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Facebook Claims Apple is Damaging Small Businesses by Collecting Fees From Paid Facebook Events
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So, Apple creates this huge pool of consumers who have a proven record of buying more apps and products than competing app stores, but they’re supposed to just let app developers make money using what Apple created?
If Apple allowed apps to offer in-app purchases with no cut going to Apple, you do realize that EVERY app would offer their apps for “free”, then make all their charges in-app.
Every retailer takes a cut of what they sell in their stores. What Epic is trying to do is eliminate a store’s ability to make money and it will disincentivize Apple and Google to even offer apps through their system. Or maybe it will force them to charge consumers a flat rate per app or per month to access any app. But they’re not going to win these suits.
You mean the same 30% that Google, Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony all charge for their respective app stores?
Well, the fact that Apple prohibits alternative store fronts is part of the problem since that prevents anyone from building a store. And stop with the “build your own platform” BS. Apple and Google duopoly makes that impossible as evidenced by numerous failed attempts from MS, Samsung, Palm, HP etc.
Sounds like this would be more Google's fault, given that they have the larger market share.
Apple and Google are a duopoly, which is just as harmful to consumers as a monopoly.
Sorry, that is not a market by itself, any more than Wal*Mart is a market by itself. Look at the court’s ruling in the Peoplesoft case to understand. In fact, that they could set up their own store on Android and yet are still suing Google shows that what they want is access to the platform’s app stores without having to pay for them.
As for Epic’s contention that this is a problem, it is interesting that they have not sued Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony (one of their investors) for their equivalent behavior.
They can’t eliminate *all* their sources of revenue at once.
Apple cant prevent you from installing a jailbreak. Why should Apple be forced to make their iOS software insecure just because billion dollar foreign interests(Tenecent owns half of Epic/Spotify) want to make an extra nickel? Apple’s current sceme for payments is reasonable and safe and protective of privacy. Yes if you want to collect payments you should have to use in app payments.
Apple could get innovative with this problem by say taking 10% of say something arbitrary like the first $1.5 million for a qualified small business. Anyone above that threshold would maintain the current structure. Small devs stay alive while the giants pay the tax for their success. Takes the wind out of their arguments and puts Apple in a position to better control the narrative on “small developers.”
Facebook's user growth (and the fact that their early demographic is the most valuable to advertisers!) would have made for a hugely valuable company even had the iPhone never existed. Money losing? That's true of most start ups.
Yes. It’s easy to avoid if they want to avoid it. Apple built the infrastructure they get the rewards.
Well, that might be a solution for smaller groups, not for public. You are mixing apples and oranges... I should know that too, I'm a webdeveloper and WordPress contributor 😉
Facebook is not claiming to be the victim but Tim and the executive team thanks you for your blind loyalty.
Lots of things in lots of products aren’t replaceable. Doesn’t mean they should be.
Yes, yes, Facebook only wants to connect people, I know. Mark and his shareholders thank you for your support of Facebook Pay during this brief promotional period.
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This so much. Facebook has no room to talk about anyone. They’re probably the absolute worst social media app and worst offender of abusing peoples private information.
I swear to god whenever a news article has Facebook, Microsoft or Google/Android' it's clear none of you have read it. You just jump on the bashing train as quickly as you can.
Facebook isn't concerned about money it isn't getting. In fact it's currently not taking a cut from users using the feature. This has nothing to do with Facebook but rather it's users. And harp on Facebook all you want, their events is used A LOT, to help people keep events on their calendar and not miss out. I know small businesses that specifically use Facebook events to reach an audience.
Stop with the bashing already and read what the issue actually is. Jesus Christ.
Facebook isn't concerned about money it isn't getting. In fact it's currently not taking a cut from users using the feature. This has nothing to do with Facebook but rather it's users. And harp on Facebook all you want, their events is used A LOT, to help people keep events on their calendar and not miss out. I know small businesses that specifically use Facebook events to reach an audience.
Stop with the bashing already and read what the issue actually is. Jesus Christ.
Then why does Apple’s ’sceme’ only apply to digital goods? I can buy all kinds of stuff from Amazon, Target, Kohl’s etc. via their apps and I’m not using Apple’s in-app payment system. Is that not secure? If not why does Apple allow it?
What Apple servers are they using? Once Facebook is downloaded to your phone what service is Apple providing (outside of app updates)?
has always been the villain. Overpriced. Closed Systems. Can‘t easily repair. Control freak. Don’t innovate. If you don’t like them stop buying their product, using their services, or creating apps for their system. You can say these companies don’t have a choice, but they do. There are Android only apps. Lots of software that doesn’t work on Mac.
Look at video game exclusives. If there is a Xbox only game, then I just need to buy a Xbox to play it. Microsoft gets a cut. Is that antitrust? No.
literally has changed the world we live in. iTunes. iPod, iPhone, iPad.... were they first? No, but they were and still are the best. Let us side load apps. But, you need to sign off that you’re then forfeiting any further support from Apple. So if your crap breaks or information is stolen, good luck. They may even restrict you from certain services, like iMessage Or iCloud storage.
Look at video game exclusives. If there is a Xbox only game, then I just need to buy a Xbox to play it. Microsoft gets a cut. Is that antitrust? No.
literally has changed the world we live in. iTunes. iPod, iPhone, iPad.... were they first? No, but they were and still are the best. Let us side load apps. But, you need to sign off that you’re then forfeiting any further support from Apple. So if your crap breaks or information is stolen, good luck. They may even restrict you from certain services, like iMessage Or iCloud storage.