Because, genius, what makes iOS great is that it is held o a consistent standard. Some things gotta give, but are made up for by the ecosystem.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Facebook in Talks With Apple to Bring 'Home' to iPhone
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Because, genius, what makes iOS great is that it is held o a consistent standard. Some things gotta give, but are made up for by the ecosystem.
Sure it starts out as convenient for Facebook fans and regular users. But let's be honest it's another way for them to expand their hold on you and find ways to make money off you. Terms and conditions about location data is not always set in stone. They revise these things and bury the changes under thousands of words, without you even realising changes that you didn't even know was there.
I know what launchers are. I have an android phone. Like you said they don't exist on iOS. So what exactly will facebook home be like for iOS? Will iOS have to create launchers in order to provide the same functionality just for Facebook? They're getting too arrogant if they think the OS can be redesigned to suit them. It's not their phone. People can already see the horrific possibilities with this thing on iOS. Heck people already saw how terrible it is on Android. A majority of the people don't even want it on android. Facebook needs Apple more than the reverse in order for this abomination to pick up.
Me and other users have made our choice. We don't want it. Apple most likely will not want it. A majority of android users also don't want it. Why attempt to shove a product to consumers that they don't want.
The LocK screen is arguably the most valuable real estate on your phone.
Its already the focus of your attention for quick trusted information updates. (Not so much for iOS unless you JB but there are Notifications)
It's prime real estate for running ads.
They could be more profitable than Google if they could start to engage people with Ads there.
Imagine if they could get FBH on even 10% of Android phones and iOS phones, that would be one of the largest Ad Distribution networks ever; Dwarfing most print circulations or even the Super Bowl Audience. Imagine what an Ad on that network would be worth.
FB could be bigger than Google. It's interesting how Eric Schmidt says Google won't Ban it. They must be planning to copy whatever FBH achieves with Google+.
Its already the focus of your attention for quick trusted information updates. (Not so much for iOS unless you JB but there are Notifications)
It's prime real estate for running ads.
They could be more profitable than Google if they could start to engage people with Ads there.
Imagine if they could get FBH on even 10% of Android phones and iOS phones, that would be one of the largest Ad Distribution networks ever; Dwarfing most print circulations or even the Super Bowl Audience. Imagine what an Ad on that network would be worth.
FB could be bigger than Google. It's interesting how Eric Schmidt says Google won't Ban it. They must be planning to copy whatever FBH achieves with Google+.
Fair points, I suppose. We'll have to agree to disagree. I like it, it's a nice-to-have on my Lockscreen - it looks nice, is interesting, and works great with notifications. I can't fault it. I'd stress again that I'm not using it 24/7 - it's not quite up to standard as a complete Nova Launcher replacement yet. This is the reason for the majority of poor reviews in the Play Store - as a Launcher, it offers pretty poor functionality.
One thing I'd like to point out, however, is that they are most certainly not forcing it upon anyone. It's freely available for anyone who decides to use it. There's no forcing involved.
You don't have to run it as your Lockscreen. Homescreen is also an option.
Still, your point is rendered irrelevant when it comes to Facebook Home. The minute they put ads on there is the minute that users of it can decide for themselves if they still want to keep it or not. If not, just 3 taps to turn it straight off.
You, and most Apple fans here, seem to overlook this little thing called "choice".
Erm, that's because as said Apple doesn't like giving you choice, why do you think we only have ONE iPhone screen size?
If Apple gave you the option of a simple install or not that would be fine so long as iOS remained TOTALLY untouched by Facebook as it does now, but I can't see that, this is too much of an integration IMO.
Actually to be honest I can only see Apple telling FB no chance in hell purely because the integration will be far too in depth.
Sorry I may be a bit biased as IMO Facebook is pretty much the worst corporation on the planet because of the laughable way it treats your security and sells all your details, any details no matter what your security settings are. I don't remember Apple being the subject of endless comments from world regulators for is incredibly constant security settings changes and cavalier attitude to data protection?
As I always say, Zuckerberg would sell your very soul if he could get it for sheer profit.
Facebook is definitely not the worst corporation in the world. Have you heard of oil companies that are destroying the planet in irreparable ways? How about drug cartels? Cigarette companies? Smoking can give you cancer. Facebook, while definitely not perfect and has so much to improve on, can not possibly be the worst corporation in the world. A view like that is just naive.
That being said, I hope Apple doesn't go brain dead like Google has. I do not want Facebook as my "operating system" or "launcher" on any of my devices. People use smartphones for work and other purposes besides social networking. Like BlackBerrys many years ago. As much as I see how Facebook can be useful (it's not ALL bad) on a smartphone, I and probably many others do not want it by default.
Well firstly I am entitled to my OWN opinion thanks and it is not naive, you just don't agree with it so you just want to call me naive. And I never heard of a corporation drug cartel? And yes I would class Facebook as worst then any oil company which hasn't damaged the world beyond repair, all of mankind has contributed to global warming!
And also Google aren't brain dead, they have always and like to offer their customers a choice, something Apple doesn't. It's up to you if you install the FB interface, it's not forced upon you in anyway shape or form. How are they brain dead just to offer customers choice? Their are loads of customisation options for Android, FB is just one.
If it was offered on Apple, because of the way they do not offer choice, would it be so much of a choice to the customer?
I don't have that account for zuckerborgs money scam anymore. Seeing people write boring things and a*s*licking each others photos doesn't appeal to me. I prefer the real world. Whatever happened to writing letters or telephone calls 
On topic, this software will not take off, early feedback shows it's going to be a flop. Personally I can't see Apple letting anybody take over iOS in that way. If they do, then I shall stick with iOS 6
On topic, this software will not take off, early feedback shows it's going to be a flop. Personally I can't see Apple letting anybody take over iOS in that way. If they do, then I shall stick with iOS 6
No one said you can't express your opinion. But you expressed in a public manner that is subject to other's scrutiny.
Nothing is forced upon you. You don't want an iPhone? Don't buy it. Don't want an Android? Don't buy one. Don't want a phone? Don't buy it. No one is forcing you. Your peers? Maybe. More is not always better. Less is not always better. The universality and shallowness of your thoughts is troubling. Apple does offer choice. There are two different colors and three different capacities. Also, there are 3 variants. Apple just doesn't offer the choice YOU want. For me? I like the white iPhone 5 32GB. But I had the option to go with black 16GB, white 64GB or God forbid a BlackBerry, Android, Windows Phone 8, etc. This is capitalism. You always have choices.
Last edited:
Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. It seemed like you said it would be easy to port to iOS since it's built in QC because iOS can run QC projects.
Although I do not use Facebook, the greater majority of people seem to. Apple is interested in anything that will make them more money. That's the danger in this for those of us who don't want facebook. Apple being a company that doesn't' allow choices might embed it into iOS in such a way it becomes a bit part the OS. But who knows, Apple is likely to do anything these days.
I'm sitting here using my MacBook Pro running through my 27" iMac, with an iPhone 4 to my left, a Samsung S3 next to it, and an iPad 2 on the right. Evidently, I'm a fan of Apple products. However, I've got the open-mind to acknowledge that Android is ahead of the game right now, and services/tools like Facebook Home (not specifically FB Home, just similar) really do make the difference. It's a shame to see such public closed-mindedness.
Facebook Home does not take over your phone. You choose to use Facebook Home as a launcher, just as you might choose Apex, or Nova. Facebook Home simply has...well...better Facebook integration.
Last edited:
The funny thing is... we're interacting right now on an online forum... instead of meeting face-to-face at a Mac user's group.
You're right though... there will always be some people who don't have an active social life.
But many pictures I see on Facebook are of groups of people... out somewhere... doing something together. The activity comes first... the posting on Facebook comes second.
I don't think there are many people who would rather sit at home and look at pictures of a concert... instead of actually going to the concert.
woah woah woah lets hang on here shall we? Firstly perhaps I should scrutinise your comment linking drug cartels as corporations and your claim oil company's are permanently damaging the planet, do you have any proof for those claims? Because if it's up for public scrutiny....
And the next thing, you ARE forced to use Apple products, why? Simple, the endless amount of money spent on apps that you CANNOT play on any other platform! Forgot that one didn't you? So go on, if you hate Face Book like I, and i must say many others, do, and we have spent a fair amount of money on apps, then Apple forces Face Book integration into iOS just what is your solution?
As I stated, Apple do NOT give you a choice, so you would either have to never update your iOS or simply write off all the apps and money you spent on them, just because of a dumb decision by Apple if they ever did put FB Home into iOS.
----------
Over react much? I'm sorry I didn't realise I had mentioned the global problems the human race has in my comment?
If you want to discuss what's wrong with the world and political views then go to another thread, this is a thread about Facebook and my comment was relevant and it's a bit pathetic to start replying to me with the 'third world problems' argument just because I stated Face Book was the worst CORPORATION on the planet. Not country or geographical locations on the planet but a CORPORATION!
Last edited:
From the sound of it, it would have eventually come down to Ive or Forstall leaving, and I'd bet anything that Ive would win.
Please don't make this preloaded.
I really don't need that much facebook integration in my life.
----------
Agreed. Embeding this in the OS would be a real issue for me since I don't use facebook.
I really don't need that much facebook integration in my life.
----------
Agreed. Embeding this in the OS would be a real issue for me since I don't use facebook.
You can't possibly be this ignorant to believe that burning fossil fuels is completely harmless and does not irreparably damage the environment? I'm not getting into an argument about the degree or severity of damage that it causes. Justifying with a view that "hey we all have done damage to the environment so it doesn't matter" is again, naive, ignorant and seriously flawed thinking.
Wait... no one is forcing you to buy those apps in the first place. That is like paying for membership at one gym and saying that gym is forcing you to go and you can't go to another gym without buying another membership. No one forced you to pay for the membership in the first place. You knew fully well that buying membership for 24/7 Fitness gyms doesn't give you access to Planet Fitness gyms. Just like you knew fully well that buying an app for iOS doesn't give you a complimentary copy/license to the same app on Android or Windows Phone. I didn't forget anything. I remembered to bring my intellect and common sense. You forgot yours. Before you buy anything, you have the option to ask if the app or software is a cross-platform license or not. No one forced you to buy anything. But there are plenty of people advertising their products.
I suppose with your, for lack of a better word, "logic", you can apply this to Xbox, PS3, Wii and pretty much any game system in the world. A PS3 game won't work on an Xbox. That must mean Sony is forcing you to buy their stuff right? Seriously, education in the US is getting worse and worse.
I don't hate Facebook. I personally don't like it or prefer it or want it on my devices in the manner that Facebook home provides. As a standalone app? Sure. I use Facebook. I see why it's useful. I'm not going to be stupid and pretend that just because I don't like something that it must be the worst corporation in the world. Some people love it. Some people don't. It's not something universally illegal like killing people or robbing banks so I don't care if it exists.
Btw, your entire argument rests on the assumption that Apple is going to approve of this decision. The chances are very slim (since nothing is impossible, just like the world is not completely rid of ignorance). And if they do, no one is forcing you to update. Just like if some car maker introduced a new 2014 version of some car. If you hate it, don't buy it. Your pre-2014 version still works right? It's not automatically disabled or something. Sure you don't get the newest bells and whistles. But when you paid for it, those weren't promised at the time. I get your point that if Apple DOES allow this, you have a strong motivation to switch platforms but probably isn't financially viable due to the initial investment. But you know what? Life is unfair. There are worse things than this. If you're this upset about something that against all odds won't happen. you should seriously reconsider your life.