impact small businesses, which is a claim that Facebook has been leaning on as it campaigns against Apple's planned changes. Facebook has previously published newspaper ads and shared blog posts explaining how Apple's iOS 14 ad-tracking changes will have a "harmful impact on many small businesses that are struggling to stay afloat."
Facebook has previously claimed that Apple's move is "about profit," and that it will leave apps and websites with no choice but to charge subscription fees or add in-app purchases to make ends meet, leading to increased App Store revenue.
Apple is not backing down despite Facebook's complaints and has plans to implement the new tracking rules in the near future. When made a requirement, apps that track usage through a random advertising identifier will need to ask users if they want to share their information for ad tracking purposes.
Advertisers use the random advertising identifier to serve up personalized ads and to track ad campaigns, but the ad industry expects that many people will opt not to share this information.
Apple says that users should be aware of when their data is being collected and shared across other apps and websites, and should have the choice to opt in or opt out. "We believe that this is a matter of standing up for our users," Apple has said in response to Facebook's claims.
Article Link: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple's Privacy Changes are Self-Serving and Anti-Competitive
Interesting, Facebook has 2.7 billion users, Apple iPhone users are about 1 billion roughly.
How many average users will stick to a platform that prevents them using the world's largest social media platform?
Not tech heads but Joe and Suzy Smith?
Myself? I use android and can't stand facebook, I'm not affected.
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
How many average users will stick to a platform that prevents them using the world's largest social media platform?
Not tech heads but Joe and Suzy Smith?
Myself? I use android and can't stand facebook, I'm not affected.
It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Zuckerberg clearly cares about one thing and one thing only: $$$.
He does not care about anyone's right to privacy, about democracy, or about the proliferation of misinformation and hate on his platforms.
Anyone that gets in the way is the enemy that must be destroyed.
Make no mistake, Mark's only interest is to himself.
He does not care about anyone's right to privacy, about democracy, or about the proliferation of misinformation and hate on his platforms.
Anyone that gets in the way is the enemy that must be destroyed.
Make no mistake, Mark's only interest is to himself.
By the same standards Apple banned Parler, Apple should also ban Facebook. Facebook is getting off very lightly.
It's not a universal truth though. The majority of active phones in the UK are iPhones, but iMessage is not really widely used here.
Facebook today shared its earnings for the fourth quarter of 2020, and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's opening remarks were focused on Apple's upcoming anti-tracking privacy changes that will impact the advertising industry and companies like Facebook that rely heavily on online advertising.
As highlighted by The Washington Post, Zuckerberg claimed that Apple is changing its privacy policy not to help people, but to further its own interests.
"Apple has every incentive to use their dominant platform position to interfere with how our apps and other apps work, which they regularly do," said Zuckerberg. "They say they are doing this to help people, but the moves clearly track their competitive interests."
Zuckerberg said that Facebook sees Apple as one of its biggest competitors, claiming that the privacy changes will help Apple services like iMessage and FaceTime that compete with Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.
"iMessage is a key linchpin of their ecosystem," said Zuckerberg. "It comes pre-installed on every iPhone and they preference it with private APIs and permissions, which is why iMessage is the most used messaging service in the U.S."
Zuckerberg also once again said that Apple's changes are going to impact small businesses, which is a claim that Facebook has been leaning on as it campaigns against Apple's planned changes. Facebook has previously published newspaper ads and shared blog posts explaining how Apple's iOS 14 ad-tracking changes will have a "harmful impact on many small businesses that are struggling to stay afloat."
Facebook has previously claimed that Apple's move is "about profit," and that it will leave apps and websites with no choice but to charge subscription fees or add in-app purchases to make ends meet, leading to increased App Store revenue.
Apple is not backing down despite Facebook's complaints and has plans to implement the new tracking rules in the near future. When made a requirement, apps that track usage through a random advertising identifier will need to ask users if they want to share their information for ad tracking purposes.
Advertisers use the random advertising identifier to serve up personalized ads and to track ad campaigns, but the ad industry expects that many people will opt not to share this information.
Apple says that users should be aware of when their data is being collected and shared across other apps and websites, and should have the choice to opt in or opt out. "We believe that this is a matter of standing up for our users," Apple has said in response to Facebook's claims.
Article Link: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Apple's Privacy Changes are Self-Serving and Anti-Competitive
You know when someone is rattled because they start blabbering on about things that make no sense. IMessage?? lol Zuck is losing it.
What world does Zuck live in where people should not be asked whether they want to be tracked by hundreds of companies that they have no idea are tracking them? Where is this world Zuck?
I wouldn't mind sharing my information with Facebook, if I was only sharing my information with the company I was dealing with, the problem I have is that my data then gets sold to 3rd parties who sell my information to others who sell my information to others, and suddenly my personal information is completely out of my control which I resent greatly.
Governments have been very weak and lax about putting a stop to this, so I'm glad this is being forced by Apple.
The only thing I do have reservations about is will Apple abide by its own rules or will it still sit in its priviledged position with unbridled access to all our data but now having it all to itself?!
Governments have been very weak and lax about putting a stop to this, so I'm glad this is being forced by Apple.
The only thing I do have reservations about is will Apple abide by its own rules or will it still sit in its priviledged position with unbridled access to all our data but now having it all to itself?!
How ironic is this!? Ignoring that part however, does Zucker not get it that whether it is in Apples interests or not, people WANT to be given the opportunity to know how they're being tracked and to stop it if they so please, and Apple are giving people that opportunity. I love the fact that Zucker hates this so much.
Apple build services for ppl and give them for free or asks for payment. They finance them from HW or SW profit.
Facebook offer free services but finance them solely from selling user data without they knowing much (many do not bother tbh) and adds misusing those data.
Apple wanna leverage the game. At least ppl know how they are paying for those "free" services.
Was discussing this with few Android users and they do not care it is like someone would be sitting in their livving room and record their activity and them earn money on it. It is free, it is only what they are interested in. And phones cheap.
Facebook offer free services but finance them solely from selling user data without they knowing much (many do not bother tbh) and adds misusing those data.
Apple wanna leverage the game. At least ppl know how they are paying for those "free" services.
Was discussing this with few Android users and they do not care it is like someone would be sitting in their livving room and record their activity and them earn money on it. It is free, it is only what they are interested in. And phones cheap.
Holy cow, that's the angle he decided to go with? Apple is doing this for "profit"? So what reasons would Facebook have to wanting this not to happen. It wouldn't be "profit" would it?
Yeah, Zuckerberg is on the losing side of this argument: "We want to secretly track you to serve you advertisements but the evil corporations won't let us!"
Yeah, Zuckerberg is on the losing side of this argument: "We want to secretly track you to serve you advertisements but the evil corporations won't let us!"
Not this again!!! LOL Bullying kid talking **** about a big kid cuz he couldn't get the lunch money. This time, he actually does it in front of his own parents and the Principal when it happens during earnings call.
There's a clear distinction between iMessage/FaceTime and any other messaging/video apps: Apple's apps show absolutely zero ads. So no, I don't believe Apple implemented the privacy protection suite to further their own interests. I genuinely believe them when they say they are protecting consumers.
FB is one of the most successful bigtech in the World, it has tens of billions of cash and an army of engineers. Nobody stopping them from making their own phone/tablet and ecosystem, which allows them to preinstall FB/instagram/whatsapp and whatever else they please.
And let's be clear about something: Apple is also another bigtech. They don't ask anybody's permissions or opinions on how to run their own company. Mr. Cook and his close circle of talents can certainly outsmart anyone in the World. They will take a reasonable appeal into consideration, but they definitely will not entertain people who go around putting up fullpage newspaper ads talking **** about them.
There's a clear distinction between iMessage/FaceTime and any other messaging/video apps: Apple's apps show absolutely zero ads. So no, I don't believe Apple implemented the privacy protection suite to further their own interests. I genuinely believe them when they say they are protecting consumers.
FB is one of the most successful bigtech in the World, it has tens of billions of cash and an army of engineers. Nobody stopping them from making their own phone/tablet and ecosystem, which allows them to preinstall FB/instagram/whatsapp and whatever else they please.
And let's be clear about something: Apple is also another bigtech. They don't ask anybody's permissions or opinions on how to run their own company. Mr. Cook and his close circle of talents can certainly outsmart anyone in the World. They will take a reasonable appeal into consideration, but they definitely will not entertain people who go around putting up fullpage newspaper ads talking **** about them.
I disagree. That makes privacy a privilege only for those who can afford it. And just how would ads be targeted without tracking you?
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Zuckerberg is correct though, improving privacy is self-serving. It serves Apple and it serves all of Apple’s users - and the rest of the internet when this expands to Android.