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Facebook in Talks With Apple to Bring 'Home' to iPhone
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MR needs to update the front page:
http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2013...out-porting-home-to-iphone-and-windows-phone/
Update: According to a source inside Facebook familiar with the discussions, the social networking company is not in talks with Apple or Microsoft, contrary to what Bloomberg has reported earlier. Weve been told that while the company has good relationships with both Apple and Microsoft, right now no discussions have taken place to bring Home to those platforms.
http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2013...out-porting-home-to-iphone-and-windows-phone/
Update: According to a source inside Facebook familiar with the discussions, the social networking company is not in talks with Apple or Microsoft, contrary to what Bloomberg has reported earlier. Weve been told that while the company has good relationships with both Apple and Microsoft, right now no discussions have taken place to bring Home to those platforms.
FB has become a bloated messy POS over the past 2 years. Google + is a much better social and productive experience. Its just a shame that the majority of people dont use it. I dont think a Facebook home for iPhone would do anyone any favours. The problem is with iOS. Its the thing that needs a radical overhaul. Dated, longwinded software thats overall boring to use. I really hope Sir Jonny Ive gets it in order. The iOS 7 mock up from a few weeks back is exactly the thing thats needed. Lets hope it becomes a reality.
Um, nope. And the biggest reason is there is nothing Apple would identify that would lead them to that conclusion.
yeah no thanks, keep it an app, it would be great if you could move different apps to the springboard, lock screen etc. Panic is on to something with their app.
http://panic.com/statusboard/
http://panic.com/statusboard/
I meant some other online service could come along.
Do you really think Facebook is a replacement for real life?
Of course not. But you can take pictures of your adventures in real life and put them on Facebook. Or chat with someone on Facebook Messenger. Facebook was never supposed to be a substitute for going out and doing something.
And this isn't a new concept either. People used to chat online with AIM... post photos to Webshots or Flickr... and organize events with E-Vite.
It turns out that this internet thing wasn't a fad after all.
Now you can do all those tasks in one place... Facebook.
Twitter is cool... but I never feel like I get a great experience from it. Twitter's main thing is sending tiny bits of information... and maybe a link or two. If you visit someone's Twitter page... you see is a list of their tweets... and maybe a few photos and videos.
But a Facebook page is a lot more in-depth.
I wouldn't say Twitter and Facebook are interchangable services.
As for Google+... I use it to follow some photographers... that's about it. And I rarely check it.
I'm still getting friend requests on Facebook today... but I can't remember the last time someone "Circled" me on Google+
Some other online service could come along and steal Facebook's thunder... but it's been 9 years already.
Anything's possible... but I guess we'll have to wait a little longer to see.
So would you say it's better to NOT be on Facebook at all?
You need to put your business in front of as many people as possible. It doesn't cost anything anyway.
I run a few brand pages too... and I don't think twice about posting something on Facebook.
If I update the website... someone has to make the conscious decision to go visit the website.
But if I post something on Facebook... it gets put in their News Feed. Push Marketing
Yeah everyone hates ads... but these companies have to make money somehow.
Like I said... there's been plenty of time to build a better service. Who's left? Maybe Amazon should throw their hat into the ring
I know... was just a cheeky remark on the side.
I think it disturbs me when people do consider it a real alternative to real life... sitting in doors all day, etc, etc.Do you really think Facebook is a replacement for real life?
Of course not. But you can take pictures of your adventures in real life and put them on Facebook. Or chat with someone on Facebook Messenger. Facebook was never supposed to be a substitute for going out and doing something.
And this isn't a new concept either. People used to chat online with AIM... post photos to Webshots or Flickr... and organize events with E-Vite.
It turns out that this internet thing wasn't a fad after all.
Now you can do all those tasks in one place... Facebook.
I agree instant photo albums, chat, e-vites but I think people are and will continue to grow out of it. It takes the realness out of life, oh lets log on, do this, do that. What happened to the personal approach? I feel that's where Facebook now falls apart. When it became the thing it was personal, now it's getting a bit corporate and business like.
Of course companies need to make money but maybe the strategy is wrong. That said I can't come up with better, mainly because I can't be bothered to really consider a business strategy for Facebook.
I always found good follower base, following and keeping it interacting delivers the best result - that's kind of where my using it 'right' came from. It's less formatted than Facebook in respect of the way it let's you do what you want, more it's what you make of it.
Pro/Con, years ahead will tell.
From a personal perspective I'd rather not be, but for some insane reason I have 20 people which won't let me hear the end of it if I'm not on there (but even they moan about it half the time). Main picture and that's it. Twitter's my zone.
From a business perspective it's true, it's better to be there and not; but as I know it delivers less of a result analytically I don't care for it so much.
Not sold on the Amazon suggestion! Maybe MacRumors can start off FaceRumours - the 13 year olds would love it.Like I said... there's been plenty of time to build a better service. Who's left? Maybe Amazon should throw their hat into the ring
Hear that guys? Want Facebook phone? Then LEAVE.
Have fun with that, and we'll see you in a couple years when you're contract's up and you've graduated high school.
Civility in discourse is just something that not everyone either wants or knows how to promote, it's very sad. I've certainly noticed it on MacRumors - not sure it's specific to this site or it's a more general problem associated with social networking that since you can't see the person you're talking to, respect and manners are something that some feel are not required.
I agree with you about FaceBook, and I especially like the term "celebrity effect" and agree with that concept completely. I like FaceBook, it provides me with a way to keep in touch with friends and family around the world (I'm an expat and a lot of my family and friends are in the US), so for me FaceBook is great, but as you say, a lot of the posts are not very interesting to say the least. Despite my liking FaceBook, the last thing I want or need is easier access to it.
I'm already convinced that if you were to approach a random woman on the street pushing her baby in a stroller while using her phone and demand she give up either her baby or her phone, she'd throw her baby at you to distract you so she could run away with the real possession of hers that she considers precious (her phone) - something like 'Home' appeals to people like that I think.
haha, that is sad, but probably true! I agree concerning everything else you've said. It's quite disappointing. I come here and post with a genuine interest in hearing what others have to say. But things like this make it less enjoyable.
FB is certainly useful for keeping in touch with friends and colleagues I've met overseas, since these people are harder to keep up with via conventional methods like the phone. But I think Home overdoes it in a bad way. I think the Messages app is perfect for such things.
I used to be in that "3rd party launcher" camp when I had my Androids. And I will admit, it was fun for a bit. But after a while you realize just how much disconnect there is between all these add-ons and 3rd party installs and how much eventually it just becomes a drain on system resources.
I loathe people that blindly stick up for the iPhone w/ a closed mind but I can say with certainty that the closed system on the iPhone is one of the best experiences I've come across. No one meddling unnecessarily with "add-ons" is quite reassuring that my phone's interface will function perfectly day-to-day.
Yes, I jailbreak to "tweak" but that only goes so far - nothing as "other-worldly" like this Facebook integration.
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True.
They might have shown the whole thing to Apple but no way would it go beyond that.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Forstall had history with Jobs yes. But given the way Jobs went holy terror over the Mobile Me launch and that was a supplemental feature how do you think he would have reacted to the buggy iOS 6 release, particularly the bugs that bricked wifi in a significant number of phones and cost consumers hundreds and thousands in cell data usage fees while telling them they were on wifi. AND the whole Maps thing which might have been under Forstall's department in terms of the iOS software and data vetting.
If Forstall performed, or underperformed, under Jobs the same then his history with the boss might not have saved him. Jobs might put up with an employee that is an egotistical ass if the guy gets the job done. But if the guy isn't doing it and folks that were are leaving to get away from the ass, well Jobs might have kicked his 'friend' to the curb
NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It would be THE worst thing to EVER happen to iOS, it would be worst then iOS looking the same in 10 years time as it does now! Friggin hate Facebook.
Social messaging is an important aspect of digital life. If it wasn't, Apple wouldn't have integrated Twitter and Facebook. Apple do not live in isolation, and they do have to compete and they DO respond to the competition, as we've seen regularly. So, if Facebook Home is popular, Apple will respond.
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When it comes to things like this, choice is not the Apple way. They wouldn't want the UI controlled by a company they don't control. Same reason they gave the carriers little to no say in the iPhone design etc
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Tim's smart enough not to blow up bridges. So he had a talk with them. One that probably ended with a big Sam Jackson "Hell no". A detail Facebook isn't about to tell cause it makes them look bad.
Which is the same move Steve might have done as he wouldn't want the blogs blowing up about how Apple are jerks and refused a chat