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Imagine you login with facebook to put a comment here :) But this news put a smile on my face today
 
Have you watched The Social Dilemma together? If not, I suggest you give that a try. It shows how this platform goes beyond creepiness to manipulation and coercion. Good luck!
Oooh, that's a fantastic idea. It was recommended a while back, but I forgot about it. Now if I can just keep her from falling asleep during movies!
 
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Just delete the app. Your privacy and battery will thank you. And once you don’t get the red badges and notifications, you’ll slowly forget about FB. Suddenly it will be one month without opening the sewer that is the FB news feed. Hurray, you’re now cured.
 
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Reddit? Super easy to avoid and I never go there unless some search takes me there. Google should be right behind facebook, if not number one. Twitter is the absolute sewer of the Internet, with Facebook a close second.
100% agree about Twitter. Beyond belief how that platform still exists
Reddit? Really? Why so?
because of reddits anonymous down voting , I avoid the entire place due to that
 
Yet nearly 3bn people use it every month. Let that sink in for a minute, that is approximately 2,800,000,000 people, 35% of the worlds population - every month.

For all Apple's marketing about privacy, forum frothings about people and their data being the product, even the acceptance that Facebook/Meta really is a cancer on society, it is clear that the majority of internet users do not care. :(

You are right and wrong. Right because they don't care, wrong that we should not continue to advocate for privacy. I like to think of internet privacy like smoking, a lot of people are doing it and continue to do it but as long as we fight back and vilify it we have succeeded.

In the smoking world, they are banned from advertising, have to put a life threat warning on the box, banned from all in doors, children and adults are warned about it via many campaigns, and many people have quit. The same should be done for online privacy, imagine if no one advocated for quitting smoking, cigarettes might be sold to 9 year olds in colourful wrappings.

So we should spread awareness and continue the fight.

Jennicam? I'd forgotten about that.

Jennicam? I'd forgotten about that.

wow , you even remember the name.
 
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Thanks to Facebook my parents marriage was irrevocably damaged as an unknown affair came out of the woodwork , my poor mother is still devastated and I put the blame squarely on Facebook and it’s messenger service etc ...
Uh, that’s not on Facebook. That’s on the person who had the affair.
 
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So long as they allow cults to continue growing on their site...
The problem is your definition of cult and mine may be different. And there sometimes is more than 2 sides, there can be 3, 4, or 5 different positions. Which are cults, and which are correct- or at least closer to correct?
 
The problem is your definition of cult and mine may be different. And there sometimes is more than 2 sides, there can be 3, 4, or 5 different positions. Which are cults, and which are correct- or at least closer to correct?
I’m not talking about normal argumentation. I’m talking about the echo-chambers of bizarre and extreme ideologies. There are some pretty clear indicators of cult-like goings on in some parts of Reddit. Look at the incel and PUA groups.

Actually, don’t. They’re creepy as hell.
 
I’m not talking about normal argumentation. I’m talking about the echo-chambers of bizarre and extreme ideologies. There are some pretty clear indicators of cult-like goings on in some parts of Reddit. Look at the incel and PUA groups.

Actually, don’t. They’re creepy as hell.
I won’t go to the ones that you mentioned, and I wouldn’t even if you hadn‘t mentioned them. But terms like “echo chamber” are used by most sides when there is a disagreement, and the site I use to justify my position may be the site that you think proves I believe in a cult.

I believe that there are ways of verifying sources…..but there are people that would disagree with my criteria. And as long as no one has to really prove that the information from any source was gathered properly then we are nothing more than a nation of 350 million individual “experts” in this country who happen to disagree with a lot of the other 349,999,999 so called experts.
 
I won’t go to the ones that you mentioned, and I wouldn’t even if you hadn‘t mentioned them. But terms like “echo chamber” are used by most sides when there is a disagreement, and the site I use to justify my position may be the site that you think proves I believe in a cult.

I believe that there are ways of verifying sources…..but there are people that would disagree with my criteria. And as long as no one has to really prove that the information from any source was gathered properly then we are nothing more than a nation of 350 million individual “experts” in this country who happen to disagree with a lot of the other 349,999,999 so called experts.
I’m not fond of “both sides” notions. Look up “signs you’re in a cult”. The list of signs is telling for the groups I mentioned, among others. These are judgments based on actual human cultural/behavioral study and isn’t about mere disagreements between people with differing ideologies.
 
I’m not fond of “both sides” notions. Look up “signs you’re in a cult”. The list of signs is telling for the groups I mentioned, among others. These are judgments based on actual human cultural/behavioral study and isn’t about mere disagreements between people with
Most situations are not a physically real “both sides”, but when a side doesn’t have reproduceable evidence and/or refuses to show the data and methodology you frequently get claims of “both sides are” lying…wrong…. distorting the evidence or whatever even if both sides aren’t. And those claims get echoed by some of the media intentionally and by others because they don’t want to irritate customers, because most US news is tied to a corporation that is also trying to sell something.
 
Take a Statistics course and you might understand why a sample of 1000 people is perfectly valid and has a high probability for reasonable accuracy. Assuming they did their sampling correctly.
I took a statistic class in the early 2000's. Never once did my professor acknowledge that surveying 1,000 people would be sufficient enough to represent an entire population (unless that population was very small). We used equations and complex formulas. We repeated our findings over and over again and calculated margins of error. We actually used math. I guess things have changed today or we were doing something wrong.
 
You are right and wrong. Right because they don't care, wrong that we should not continue to advocate for privacy. I like to think of internet privacy like smoking, a lot of people are doing it and continue to do it but as long as we fight back and vilify it we have succeeded.

In the smoking world, they are banned from advertising, have to put a life threat warning on the box, banned from all in doors, children and adults are warned about it via many campaigns, and many people have quit. The same should be done for online privacy, imagine if no one advocated for quitting smoking, cigarettes might be sold to 9 year olds in colourful wrappings.

So we should spread awareness and continue the fight.
I hate to be so toxically pessimistic, but I believe we have already lost.

To continue your analogy on smoking, I’d like to point to Japan. In other countries there was no incentive for the government to promote smoking, in fact healthcare systems incentivized smoking being reduced or eliminated.

Japan’s government held a monopoly on smoking, and delayed efforts to reduce smoking because of the monetary incentive. They’ve had the lowest drop in smoking because of this.

Bringing this back to internet privacy, there’s no incentive for governments or corporations of the world to incentivize privacy. It’s only to their benefit if the population gives up as much information as possible.

Tracking and spying have become normalized and accepted already.
 
Which country? Which Nobel prizes? What lies? Your vague complaint is vague.
You are right and I apologize for that. I was vague because I fear the nazi censorship that some coward apply. If you want to talk about I can answer you on private.
 
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